History says, BYE BYE Big Tuna!
by NJDolphan68 on Oct 2, 2009 9:37 AM EDT
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Ok, so I'm depressed over our 0-3 start, mostly because we could be 3-0. We can compete with anyone and IMO, even with Henne, can be a playoff team. I'm pissed that we have no legit "playmakers" and I'm pissed things haven't gone our way. What pisses me off most of all are quitters,,,and I'm watching closely.... We still have guys who remember 1-15 and they know what it takes each and every week. When the going gets rough we'll see who packs their bags.
Now,.. we have a lot of young talent and tons of upside..... We also have Bill Parcells... and you would think that would be one of the few resounding bright spots during a difficult season? However, I have become very leary and very concerned.
If you want to predict the future, historical models may be your best tools....
Let's take a look at the Big Tuna's unspoken past...
Personal: Goes to Colgate, Phillies recruit him, father says no to pro sports, so he quits Colgate and goes to Witchita. There he plays LB and gets drafted by the Lions but is released before the season. Quits pro-football and pursues coaching.
College Career: He coached at 8 schools in 14 years... not much loyalty there, averaging less than 2 years at each institute. But, college is ruthless and sometimes the only way to move ahead is to move on, understood. But 8 changes? Indecision at its finest if you ask me.
He had some success at FSU, talent diminishes, and he quits for Vandy. Takes Vandy to Bowl game against Texas Tech, looses, quits and jumps ship to Texas Tech the next year WTF?- ONly HC job at Air Force goes 3-8, quits and leaves for the NFL.
Pro Career:
Giants: 1979 accepts job as D-Coordinator then turns around and resigns. WTF?
Pats: A year later wants back in the league and is offered the LB coach job with the Pats in 1980
Giants: 1981 Is re-offered the Giants job, quits with Pats and accepts...
1983 after one full year as D-coordinator, succeeds Ray Perkins, who suddenly leaves, as Head Coach
* He benches Simms and gets burned for it with a terrible season behind Jay Breuner
1984-1985 committs to Simms. Giants emerge with good drafts. Simms had a poor year in 1985 and Bill likely lost interest in his development.
1986 Superbowl! but strangely tried to leave for Atlanta after the season. The League had blocked the move. Interestingly, and despite going 14-2, Simms had another subpar year. Atlanta had the #2 pick of the draft and a young team.
1987-1989 Giants continue as contenders, Simms improves.
1990 Superbowl! Simms is injured late in season. Jeff Hostetler closes the deal
* Parcells honored his contract and resigned after the superbowl. No trust in Hostetler? (Giants collapsed in 1991 and 1992 until Dan Reeves revives them in1993)
BUccs: 1992 Parcells agrees to be Buccs HC, then backs out! WTF? Testaverde was coming into his own.
Pats: 1993: Accepts HC job- inherits rookie Drew Bledose
1994-1995: Pats steadily improve
1996: Superbowl Loss! Bledsoe has poor game with 4 picks.
* Parcells argues with Kraft over personel/draft decisions and resigns again. Lost confidence in Bledsoe? (From 1997 to 2000 the Pats get worse and worse until Belichick revives them in 2001)
Jets: 1997: Bill fights out of a contract and quits the Pats. Jets recruit him and the program rebounds with vet Neil ODonnell
1998: Bill brings in Testaverde, Jets reach AFC Championship game!
1999: Jets loose Testaverde and go 8-8
* Parcells retires yet again ! No faith in continuing with Ray Lucas...(Jets get Testaverde back in 2000 and the franchise rides a rollercoaster with Herm Edwards)
Cowboys: 2003: Jerry Jones lures Bill to Dallas, makes playoffs for 1st time in 4 years under Quincy Carter
2004: Parcells favorite Carter is released for drug use and he recruits Testaverde with no luck
2005: Parcells tries with Drew Bledsoe, still no luck
2006: Bledsoe is replaced by Romo who lets Bill down in the playoffs.
* Parcells retires again!!! No faith in ROmo. (Romo turns out to be the real deal and Dallas has immediate success)
DOlphins: 2007: Bill chooses Miami over Atlanta to run team operations, Miami goes 1-15
2008: Bill gets his man in Pennington and wins the AFC East. Greatest turn-around ever!!!!
2009: Pennington is lost for the year.................................
Is it me, or is there a distinct pattern here? All the way back to when he was enrolled at Colgate, it always seems as though when the going gets rough, Bill walks . With each franchise it seems clear that each time he bailed is when his QB situation got shaky.
Well here we go again.... just don't be shocked if Bill walks on us after the season.
Maybe this analysis is unfair and it appears I'm labeling Bill a quitter, however history doesn't lie. I don't think Bill is a "quitter" per se, but I do think that if the situation does not benefit him, he'd rather excerise his right to be somewhere else. Fortunately for him, he's always had another opportunity. He is a great coach and a wonderful evaluator of talent and motivator of young men. He has helped the Dolphins immensly in only 2 years, however we need to be prepared for life after Bill, because it looks like it's coming sooner than later.
Everywhere Bill has been, the teams have faltered once he has departed. You would think that the teams' collapses would be directly related to Bill's departure, however it appears that he quits when his teams show concrete signs of disruption and potential failure. This is even evident through his college career, eventhough he was not the HC; Bill seems to know when to leave. The only notable mistake is when he abandoned Tony Romo and the Boys.
Now we'll see how he really feels about Henne and what he's helped build in South Florida.
Don't overlook the bright spots,,,,two in particular....!!!!!
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I think he stays until 2010 and by the time he leaves...
I think we’re a top 5 team in the AFC…
It's better to keep your mouth shut and make people think your dumb, then to open it and remove all doubt..
GREAT PIC at the end
much appr
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
yea, nice pic
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If Henne is a failure, Parcells is gone
perhaps even before the end of this year. If he Henne is the answer, Parcells stays for 2 more years. Here comes a statement that will really piss people off: Parcells is a guy who makes a team competitive. He is NOT a guy that makes teams Superbowl Champions! As a coach, he is one of the best. As a GM, which he was with the Jets, Cowboys, and Phins, average at best.
I have said it before on this site: A Parcells led team has not won a playoff game in 10 years (and he has been involved with teams for 7 of those years). That is a long time!
One of the best things that could happen to the phins might be for Parcells to leave.
That is an unpopular statement...!
But YES it has some merit… Parcell’s reputation as a “coach” is way ahead of him…..
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight"
Lyle Alzado
08-09 No Award Winner
Interesting summary of Parcells' career
He turns crap into gold and then leaves before whatever he’s built up comes crashing down.
As a New England fan, it’s hard not to like the guy even considering the way he bailed out on the team the week before the Super Bowl (what, he couldn’t wait ONE WEEK to announce his resignation?) Parcells brought immediate legitimacy to an organization that meant well but couldn’t get out of its own way enough to do anything consistently right.
With him in Miami, it’s different because he’s not the head coach. His guiding presence is felt throughout the organization, but he doesn’t have the same kind of player-problems, sideline, game-planning type of pressure and that might lead him to stay longer here than his other gigs. Plus he knows he can leave when he wants to, without the scheming and subterfuge, and he has a good relationship with the ownership. He likes Miami and being on the East Coast. The guy has to work around football, where else would he go?
Keep the faith!
he'll stay until we win the SB
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WATCH THIS
The RB must be a track star
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Modz5_ylk-w&NR=1
OFFENSE- Protect the Quaterback at all costs
DEFFENSE- Get to the Quaterback at all costs
"if something goes bad, I did it. If something goes semi-good, we did it. If something goes good, you did it. Thats all you need to do for guys to win football games for you."- Unknown
OMG
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exactly
OFFENSE- Protect the Quaterback at all costs
DEFFENSE- Get to the Quaterback at all costs
"if something goes bad, I did it. If something goes semi-good, we did it. If something goes good, you did it. Thats all you need to do for guys to win football games for you."- Unknown
pretty cool hurdle but...
then I saw this link next to it. Marvin Harrison amazing catch – pass over the wrong shoulder, he twists and knocks it in the air so he can grab it and still manages to drag both feet inbounds as he falls to get the TD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLGIxMaca9o&feature=related
Why can’t we get him down here?
The catch was awesome but the best part of that video was when he spiked the
ball in to the chin of the Pat player. That was awesome. I could watch that over and over.
lol yea that was the best part
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I want a clip of just that to watch first thing every morning.
What a great way to start each and every day.
by texascowpunk on Oct 2, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
yea
“ok, i ate my cornflakes, brushed by teeth, made the bed, and watched some guy on the pats get owned. Ready for work!” awesome
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Exactly!
See we need a game like that from Ginn. One where we are blowing out the Pats and he spikes a TD into the chest of a defended. Since we are so far ahead I wont care that he will get 15yrs for unsportsman like behavior. Thats what he needs to fix his image around here. Then he would be a hero!
by texascowpunk on Oct 2, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
yea, that would change the attitude twords him quickly
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P.S.
I think Parcells stays until we have some positive signs of a turnaround, at least through this season and the next.
I hope hes right but Parcells is know to change his mind now and then!
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
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