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5 Reasons why we won, and 5 Reasons we should have lost.....

After watching an exciting game that, that seems to be a regular occurrence when the Phins and Jets meet on Monday night, I thought I'd highlight the 5 reasons we were able to pull out the victory.  As well as highlight the 5 reasons why we should have lost the game.

 

Why We Won.....

1.  Offensive Line:  Our offensive line really stepped up in last night's game, and started showing why they were worth every penny we spent on them.  They continually opened holes in the running game, and gave Henne the time in the pocket to find the open receiver.  Rex Ryan is known for throwing everything but the kitchen sink at opposing offenses with his exotic blitz packages, and our OL did a tremendous job picking those blitzes up.  They were the real key that allowed Henne to become comfortable in the pocket and go through his reads at his own pace.

 

2.  Chad Henne:  Have we found the next Marino?  I'm not ready to annoint him the second coming yet, but if he continues to progress like he has so far, for the rest of the season......I just might start to think about it.  Early in the game, I was starting to worry CP10 might have had too much influence on our young QB after he continually check downed to RBs and TEs too quickly.  But after watching the game again, I realized he was still uncomfortable staying in the pocket.  As the game progressed, you could see his confidence grow, as he stayed in the pocket longer and allowed his receivers to run their routes.  The result, a 53 yd perfect pass to Ted Ginn in stride for a TD.  He later showed that cannon for an arm with absolute bullets to Camarillo and Fasano, not to mention a little finesse with that beautiful 3rd down toss to Camarillo on the game winning drive.

 

3.  Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams:  Once again these guys showed why they are the best RB tandem in th NFL this season.  Time and time again they had their way with a very suspect Jets run defense.  With the continued development of Henne, and the offensive line finally starting to gel.  I wouldn't be suprised to see them both eclipse 1000 yards this season.

 

4.  Lousaka Polite:  This guy really doesn't get the credit he deserves for not only his success rate in short yardage situations, but the vicious blocks he delivers to help open up the running game. While he did have that badly missed block on a DB, that would have sprung Ricky for a long run.  He did provide many other key blocks, as well as a bone rattling hit on Jets LB Bart Scott.

 

5.  Dan Henning:  He did a great job in creating a perfect mix of base formation and wildact plays to effectively cause confusion for the Jets defenders.  I also give him huge props for that huge 3rd down shifting line play that not only set up the game winning TD, but completely negated the overload blitz from the Jets.  I also like how he finally used Pat White the way he should be used, spread formation (or close to it), and give him the option to throw or run.

 

Why We Shouldn't Have Won.....

1.  DBs and Safeties:  They played an absolutely horrible game last night.  You simply can't win games giving up a 3rd and 21.  Luckily for us, the Jets do not have a good TE, so that glaring weakness of ours was not exploited.  But the lapses in coverage were not entirely the secondaries fault.  Which leads me to number....

2.  DL and LBs:  3 words.....Learn to TACKLE!!!  We had way too many missed tackles at the line of scrimmage resulting in 5-10 yd runs, not to mention two fake punts!!!  They have got to do a better job filling the holes and hitting the gaps.  They took a step back last night from what was one of our strongest points.  Let's hope it was just a bad game, and they bounce back.  Although I'm pretty sure there will be lots of tackling drills the next two weeks to keep it fresh in their minds.  I'm also disappointed in the lack of pressure we got on Mark Sanchez, but that leads me to number....

3.  Paul Pasqualoni:  I hate to say it, but this guy could learm a thing or two from Rex Ryan about how to effectively blitz a QB.  Throughout almost the entire game, he stuck with rushing only 4 players as he has done the whole season.  Surely getting 6 sacks against a horrible Bills team didn't justify his methods.  We simply aren't getting enough pressure on the QB by rushing 4 players.  It wasn't until he started rushing 5 or 6 that we finally started getting Sanchez to throw the ball before he wanted to.  Where was Cameron Wake?  The guy gets 3 sacks and gets promoted to punt rusher?  We have the talent to get after the QB, but we can't rely on that talent alone.  I also think he should change the way the DBs man up.  If we're playing a big receiver, like Edwards, I'd like to see Sean Smith covering him all game.  It makes throwing those jump balls that much harder.

4.  Special Teams:  This is hands down the weakest part of the team.  While our coverage is getting better, our return teams have only gotten worse.  With the possible loss of Cobbs for the season, I really truly believe the Dolphins should be scouring the FA market for a decent return man.  We can't keep expecting our offense to have to go 80+ yards every time they get the ball.

5.  Dan Henning:  Yes, I know I listed him as one of the reasons why we won, but he also is one of the reasons why we should have lost.  As the season progresses I'm becoming more and more certain that Dan Henning has no idea how to run an effective two minute drill.  You do not make major subtitutions while running a hurry up offense.  You don't throw a rookie QB off the bench, sitting your hot handed starter during the hurry up offense.  Yes, they worked this time, barely.  Scoring with 6 seconds to play, and still having one timeout is not a recipe for continued success.

 

Thankfully, just enough went our way and we left with a win going into our bye week.  We're only a game back in the AFC East, with a 2-0 Divisional record.  We got a big test ahead against NO, our defense has two weeks to get prepared, they'll need it.


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I think that 2-minute drill was perfectly run. Scoring with 6 seconds left is a good thing, it leaves the Jets with no time. And I have no problem with those substitutions. Obviously the coaches are comfortable with it, and it worked

by eaheckman10 on Oct 13, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

That's why I said we were lucky this time.....

That’s not a good way to run the two minute drill. Cause he’s shown before with CP10 to waste alot of time on the clock in the same situations.

by luvs2drnk on Oct 13, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think it was a 5 minute drill

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by samdaman on Oct 13, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It started at 5:15 or so....

But eventually turned into the 2 min drill

by luvs2drnk on Oct 13, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea

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by samdaman on Oct 13, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've had enough with this defense. It's just as bad if not worse

than last year. JT and Porter are way over the hill and should not be in there together. They should rotate with Wake so that they can catch their breath and be more effective while giving Wake a chance to play. Our secondary is just disgraceful. I don’t know specifically what it is but there are a couple of things: Both safeties are hard hitting players, not one of them is good at coverage. Our rookies make the occasional rookie mistake but that’s to be expected. Sean Smith needs to learn how to tackle. Vontae needs to be less of a gambler, Wilson…. Finally, Will Allen. Over the offseason I read more than ten times how Will Allen was shutting down everybody at practice and how great he was. And I always was like who the hell are they talking about, this guy is mediocre at best. There is a reason why you draft 2 CBs in the 1st and 2nd round. Yes, he is serviceable but he gives up too many plays.
Next year both Vontae and Sean Smith should be starting along with rookie S Chris Clemons who has all the tools to be a ball hawk. Bottom line, something needs to happen because this secondary will keep losing game for us this season.

by MauMontaV5 on Oct 13, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

secondary was killin' me...

and our D as a whole needs to step it up..are they relaxing a bit because our O is better..after all the years of keeping us in the game, now they want our O to step up…c’mon guys….National tv win..with orange was huge…proud to wear my Fin stuff again….even tho’ I always wear Fin stuff…

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by zero13 on Oct 13, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah Baby!

Good news is our line crushed the sissy Jets and dominated throughout the game, there was a Ted Ginn sighting, and Henne appears to be a STUD. Bad news is oyr defense cannot stop the pass!

by Knievel2010 on Oct 13, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

there really is no reason for us to have lost this game

if you take away the bullshit PI penalties, we actually crush them 31-13. The only reason the jets were in this game is thanks to the REFS.

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

"i think we have to look at it through his shoes" tuscanitunr talkin about brett farve.

13 1/2 phinsider fued points!!!

by MrMedic on Oct 13, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

lol you beat me to that post Medic by 2 min !! Damn you !! I was typing when you posted this.... lol

Glad were on the same page here. I said that last night.. It woulda been 31 to 13 most likely if the refs were not slobbing the jets knobs all night.

Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
CP10 you will be missed. Long live noodle arm ! Seriously, a great leader and I hope we see Coach CP10

by MainePhinFan on Oct 13, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

You forgot to mention the Refs in the "why we almost lost" section..

How many of us yelled at the TV “are you fuking kidding me!!!!!!!” about 4 times last night with at least 2 being completely justified? One of the PI calls was 1000000% Pure BULLSHIT and the UC call on Bell (I believe) was totaly Freeking BS as well.

Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
CP10 you will be missed. Long live noodle arm ! Seriously, a great leader and I hope we see Coach CP10

by MainePhinFan on Oct 13, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

must we get all tecnical?

we won a great game, jet fans cried!
happy sam :-)

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by samdaman on Oct 13, 2009 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

hey sam

what happened to word from the honerd??

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

"i think we have to look at it through his shoes" tuscanitunr talkin about brett farve.

13 1/2 phinsider fued points!!!

by MrMedic on Oct 13, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

had no time, but im writing a game recap now

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by samdaman on Oct 13, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

im very disappointed in u sam

u let me down last week.

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

"i think we have to look at it through his shoes" tuscanitunr talkin about brett farve.

13 1/2 phinsider fued points!!!

by MrMedic on Oct 13, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

im sorry, i'll write two this week

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by samdaman on Oct 13, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

get on it!

if i put out a chill pill before u put out the word, its on!

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

"i think we have to look at it through his shoes" tuscanitunr talkin about brett farve.

13 1/2 phinsider fued points!!!

by MrMedic on Oct 13, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

u win

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by samdaman on Oct 13, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

weak

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

"i think we have to look at it through his shoes" tuscanitunr talkin about brett farve.

13 1/2 phinsider fued points!!!

by MrMedic on Oct 13, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

mines up, u?

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by samdaman on Oct 13, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well played sir!

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by texascowpunk on Oct 14, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really like this post.

this was a very close game, and thats why it was so exciting.

We could have easily lost, but thenm again if we were more disciplined on their 4th downs, got more pressure on Sanchez, didnt get some big PI calls this game could have been a blowout.

Laces out!

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by BSerious72 on Oct 13, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

rec'd btw

i like ur points alot

Laces out!

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by BSerious72 on Oct 13, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

our defense not that bad

if not for braylen edwards and a couple of fake punts we held sanchez to 12 of 24 not a bad night if you ask me . yes we can improve on our corners but we ’re dealing with rookies they ’ ll get it . finally we have a deep ball threat with hennes arm and ginn catching the clutch pass. as far as porter and taylor i agree porter may be on his last legs but taylor looks better than he has in years , combine him with cameron wake as we did against buffalo and look out

by finslifer on Oct 13, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

That's why I put Paul Pasqaloni on here.

He’s not using the talent we have in the front seven effectively. 4 man rushes are not getting it done, and he can’t use the success we had against the Bills as a benchmark for success. He needs to look at the SD and Colts games and look for improvements. If we improve our pass rush, the secondary won’t have to cover for so long, and long pass plays won’t have time to develop.

by luvs2drnk on Oct 13, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

All good points

and other than Jenkins throwing Smiley to the side I thought he was handled very well and Jake Grove just continues to look well worth the money but the OL did a fantastic job all the way around embarrassing what I think is a very good Defense…I can’t say enough about the job the TE’s did as well.

I’m very pleased with Chad Hennes progression not to mention it’s only his second start and it has nothing to do with him being able to get Ginn the ball because we all knew he could do that.He not only has tremendous velocity but he can throw with touch,you can’t rattle him and he seems to anticipate very well and thats with only two weeks getting all the snaps so the sky is the limit when they all truly get on the same page IMO.

We could talk about Ronnie and Ricky all day!

Fullbacks go mostly unnoticed but Polite is money 99% of the time blocking and 100% getting a first down.

Dan Henning is a great Football mind when he throws caution to the wind and plays to win instead of playing not to lose and I think he devised a great game plan going into last night,kept them back on their heels and stuck to it so kudos to him for hitting them in the mouth.

Concerning the negatives I just don’t understand Allen being on the go to guy yet again when that seems to be where the big plays against us always happen. He broke on the ball very well when he almost intercepted that pass but he just doesn’t have any business trying to cover Braylon Edwards when Smith did a very good job when he was on him…is he going to be speacial or what!

As far as the lack of a pass rush goes,I cringed everytime we didn’t blitz because you just knew he was going to have all day to throw and then the predictable bomb,we better get after Brees in two weeks or it will be a long day.

by firedanhenningnow on Oct 13, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem with Allen and Smith is....

They play their repsective sides. So the offense can dictate which side gives them a better matchup. I think we need to get away from that and pick the matchups we want, by letting the CBs guard a person they are better suited guarding. I’m not so sure Edwards makes that sideline catch with Smith guarding him.

by luvs2drnk on Oct 13, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

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