The Phinsider Mock Draft v1.0
I tried to hold off on doing this until at least after the Combine next month. But I couldn't do it. I love mock drafts. They are mostly full of total B.S. - but they are just so much fun to debate.
In 2007, in my final mock draft, I got 11 first round picks correct. Last year, I improved that total to 12. So this year, I'm shooting for luck number 13. Below is my first edition of what will likely be many mock drafts before April's draft. And it's 100% likely I will completely change my entire mock after the Combine and after free agency. But, hey, if nothing else, this is a good way to start some debate.
So, without further ado, I present The Phinsider Mock Draft, version 1.0:
1. Detroit Lions - Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
There are two ways to begin a rebuilding process. You start either with a quarterback or with a left tackle. I don't think the Lions, at this point, are sold on either Matthew Stafford or Mark Sanchez as franchise quarterbacks. But I can guarantee you that Eugene Monroe is a franchise left tackle. So, for all the money that the top pick commands, it makes sense to go with the safer bet. Monroe is the safer bet.
2. St. Louis Rams - Andre Smith, OT, Alabama
Yes, it seems odd that two left tackles are selected 1-2 in the draft. But it just makes sense this year. The Rams desperately need a new franchise LT, as their old franchise LT can't seem to stay on the field. Orlando Pace served the franchise well for over 10 years. And to help fix this broken franchise, might as well go back to the well and solidify the LT spot once again.
3. Kansas City Chiefs - Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
Earlier this year, I didn't think the Chiefs would spend a high pick on a QB. I figured that their current regime liked Tyler Thigpen enough to stick with him for one more year and give him a fair shot. But with a new regime heading to KC, that theory goes out the window. A strong showing at the Combine from Stafford should cement his status as the best QB in the draft.
4. Seattle Seahawks - Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
Simply put, Crabtree is the best player available in this draft. He's a dynamic receiver; a true play-maker. And if he falls to the 4th pick, they will be dancing up in Seattle. It's a perfect match of drafting for value and drafting for need. The Seahawks have been in search of a true #1 receiver for years. Crabtree is exactly what this franchise needs.
5. Cleveland Browns - Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio St.
The Browns will be very happy if the draft's best defensive back is available with their 5th pick. Cleveland needs a cornerback badly and Jenkins has been considered a top 10 draft pick since last offseason. And it'll be a special treat for Ohio sports fans simply because Jenkins spent his college years in Columbus.
6. Cincinnati Bengals - Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
Three tackles in the first 6 picks. Crazy, huh? But what bigger of a need do the Bengals have than their offensive line? You can make a case for a pass rushing DE or a linebacker here. However, an offensive line that was once thought to be a strength of the Bengals has been hit by age and injuries. Protecting Carson Palmer's blind side should be this team's priority.
7. Oakland Raiders - Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
The Raiders need help badly along their defensive line. Orakpo is a beast of a pass-rusher - probably the best pure pass-rusher in the draft. He'll make an ideal fit replacing the aging Derrick Burgess as the team's primary pass-rushing threat.
8. Jacksonville Jaguars - Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
Maclin is a player I just love. I think he is the best pure route runner in the draft and is a threat to score every time he sees the field. The Jaguars have long been searching for an ideal #1 receiver and Maclin is just what they need. And since their other top need is probably offensive tackle, and the 3 top tackles are already off the board, it just makes sense for the Jags to get their #1 receiver - finally.
9. Green Bay Packers - Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest
Could this be? Could the draft's best defensive player still be on the board at pick #9? Yes. And it's a blessing for the Packers, who should jump at the opportunity of adding this dynamic linebacker. They are converting to a 3-4 defense this offseason and Curry could realistically play either inside or outside linebacker in that scheme.
10. San Francisco 49ers - Mark Sanchez, QB, USC
The 49ers have long been searching for their next franchise QB. Sanchez could be that guy. I'm not totally sold on him, but I know there are some out there that love his skills and his intangibles. But if the Niners decide Sanchez isn't there guy, look for them to take B.J. Raji to be their nose tackle for the next decade.
11. Buffalo Bills - B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
12. Denver Broncos - Rey Maualuga, LB, USC
13. Washington Redskins - Everette Brown, DE, Florida St.
14. New Orleans Saints - James Laurinaitis, LB, Ohio St.
15. Houston Texans - Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
16. San Diego Chargers - Chris Wells, RB, Ohio St.
17. New York Jets - Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
18. Chicago Bears - Aaron Maybin, DE, Penn St.
19. Tampa Bay Bucs - Peria Jerry, DT, Mississippi
20. Detroit Lions - D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt
21. Philadelphia Eagles - Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi
22. Minnesota Vikings - Alex Mack, C, Cal
23. New England Patriots - William Moore, S, Missouri
24. Atlanta Falcons - Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
25. Miami Dolphins - Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia
Right now, it just makes the most sense to guess that the Dolphins will address their need at outside linebacker and take Sintim - a player who has spent his college career as an OLB in a 3-4 at Virginia. The Dolphins could also go with either USC linebacker - Brian Cushing or Clay Matthews. But Cushing doesn't have great speed and also has some durability concerns. Meanwhile, Matthews is raw and may have more upside at OLB. But it would take some amazing workouts for Matthews to move up into the first round.
The Dolphins could also look at USC DT Fili Moala. He weighed in at 303 pounds at the Senior Bowl - and could still add some weight and be a solid NT in a 3-4. But he'll need his stock to rise some more. It's unlikely he'll be at the very top of Miami's draft board when they are on the clock - barring, of course, some outstanding workouts at the Combine.
26. Baltimore Ravens - Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
27. Indianapolis Colts - Fili Moala, DT, USC
28. Philadelphia Eagles - Duke Robinson, G, Oklahoma
29. New York Giants - Brian Cushing, LB, USC
30. Tennessee Titans - Percey Harvin, WR, Florida
31. Arizona Cardinals - Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia
32. Pittsburgh Steelers - Max Unger, C, Oregon
So that's my first official 1st round mock draft of 2009. And I guarantee it will change many times before April's draft rolls around.
So let's hear what you think below...
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Raji left out
You almost had the niners take Raji at 10, but then left him out of the first round, I’d love to see him fall to 25 for the dolphins but it’s not gonna happen
by Scottydoyle on Jan 30, 2009 12:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i knew i forgot somebody
i fixed that oversight
by Matty I on Jan 30, 2009 1:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Knowshon
Doubt he falls that far, although it’s hard to say who will take him. He’d be a good fit for the pats but they don’t like taking RBs high. Maybe it’s a reach but I could see the Saints taking him, they desperately need a real running back.
by Offer Doll on Jan 30, 2009 1:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
knowshon = from nj
Enough is enough...we need Natalya back. I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man.
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by finsxfactor on Jan 31, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
middletown south
Enough is enough...we need Natalya back. I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man.
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by finsxfactor on Jan 31, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
malcolm jenkins is too
he’s from middlesex county…i forget which high school
by Matty I on Feb 1, 2009 1:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
was he really..? lol wow
GO NJ!!
Enough is enough...we need Natalya back. I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man.
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by finsxfactor on Feb 1, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In fact...
..he’s from Rutgers territory – Piscataway. Went to Piscataway high
by Matty I on Feb 1, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol he shoulda went to rutgers lol
Enough is enough...we need Natalya back. I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man.
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by finsxfactor on Feb 1, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh man
harvin to the titans?
imagine if the titans were to run some form of a wildcat with collins, young, chris johnson, percy harvin, and justin gage. jebus.
by fishstick on Jan 30, 2009 8:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
collins out after this year
vince should be the qb. or they stepping way back.
Enough is enough...we need Natalya back. I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man.
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by finsxfactor on Jan 31, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
go through growin pains now.
Enough is enough...we need Natalya back. I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man.
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by finsxfactor on Jan 31, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my first post
what we need is a DT. we got cameron wake and i think we have to see what he does first. if we put up with 1 year with matt roth as our OLB we could give this guy a chance before we draft one in the 1st round. wishfull thinking i want B.J. Raji, his back up in boston college, or Fili Moala. Ferguson is 35 an is not getting any younger. i rather put up with 1 year with wake at OLB. than one year with soliali as our starting DT.
by no name d on Jan 30, 2009 9:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm kind of hoping the Dolphins take Ron Brace...
…in the 2nd round. Pick 25 is too high for him.
by Matty I on Jan 30, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
britt = should refuse to workout with any team other than the dolphins.
Enough is enough...we need Natalya back. I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man.
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by finsxfactor on Jan 31, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nice post matty!
i hope you will keep refining this as we get closer and after FA.
I like the idea of going front 7 with this pick. Sintim would be awesome, but if there was a pocket collapsing, pass rushing NT there, that would be my first pick. It seems to me that this draft class overall isn’t that great, so I think i would stick to the D side, and grab BPA in general, even if it is a DB, if the guy is a player… rather than draft a lesser talent at a position. i would be happy with Sintim though.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 30, 2009 11:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Max Unger is a badass name isnt it?
I wouldnt be shocked to see us draft him if he is there.
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by Patssuck456 on Jan 30, 2009 12:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Draft
I think the Browns may take a look at Curry at 5. Malcom Jenkins should be the pick though. No way do the Jets take Tyson Jackson. He may be the only real 4-3 defensive end in this draft right now. Aaron Maybin is too small to play 4-3 end as well. I think he weighs near the 240 mark. Plus he’s a tad over rated. He’ll probably go to a 3-4 team and he’s only a 1 year starter. Alphonso Smith looks like a great corner but he may need to play in a cover 2 scheme. As far as our pick goes, I think Sintim is a tad over rated as well. Good player but with all these DE/OLB projected to play in a 3-4 this year it will be interesting to see where we go in the 1st round. We know Parcells loves LB’s and I’m sure we’ll take a few this year but depending on what NT’s are there may decide on our strategy.
Matt
by Matt27 on Jan 30, 2009 1:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I applaud your skills and
Going against the “experts” with Lions pick. Although I agree and think the answer is in a safe pick like an OT, the Lions probably will have another bad draft and pick Stafford, not looking at the Dolphins success in picking Long over Ryan.
The Patriots Suck
by k2oconnor on Jan 30, 2009 1:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well
you can’t really say that the Lions, looking at last year’s draft, will take the OT because we did. Matt Ryan had a terrific year, so if anything, that will encourage them to take a QB and pair him up with Calvin Johnson, the same way ATL did with Ryan and Roddy White.
But, I think the better pick is Monroe, because I don’t see Stafford equaling Ryan’s ability to start and play well right away. However, I think they will pick Stafford because there’s really nothing for Detroit to be excited about, and I think the FO will try to land that franchise QB to energize the city and build around him. And if Stafford turns out to be a franchise QB, then they really can’t make a bad move at that spot, as long as they take one of those two.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 30, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know, If I were the Lions I would go OT. They drafted Cherilus last year and can play him at RT and draft Oher/Smith and play him at LT
Next year is the year for QB’s imo
McCoy, Tebow, Bradford, Jake Locker (doubt he will come out), Kevin Riley, Dan LeFevour. All awesome QB’s
Plus its the Lions, they are probably going to be picking top 3 again.
If they were smart they would draft an OT this year, see what they have in Drew Stanton and if that fails draft a QB in next years super deep QB draft class.
by cbdolphin on Jan 30, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I’d take the tackle too, but this is the Lions. And it’s never a bad idea to get a franchise QB, so long as he doesn’t bust. I think Stafford has a better chance of being a franchise QB than McCoy, Tebow, or Bradford anyway. All three of those guys, for some reason, aren’t considered “system QB’s,” even though all three are shotgun spread offense QB’s. So I disagree that next year is a super deep QB class. This spread option craze in college is really watering down the QB pool for NFL teams.
Also, just going by Matty’s mock, they would have a chance to get Stafford at 1 and then Michael Oher at 20. If they take Monroe first, there is no other QB worth a first day pick for them. I’d much rather be willing to take a chance with Oher at LT than Stanton at QB. So, while the safe pick is Monroe, they may get more value out of a Stafford/Oher first round combo.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 30, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tebow is a system qb that could be good due his athletic skillset and football iq
Alot of good qb’s play in a spread offense. McCoy and Bradford I like more than Stafford, but that is just an opinion I suppose.
by cbdolphin on Jan 30, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As to picking an ot at 20, they did that with Cherilius and he hasn't shown any promise imo to be a LT
A good o-line can mask major QB flaws
by cbdolphin on Jan 30, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's true.
But didn’t Atlanta take Baker somewhere down in the 20’s and he started the whole season at LT right?
I also think Oher at 20 is a steal, because I think he’s gonna be a very good LT. He’s much better than Cherilus, who is a much better RT than he is LT.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 30, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly doubt Oher will drop to 20
by cbdolphin on Jan 30, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
me too
but there’s a possibility, especially since he’s fallen behind the other 3 OT’s. Eben Britton will be available towards the end of round 1/beginning of round 2 as well.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 30, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think anyone outside of Smith/Oher/monroe as being a good lt lt in this draft
by cbdolphin on Jan 30, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also don't see any QB behind Stafford and Sanchez
being able to start. Their best value may still be to get Stafford, because the draft is deep pretty much everywhere except QB.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 30, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I just and not to high on Stafford/Sanchez
by cbdolphin on Jan 30, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think either of them belong going #1
by cbdolphin on Jan 30, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough..
can’t say whether you’re right or wrong for another couple years anyway lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 30, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also, they can draft any QB they want, but they are never going to keep him off his back with the line they have now
by cbdolphin on Jan 30, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also true lol
they have ALOT of holes anyway, so it won’t be fixed there in one year.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 30, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I also think Det has seen firsthand what throwing a rookie qb into the fire with literally no help does
by cbdolphin on Jan 30, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Poor Joey Harrington
kid was ruined lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 30, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he is the one Oregon QB that I think would have been very very good if he didn't end up with the Lions
by cbdolphin on Jan 30, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
probably
they really just wrecked that kid’s chances at anything.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 30, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Elite QB
If you want to be a contender for the playoffs (and Superbowl) every year, you need an elite QB. If you think Stafford is that guy, you have to take him. It might not happen in year 1, but by year 3, you should know.
Look at the teams that are picked to go to the playoffs each year prior to the season starting. What do they all have in common: Elite QB’s. Indy, NE, SD, Pitt, Phi, NYG, Dal, and NO all have “that” guy. There are teams in the NFL right now that have a lot of offensive talent and a very good left tackle who watch the playoffs year in and year out because they don’t have that special QB. Minnesota, NYJ, Cle, Sea, are just a few of the teams that I can think of off the top of my head that have outstanding left tackles. Where are they right now.
As much as I think Jake Long is going to be very good for a long time in the league, I think in a couple of years we are going to look back and regret not taking Matt Ryan. He is that guy and Atlanta is going to be playoff / superbowl contenders for the next 10 years.
by ct1361 on Jan 30, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pitt/Phi are the only 2 teams that even made it to their divisional championship
and Atlanta is not a superbowl Contendor.
If anything has been shown, a great defense and a good offensive line can put almost any competent qb in the Superbowl
by cbdolphin on Jan 30, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There's a difference between being picked to go to the playoffs
and getting there. NE failed to get there because their defense broke down this year and they lost a few games they shouldn’t have. Dallas doesn’t have an elite QB. And that team was one of the worst coached and worsty disciplined in the league. New Orleans had no defense at all.
Baltimore was in the playoffs with Joe Flacco. We made the playoffs with Pennington, who nobody would consider ‘elite.’ Tennessee was the AFC’s overall number 1 seed with Kerry Collins. So it’s not an absolute must. Remember, Trent Dilfer owns a Super Bowl ring. You need a strong team overall, and you need to be able to win games with either offense or defense.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 30, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's not the question?
Any team can have a good year and make it to the playoffs and even win the superbowl. Baltimore won the superbowl and has pretty much had a great defense since that time and have been in the playoffs 3 times in the last 8 years. Maybe Flacco is the guy the need.
Why is it that the losing team in the superbowl has not made the playoffs the following year in something like 8 of the last 9 years? My contention is because they don’t have consistently good QB play. With the exception of Seattle and NE last year, take a look at the losing QB’s for those teams. Would you want any of those QB’s on your team?
All I was trying to say is that if you want to be very good in the NFL for a long period of time, you need that QB. There is a reason why almost everyone in the preseason picked Indy, NE, SD, and Pitt to represent the AFC in the Superbowl this year. Because they have that guy at QB. Does Miami have that QB? Does Atlanta? I think Atlanta does.
by ct1361 on Jan 30, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And I don't think we'll be regretting the Long over Ryan pick
especially when Long is in Pro Bowl after Pro Bowl and Parcells has built a Super Bowl contender here in Miami.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 30, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 30, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Knowing what you know now, if you could go back to the 2008 draft, you wouldn't
take Matt Ryan over Jake Long? Even though he wouldn’t say it, I bet Parcells would.
by ct1361 on Jan 30, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No I wouldn't
You don’t win without an OL, no matter who is the QB. And it really doesn’t matter if you want Ryan or not, because he’s on the Falcons. If you want to sit here and regret our draft pick and lust for Matt Ryan go ahead, but I feel like we made the right move. Jake is going to a GREAT LT.
I’m glad you know so much about Parcells, though. Maybe you can lend us some insight on this year’s draft strategy. You do realize he builds a team through the trenches right? So why would he EVER regret taking one of the best LT prospects in years?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 30, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you rebuild by building the trenches
no trench talent, no offensive production regardless of who is slinging the rock. Same goes for defense….it all starts on the line.
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by HuskerDolphin on Jan 30, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Which Parcells rebuilding team did you want to discuss?
How about the 2-14 New England team with the first overall draft pick. Did he take the best OL in the ’93 draft or the best QB? He took Bledsoe. And all Bledsoe did was lead the Patriots to the Superbowl in his 4th year. Drew Bledsoe was the winning QB in 2 AFC Championship Games and a losing QB in 1 Superbowl. He led the Patriots to 4 playoff berths in a 6 year time frame.
In the ’93 draft, Parcells had the opportunity to draft a future hall of fame left tackle, the best at his position. Willie Roaf was taken 8th by the Saints. In his 13 years in the league, he made 11 pro bowls. Guess how many playoff appearances he made? 2. One with the saints and one with the chiefs.
I applauded the draft pick of Jake Long (hopefully he is as good as Roaf). I did not want Matt Ryan before the draft. I didn’t think he was going to be any good. I assume Parcells felt the same way. Because any GM would draft a franchise QB over an OL every time. Also if you looked at what the draft experts were saying in December about the ’08 draft revisited, every one that I saw said that the Dolphins should have taken Matt Ryan.
by ct1361 on Jan 30, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
QBs are a product of circumstance.
If we drafted Ryan he would have filled Chad Henne’s role this year.
Ryan had some solid WRs to target and the best RB in the league…
When the gloss has come off Matt Ryan, Jake Long will still be Jake Long.
by Braun Holio on Jan 30, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well said
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 30, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice job.
Can’t say that I disagree with any of the picks, especially since I have no idea how it’s going to turn out anyway.
I can disagree with the Dolphins pick of Sintim though. I just think with the Cameron Wake signing, the need at OLB is knocked down a couple pegs. Now, I know we haven’t seen anything to say he’s gonna be any good in the NFL, but I’m putting faith in this regime that they know what they’re doing, and signing him long-term just sends a message to me that they think they’ve found a sleeper.
As of now, I think we would go with either Moala, depending on how he grades out compared to Brace (who I think we can get with the first of our 2 2nds), or any one of the 4 OL you have projected in that range (Oher, Mack, Robinson, Unger), particulary Mack or Unger because they give us more flexibility on the interior.
So, say Mack falls a few more spots and we get him 25. I think we then take Brace at the top of round 2, and then address the secondary with a guy like Sean Smith, the 6’3 combo CB/FS from Utah.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 30, 2009 1:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I just don't think you can count on Wake yet
We know nothing of how he will perform at this next level.
One other thing – Sean Smith’s stock is going to rise. I get the feeling Smith might become a low 1 or high 2 draft pick. I even saw one mock that had the Dolphins taking Smith at #25.
by Matty I on Jan 30, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well then..
bump him up to 2a, take Moala first, and grab Wood or Luigs late in round 2
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 30, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Make a move !!!!
They must be very high on Wake and yes we haven’t seen him play the same could be said for any rookie we take as cb pointed out. They must have been really pleased with his workouts to give him that much money so I can see us addressing another need either in the secondary or LB position. I am hoping we make a move with one of our 2nd round picks and first to move up and get Rey Maualuga … That would be amazing
by markus_13 on Jan 30, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well there still duke robinson
Say the truth its almost impossible to say who the dolphins are going to choice cuz i dont even think that they know…….They just have an idea the players they like….On top of that we have the free agency around the corner and what happens if we do pick up julius peppers……..But i believe are best bet is to go for duke robinson and boost up are o-line and the same with the d-line and thats how it all starts out……Just imagine jake long,duke robinson,samson satelle,justin smiley,and vernon carey a young and talented o-line like that…….What can be better,Itll bosst up the running game and give chad more time in the pocket……
by lionel on Jan 30, 2009 2:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What a Line !!!!
The sounds of that line just brought a tear to my eye .. we would also have a good backup with Donald Thomas. As cb was saying FA will dictate with where we go. We are still very short on talent in the Tackle position after our starters(if Carey stays) .. I could see this being addressed with a third or forth round pick depending on whom is available.
by markus_13 on Jan 30, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love Duke Robinson for our first choice as well.
He is far better than any other guard in the draft.
I think of the OLBs one of the Sintim/Cushing/Matthews troika will still be available come our second pick, no chance Duke falls that far.
That would be a beast young O-line.
by Braun Holio on Jan 30, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh- I really don't think any guard
is worth taking in round one. Even an RT would have to be elite like a Jeff Otah to go in round one. We could get a guard with the same size/speed combo in rounds 3-5 like a Ray Feinga (6’-5" 330 lbs, 5.35 40 yd dash).
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by GatorPhan on Jan 31, 2009 2:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Detriot goin D with #1 picks
I tend to disagree that the Lions will even go with an offensive player with the first pick. While a franchise tackle or QB would be ideal I don’t see them trying to make a splash. I can easily see them making a run at Aaron Curry with the #1 pick. Their D sucked last year and they brought in a DC as a new coach. It would only make sense that is the area they would want to address. They still have Culpepper and Drew Stanton at QB and brought in a young LT last season. Their offense seemed to put up points last year no matter who threw up the ball it was just never enough because the D didn’t make enough plays
by markus_13 on Jan 30, 2009 3:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Umm.....Aaron Curry will not be drafted with the 1st overall pick.
They already have Ernie Sims, the drafted Jordan Dizon last year, and this is a relatively strong year for LB’s in FA and the Lions have capspace I believe?
I think they will go OT then go after Moreno/Wells.
I know they drafted Kevin Smith but he got benched for Rudi Johnson and are one of the few teams without a clear cut 1st choice at RB
by cbdolphin on Jan 30, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
More than half of the mocks out there have them taking Stafford.
I can’t see that..
I could see them taking whoever looks like the best OT following the combine.
If the go with D on the first pick I could see them taking Orakpo but not Curry, LBs don’t go that early.
by Braun Holio on Jan 30, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I see what you mean but you never know .. this is the Lions hahaha
by markus_13 on Feb 3, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
trade up
i’m thinking they are trading up to get BJ, hoping they dont give away too much to get him. Our #1 , #4 and a 3rd string QB?
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by Phintastic on Jan 30, 2009 3:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If we lose Crowder
I wouldn’t mind trading up to get Maualuga. He is a beast. He flies to the ball, makes plays al over the fiels, has the size the trifecta likes, and it may end up filling a huge hole, if Crowder leaves via free agency. Can you imagine, Porter, Maualuga, Dansby(if we can get him), and Roth? Ouch!
Now is the time- the time to rise up from the depths of Hell and stake our claim back on top of the AFC East...Look out Gaytriots here comes Jake Long and the Phins
by FinzD54 on Jan 30, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
just don't see Parcells Inc. trading up.
its a known philosophy of his……build picks, don’t trade away. Buy low, sell high….increase value in a player. Don’t quick fix or stop gap or anything else short term. Build for the long haul.
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by HuskerDolphin on Jan 30, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You never know ...
I know that is his philosphy but if you can move up to get Maualuga for our 25th pick and one of our second wouldn`t you do that? I don`t know the point system but say he drops out of the Top 10 as Matty has it .. if we can jump to 11 and take him I say do it. You would keep our long term plans in place with a possible stud at ILB and add with another 2nd round pick that we already have. He would be an amazing addition to this team plus he is not a quick fix or stop gap as you put it .. it would be a long term player for the D .. something we lack at this moment (other than Merling and Langford)
by markus_13 on Jan 30, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great Job Matty!
I would quibble with a few (always easier to nitpick somebody else’s ideas):
I think that Matthew Stafford is going to have an Aaron Rodgers-type free-fall.
I see KC picking Michael Crabtree instead…as you said, he’s the best player in the draft.
Can you imagine KC with Thigpen, Bowe, Gonzalez, and Crabtree as weapons? He doesn’t have to be any good, just chuck it up and one of those monsters will come down with the ball. He would also have LJ in the backfield to take pressure off the pass rush.
I say Seattle then takes Jason Smith to replace Walter Jones (or augment him for now) and Cleveland takes Everette Brown to create a Florida State pass-rushing tandem of Brown and Wimbley.
Cincy takes Malcolm Jenkins (Ohio State) to pair with Leon Hall and then I agree with you all the way to Washington who I think will pay whatever it takes to sign Julius Peppers. I think that they then reach for Michael Johnson (Georgia Tech) and try to turn him into a Julius Peppers clone. They might trade-down to do so.
I also disagree with the Jets picking Tyson Jackson. I see Rex Ryan going after the falling Matthew Stafford and viewing it as a “value pick” or maybe Ron Brace (to replace/backup Kris Jenkins).
Everything else looks spot on to me, though I would love to see the Phins take Sean Smith with the #25 pick.
by DolphDallas on Jan 30, 2009 5:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
great read!!
Although you got most of the picks right, you missed the possibility of the Phins trading one of their two second round picks and their first rounder to get Crabtree. We need a wide receiver and fast. If we don’t make this move, we should get Ramses Barden, out of the division two ranks. We need a wide receiver badly, but we also need to make some other moves and also get younger at some positions, like defensive tackle. A lot of the moves that we make will depend on the moves that we make in free agency. Now more than ever we need to make the right moves in order to keep the bus moving. We should sign Haynesworth in free agency and also Karlos Dansby to fill thye void that Channing Crowder will most likely leave. We also need to add depth and brute strength on both sides of the ball. We just need to keep adding depth in all the right positions.
by dolphin341 on Jan 30, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
aren't mocks
before the combine even more pointless then usual?
by W NY Fins Fan on Jan 30, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
isn't your comment even more pointless than usual?
by cbdolphin on Jan 30, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
SLAP
"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"
by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 30, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
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by HuskerDolphin on Jan 30, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow...that was filled with epicness
Enough is enough...we need Natalya back. I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man.
Official Leader of the Draft Kenny Britt Bandwagon
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by finsxfactor on Jan 30, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
indeed they are
but here’s a little blog secret I’ll share…….
mock drafts bring in a ton of hits. seriously, a ton. and potential advertisers love seeing hits.
big business at work lol
by Matty I on Jan 31, 2009 2:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you want hits?....
Enough is enough...we need Natalya back. I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man.
Official Leader of the Draft Kenny Britt Bandwagon
Longest Sig In the History of Phinsider belongs to Me. 53 Lines in Total.
by finsxfactor on Jan 31, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Love your picks-
I agree that the Lions will not take a QB- Schwartz is a defensive coach. Also, he has an economics degree and has a very statistics oriented mind. I have to imagine he will work just like Parcells and take a tackle. I think Oher will go before Munroe though- he is raw right now but has the biggest upside of any tackle- ie by the time the Lions are actually any good- he will be the best tackle.
You know I love that Sintim pick.
"They say statistics are for losers, but losers are usually the ones thinking that. . . . Everything we do is analyzed. Is that the bottom line? No. You can't analyze the heart of Tim Tebow." - Urban Meyer
by GatorPhan on Jan 31, 2009 2:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
that pick is bull crap when you pick in the first round you want a playmaker and there are way better players than clint snintm
by Deuce Black on Jan 31, 2009 4:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Where is your crystal ball that has let you see the future?
Sintim is a beast pass rusher and one of the only players in the draft to play a 3-4 D in college at a major BCS program. Who exactly do you propose we take that will be soooo amazing at 25?
"They say statistics are for losers, but losers are usually the ones thinking that. . . . Everything we do is analyzed. Is that the bottom line? No. You can't analyze the heart of Tim Tebow." - Urban Meyer
by GatorPhan on Jan 31, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
like kenny britt... i agree! lol..i think...idk
Enough is enough...we need Natalya back. I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man.
Official Leader of the Draft Kenny Britt Bandwagon
Longest Sig In the History of Phinsider belongs to Me. 53 Lines in Total.
by finsxfactor on Jan 31, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Finsx-
Briit will not be there at 25 ;)
"They say statistics are for losers, but losers are usually the ones thinking that. . . . Everything we do is analyzed. Is that the bottom line? No. You can't analyze the heart of Tim Tebow." - Urban Meyer
by GatorPhan on Jan 31, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but can we draft him please.......
Enough is enough...we need Natalya back. I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man.
Official Leader of the Draft Kenny Britt Bandwagon
Longest Sig In the History of Phinsider belongs to Me. 53 Lines in Total.
by finsxfactor on Jan 31, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thick-headed
"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"
by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 1, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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