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Brandon London Contract: What Did We Buy?

It was revealed recently that WR Brandon London will sign a contract extension upon returning from a family visit.  I haven't seen any details yet, but I would expect it to be a bit less than Greg Camarillos 3 year, $3 million deal, possibly similar to the $2.1 million extension offered to Patrick Cobbs?  Who knows, but its probably a decent bump up from the rookie minimum of a bit under $300,000.  So what is our coin going to buy us (Hey-we buy the tickets, we buy the $7 beers, and we buy the hats & jerseys so it IS our money)?

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Well, we certainly aren't paying for past production.  3 receptions for 30 yards, 0 TDs, 2 kick returns for 28 yards, and 6 special teams tackles.  Nothing to write home about.  But consider this.  Look at the following descriptions of wide receivers.

WR A: 6'-1", 216 lbs, 4.72s 40 yard dash

WR B: 6'-3", 223 lbs, 4.63s 40 yard dash

WR C: 6'-4", 225 lbs, 4.52s 40 yard dash

WR D: 6'-4", 215 lbs, 4.52s 40 yard dash

WR E: 6'-2", 211 lbs, 4.48s 40 yard dash

All but one of those receivers is (or at least was) a 'number 1' WR type of player.  Who is the odd man out? 

A looks a bit short, and he is the slowest- is it him?  Nope, that's Anquan Boldin-  he went over 1,000 yards on the year even after having his skull crushed by a cheap shot. 

Maybe E?  Roy Williams- he didn't have the best year in Dallas, but they traded away practically their whole draft to get him.

I'm sure you all know B is Larry "The Unstoppable Man-Beast" Fitzgerald-  good for 1,431 yards and 12 TDs on the season.

So that brings us to either C or D.  Of course you've figured out that one is Brandon London- but who is the other?  C is Brandon Marshall.  They look nearly identical in build and speed.  They even share the name Brandon-yet London has 3 catches and 30 yards, while the Marshall has 104 catches, 1,265 yards, and 6 TDs. 

So it would seem we are 'investing' in potential, and for London I feel that the sky is the limit.  Simply put, I love this move by the Trifecta.  He has every tool available to Marshall and then some; with time in training camp to get an understanding of the offense, don't be surprised to see his trend of increased playing time continue. I feel that IF (and its a big if) he can get his head around the mental aspect of the game, then he could be as good or better than Marshall.

For example, look at the following:

One of London's biggest drawbacks was that he played at UMass, a 1-AA/FCS school, and thus didn't face 'elite competition' in college.  But he did play for all 4 years, starting his final two.  Marshall only had one year with any significant stats and was otherwise wildly inconsistent (though they were very good stats to be fair).  And Marshall played at UCF in Conference USA and the MAC- a step above 1-AA no doubt, but he wasn't exactly matched up against 1st round draft picks week in and week out either. And if you look at their college stats, for London you see solid and steady improvement, Marshall did nothing for 3 years then had an explosive year.

 

London, Career Receiving
Year Games Rec Yards Avg/Rec Avg/Game TD
2006 14 50 781 15.62 55.79 9
2005 11 60 774 12.90 70.36 3
2004 11 34 439 12.91 39.91 3
2003 13 4 28 7.00 2.15 0

 

Marshall, Career Receiving
Year Games Rec Yards Avg/Rec Avg/Game TD
2005 13 74 1195 16.15 91.92 11
2004 10 8 84 10.50 8.40 0
2003 11 28 377 13.46 34.27 2
2004 10 8 84 10.50 8.40 0

Marshall's high was significantly higher, but he also has much lower valley's as well.  I love to see solid production that steadily rises with experience, and that is London.  Also keep in mind, that if you argue that London faced weaker competition, you would also have to acknowledge that he also was on a weaker team himself- with other WRs that couldn't help as much with the load, a worse O-line buying time for him to get open, and a worse QB to get him the ball.

If you want to compare apples to apples, lets look at their results from the combine/pro-days.  This will give you a good idea of how they match up athletically- and they are only competing against themselves here so it is a level playing field:

 

London Marshall Diff
Height 6043 6044 -1/8"
Weight 215 225 -10
40 Yrd Dash 4.52 4.52 0
20 Yrd Dash 2.66 2.71 -0.05
10 Yrd Dash 1.49 1.6 -0.11
Vertical Jump 38 37 1
Broad Jump 10'-2" 10'-0" 2"
20 Yrd Shuttle 4.15 4.31 -0.16
3-Cone Drill 6.55 6.69 -0.14

Note: The Diff Column is London's stat - Marshall's stat so a negative time is faster, negative height is shorter, etc.

 

So Marshall has 1/8" and 10 lbs on him, and they are even in the 40 yard dash.  But London is quicker in the 10 and 20- so he gets off the line faster.  He jumps one inch higher, 2 inches further, and is better at the shuttle and 3 cone drill.  All in all his measurables predict him to be slightly MORE athletic than Marshall.  Now he hasn't proven it, but like I said- we are investing in potential and it seems to be there. 

The biggest factor seems to be London putting it all together in his head.

Mentally, there is no comparison between the two.  Marshall has been arrested on multiple occasions for DUI, domestic violence, assault of a law enforcement officer, among others.  London is the son of a former NFL D-line coach who now is the head coach of the Richmond Spiders- the 2008 FCS National Champions.  He works hard, and gives his all whether its making a catch or busting a wedge.  

 

OK OK, so maybe I am sounding a bit too enthusiastic.  I do not believe he is the second coming of Larry Fitzgerald, and he may never be as good as Marshall.  But he has the tools.  And unlike a draft pick, he has flashed some of that potential on the field.  And you can see the heart and determination he plays with every time he gets on the field.  Does he go for 1000 yards next season?  Not a chance. But maybe in year three. . . Anyways- all I ask is that you just keep him in mind when you are praying for that 1st day draft pick to be spent on a WR ;)  We could use it on a real position like tackle or LB instead!

 

 

Some bonus facts about Brandon London:

  • Tied a school record with 13 receptions in one game
  • Tied a school record with 4 TDs in one game
  • He is 2nd all time at UMass with 148 receptions
  • He is 3rd all time in receiving yards with 2,022
  • He is 4th in career receiving TDs with 15
  • He has the 5th best record for single season TDs with 9
  • He had at least one catch in the last 20 games of his college career
  • Caught the game winning 31 yard TD pass to advance to the NCAA semi finals in 2006
  • He led his team in catches his junior and senior seasons
  • He has 6 siblings
  • His father and uncle were both football players

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You never know-

he has the tools. Now we can see if he can put it together.

"They say statistics are for losers, but losers are usually the ones thinking that. . . . Everything we do is analyzed. Is that the bottom line? No. You can't analyze the heart of Tim Tebow." - Urban Meyer

by GatorPhan on Jan 26, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

i respect that but dont expect an Andre Johnson out of him. We HAVE to get a legit #1 receiver.

like i said in another post, taking a chance in the draft in the first 3 rounds has proven to be very worthy, just ask the Broncos about Brandon Marshall.

by MauMontaV5 on Jan 27, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

exactly

But worse case scenario is that he is a very good backup, he’s a low risk, high reward guy.
Still I’d rather have us draft a WR>

"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"

-From the Unforgiven III off of Death Magnetic

by Patssuck456 on Jan 28, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

gator phan,

you are in a league of your own with these posts. lol so many stats,,,, so many

El Peezy... "the Calvin Johnson of rookies.. instant impact" -Prime Time
"el peezy strikes fear in opponent bloggers hearts" -finsx

by el presidente 00 on Jan 26, 2009 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

Hey-

nobody reads my non stat posts- I’m just following the democratic process :p

"They say statistics are for losers, but losers are usually the ones thinking that. . . . Everything we do is analyzed. Is that the bottom line? No. You can't analyze the heart of Tim Tebow." - Urban Meyer

by GatorPhan on Jan 26, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

well keep doin what your doin. its good stuff man

El Peezy... "the Calvin Johnson of rookies.. instant impact" -Prime Time
"el peezy strikes fear in opponent bloggers hearts" -finsx

by el presidente 00 on Jan 26, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

As a Umass Alum who was at every home game of London’s last two seasons and the Championship game in 06’, I’m pretty confident London will be worth every penny. He was always making the game changing plays in the passing game (i.e. that nice 3rd down catch vs the Jets). The trip to the 06 championship doesn’t happen without London.

Oh, and that 31 yard game winning TD to beat rival UNH in the playoffs looks nice on paper, but it looked even better in real life. He fought through 2 defenders at the 5 yardline to dive into the endzone. Wish i could post a picture, but the best I can do is send you here:
http://umassathletics.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/gallery_index_2006-07.html#
scroll to pictures # 58 and 59.

Don’t forget, Marques Colston played in the very same conference at Hofstra…

by Fainting Goats on Jan 26, 2009 11:32 PM EST reply actions  

Love the input-

nothing is better than watching the players up close- I appreciate the comments.

"They say statistics are for losers, but losers are usually the ones thinking that. . . . Everything we do is analyzed. Is that the bottom line? No. You can't analyze the heart of Tim Tebow." - Urban Meyer

by GatorPhan on Jan 26, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

London was senior my freshman year here at UMass, and he pwned souls. Of course, he’s no Steve Baylark…

"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt

by Daniel52 on Jan 27, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Baylark! Baylark! Baylark!

Maybe Edge will get shipped out in Arizona and Baylark will get promoted from the practice squad next year…

by Fainting Goats on Jan 27, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

now would you say

that by signing up london to an extension decreases the chance of taking a WR day 1 of the draft or even at all?

by fishstick on Jan 26, 2009 11:46 PM EST reply actions  

Decrease- yes

Eliminate? No- his contract will probably not be so large that he ‘has’ to be on the field, or even that he couldn’t be cut at some point. If during the course of their scouting, the Trifecta find a once in a lifetime WR they would probably take him- we have so many needs it makes sense to draft the best player available instead of just sticking to a position anyways. But it is a sign of faith in him- so we’ll see.

"They say statistics are for losers, but losers are usually the ones thinking that. . . . Everything we do is analyzed. Is that the bottom line? No. You can't analyze the heart of Tim Tebow." - Urban Meyer

by GatorPhan on Jan 26, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

i didnt mean contractually

i meant, is this a sign that maybe the receiver we are all trying to find in the upcoming draft, the trifecta believes they have on the roster already. i’m just not sure exactly what this move means for the future at the position. maybe they are gearing for camarillo to drop off? maybe wilford will be gone soon? just seeking perspective.

by fishstick on Jan 26, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it means they

believe he could be- my point about the contract size is that it is a sign of confidence without betting the whole farm if they are wrong. He has a totally different skill set from Camarillo so I don’t see it as related to that. I would however, bet that Wilford is gone unless he has an out of this world off season.

"They say statistics are for losers, but losers are usually the ones thinking that. . . . Everything we do is analyzed. Is that the bottom line? No. You can't analyze the heart of Tim Tebow." - Urban Meyer

by GatorPhan on Jan 27, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

IMO

I think it means that they are doing what they normally do.. Build up enough resources that they give the team more options, we develop them and see what happens but it never hurts to get a guy in the first day. Someone with great upside but still a good price.

by esco6781 on Jan 30, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

As the proud owner of the BrandWagon

I’m very happy with this move. He definitely passes the eyeball test physically, and he’s shown that he’s willing to work and do whatever it takes to get on the field, coming from PS in the beginning of the year to playing in key situations down the stretch.

I look at some of the things he’s done for this team and how they translate to him being a solid WR. He’s the gunner on the Punt Team, meaning he’s able to beat a jam (2 guys usually jam the gunner) and has very good quickness off the line. He’s also able to outrun his blockers and get downfield on the punt, showing good enough game speed to be effective. He’s got the height, length, and body size you want in a possession WR. He’s a good downfield blocker, with the most notable example being his springing block for Cobbs’ 80 yd Screen Pass TD vs Houston. And he has good hands. There was a catch, I forget vs who, where he went on a fade route, dove backwards, and snagged it horizontal to the ground. Unfortunately, it was thrown too far for him to get his feet down, but that catch showed some very good ball skills regardless. Also, the catch vs the Jets on a crucial third down, diving and using his body to shield the defender while making the grab.

The biggest thing with him will be the mental aspect. And I can’t see him getting better coaching anywhere else in the league. If he has it in him, this coaching staff will get it out.

I think we may have a gem on our hands. I thought it all year, and I’m very pleased that we are keeping him.

Oh, and great job as usually McShay.

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 27, 2009 12:02 AM EST reply actions  

Not to be picky, nicky... :^)

…you may have named the BrandWagon, but I am pretty sure I put the wheels on it.

From my FP from Oct 17th, way before he caught any passes for the Fins:
Brandon London making up ground

So…. does anyone else see this as a potential “ace in the hole” in the second half of the season? I, personally, am excited by the prospect that we might have a real “sleeper” on our roster that could become the next Marques Colston.

and in the comments section:

I can’t wait to see him make a catch on offense, period! :)

We know he will be in when they play a 4 wide spread, but I would not be surprised to see him in as #3 in the RZ, or even as the slot guy in Wildcat.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 17, 2008 1:10 PM PDT
He is faster than Hagan or Wilford.

I think he has good long speed like Ginn, but I don’t know about his short speed. The fact that he seems tp separate on STs plays is a good sign.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 17, 2008 1:08 PM PDT
I’m tellin ya, if the kid turns out to be able to catch…

The fins deep aerial assault will consist of bombing London.

:)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 17, 2008 1:16 PM PDT

and lastly, some additional info (note the faster 40 time):

A little more detail on London from the draft

From NFL Draft Prospect Interview: Brandon London, WR, UMass

There are two things you can’t coach in football: height and speed. Brandon London has both. His tall stature and quick speed have NFL scouts noticing him. London has very solid hands to go with his height and speed. He also has a solid football pedigree. His father played college at Richmond and now is the defensive coordinator for the University of Virginia, while his uncle played at Virginia. London finished his college career with 148 receptions, 2022 receiving yards, and 15 touchdown receptions.
 
Height – 6’4.4"
Weight – 215
Forty time – 4.47

 

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 17, 2008 3:45 PM PDT

So, consider me still on board. I love the kid and believe that he might actually be able to be a #1 WR. Word from Giants camp last year was that he might have actually outplayed Sinorice Moss, but Moss got the WR slot by virtue of his draft position (2nd round).

Nice post Gatorphan! :)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 27, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

London has to bulk up...

Before we crown this STs guy as the next coming of Plaxico Burress or Brandon Marshall…he needs to add bulk to his frame and 10 LBS.

If he can do this, (and he sounds willing to get started by his interview), then I can see him being used the way they expected to use Ernest Wilford.

I believe this would be a good thing too. And I believe that they will be gauging his workout program and his progress before making that final decision about what type of WR they take in the draft, if any.

If he bulks up and gains weight, then I can still see them going for a Pat White in the 4th round to backup TEdd Ginn Jr as the speedster.

by mred on Jan 27, 2009 1:06 AM EST reply actions  

He's 215.

220 would be perfect for him. He doesn’t need to be a physical freak like Burress or Marshall, all we want out of him is to be a reliable target.

Just for some perspective:
Larry Fitzgerald is 220.
Muhsin Muhammed is 215.
Keyshawn Johnson was 210

So yeah it’d be great for him to be 230 like Plax or Brandon Marshall, but I think putting on 5 lbs of muscle would be sufficient for this guy, considering his build. He won’t be a monster like Marshall is, but he’s got the tools to be a big target for our QB to find.

( BTW, I’m not comparing him to any of those guys in anything except similar heights and weights.)

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 27, 2009 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully

he makes the Giants regret not signing him to their active roster. I bet they really wish they had him now with all the trouble Plaxico Burress is in…

by JMFlyer1454 on Jan 27, 2009 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

What does this all mean?

Does he pass the eye ball test? ….. check
Does he have the proper attitude? …… check
Is he on his way up? ….. check

Right after the season was over for the Giants it came up numerous times how upset they were that he was picked up by the Dolphins as reported by Adam Schefter of the NFL network. This could turn our WR group into a strength for seasons to come if he can turn into a legitmite threat, he has everything you want in size and speed and now he gets the oppourtunity to make plays and as all young WR he will get better in a full offseaon training and learning this offense.

What does this mean for Camarillo? Do you think this means we don’t draft a WR?

by markus_13 on Jan 27, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

I have said for a while that i personally don't see us drafting a WR early.

i think WR would be one of the last pieces, and we have too many other needs to fill first. If we can pick up a FA, or develop a guy along the way, so much the better.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 27, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

NFL dot com quality

I mean this is a great article. Even the writing as well as the quantity has improved on this site.

Nice Matty.

by Corroncho on Jan 27, 2009 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

hahahahahhahahahahaha...unintentional SLAPPPPPPPPPP?

Matty didnt write this……..

Yea yea Gators fan….i didnt see the name of his dog anywhere dude, WTF?

haha….good article….

hey I am requesting ur change ur name to “Roboblog”…it fits better and I wont have to read that “g-word” everytime I see ur posts.

"Worst 2 First"...Your 2008 AFC East Champion Miami Dolphins

by Rzayo24 on Jan 27, 2009 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I will do it-

but only on the condition that Matty grant me special permission to make my signature a web browser filling picture of Tim Tebow.

"They say statistics are for losers, but losers are usually the ones thinking that. . . . Everything we do is analyzed. Is that the bottom line? No. You can't analyze the heart of Tim Tebow." - Urban Meyer

by GatorPhan on Jan 27, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

haha....nice sig

god i hate Tim Tebow…but id like him on my team…any team…..friggin math team i dont care

"Worst 2 First"...Your 2008 AFC East Champion Miami Dolphins

by Rzayo24 on Jan 27, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

i think this kids gonna be a star. everytime he has gotten on the field, he has shined. he has a great attitude and that swagger about him to make him a probowler. he is not selfish and never gives up on plays. (he did run down ed reed and strip the ball, even though he was about a second late). with CP10 breaking down film and helping him improve his route running, he will have a 1000 yard season in 2010

by scbrandon on Jan 27, 2009 8:23 PM EST reply actions  

Fact of the matter is

That although Pennington was the biggest difference maker in 08’…His lack of arm strength limits our passing game. Fitzgerald, Marshall, Or Johnson would not copy their statisics with cp10.. IM SORRY Give more credit to ANDRE Johnson because he lacks a consistent QB. But Succesfull WR’s have gun slingers for QB.

BOLDIN’S (RAC) can compliment Cp10 Smarts but lack of arm strength, allowing GINN to become deep threat we prayed he would become when drafted. I believe he can. He needs someone to look uo to. I believe Boldin is the Guy.. He helped Fitzgerald become the player he is. That’s why Fitz is willing to reconstuct to help Quan make more money.

Quan’s experience at QB will allow addition to wild cardinal on the menu

by winninugly on Feb 1, 2009 11:40 AM EST reply actions  

nice post

well said. I agree with you, but i don’t believe we will get Boldin.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Feb 5, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

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