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Ask The Phinsider: Draft Edition

Last week I mentioned that I received a couple of questions in my e-mail about which players I hope the Dolphins go after this offseason.  I answered the question about free agency last Friday.  Today, let me quickly touch on the NFL Draft.

Q: I've seen you talk a little bit about some of the players you like in April's draft.  In particular, I know you say you really like Kenny Britt.  But who else out there excites you?  If you got to make the call, which players would you draft and bring to Miami?

A: Right now, understand that it's very early.  And two things, specifically, make this difficult to really answer.  First, free agency hasn't begun.  So it's hard to tell where the biggest holes are right now on the roster.  And the Dolphins still have 5 key players who are unsigned and could very well leave in free agency.  For example, if the Dolphins don't re-sign Vernon Carey, then the tackle position becomes a top priority.  But if the Dolphins and Carey come to terms, then the Dolphins don't necessarily need to spend a first day pick on a tackle.

And secondly, the Combine hasn't even taken place.  So it's hard to gauge which players may or may not be around when it comes time for the Dolphins to pick.  Last year, it was much easier to discuss because Miami had the 1st overall pick and the 32nd overall pick.  This year, it's not so easy.

With that said, let me first address Kenny Britt.  Yes, I think he's going to make an outstanding receiver at this next level.  He's got good size (6'4, 215) and is a physical receiver who goes up and gets the football.  How high he's drafted, though, might depend a lot on how fast he runs at the Combine.  I'd suspect he'll run somewhere between 4.5 and 4.55.

But Britt shouldn't be - and likely won't be - a 1st round possibility for the Dolphins.  While it would be nice to get a receiver like Britt, I just thinl there are more pressing needs to spend that 25th overall pick on.  But make no mistake about it - Britt is very much on Miami's radar.  They had scouts attend at least 2 of Britt's Rutgers games and Bill Parcells is known to like "Jersey players."  And even the Sun-Sentinel's Harvey Fialkov thinks Britt would make an ideal fit in Miami, saying, "Britt sounds like he's made for a Parcells offense.  He loves that size.  If Britt's still around, he'd be a perfect second-round pick."

And that's just it - a 2nd round pick.  But will Britt fall to Miami's 1st second round pick, the 44th overall pick?  Maybe - it's too soon to tell.

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I also spoke earlier this week about Western Michigan safety Louis Delmas.  The Dolphins were seen speaking with Delmas at the Senior Bowl and I'd love to see Delmas in Miami.  He's got good, but not great, speed.  However, he'd make a terrific "center fielder" thanks to his ability to read and react and his terrific football IQ.  And the fact that he's also effective in run support makes Delmas an intriguing prosepct.  This week during Senior Bowl practice, reports indicate that Delmas is even outplaying fellow senior safety Williams Moore.  If this continues, it could very well raise Delmas' stock into the first round.  And you have to wonder if the Dolphins - especially with the likely scenario of the top free safety in free agency, O.J. Atogwe, getting either signed to a long-term deal with the Rams or being "franchised" - would be willing to take a safety in the first round.

So which of the likely first rounders do I hope the Dolphins take with pick #25?  My ideal scenario would be for Boston College defensive tackle B.J. Raji to fall.  But I'm not holding my breath.  Perhaps his teammate, DT Ron Brace, will be an option in round 2 for the Dolphins.  Both will make very good nose tackles in the NFL.

A lot of people like the idea of taking USC outside linebacke Brian Cushing.  But I don't if this regime wants to take a player who has durability concerns.  We all know that the trifecta likes players who play week in and week out.  If the Dolphins were going to go with a pass-rushing OLB, I'd love for Penn State's Aaron Maybin to fall all the way to 25.  But, again, it isn't likely.

One OLB that could be available in round 1 is Virginia's Clint Sintim.  And if the Dolphins were going to go with a pass-rusher at 25, Sintim would be an ideal fit.  He's got the size and speed combination that this regime likes.  And he's spent his college years playing OLB in a 3-4 defense at Vrigina - something very rare for a college linebacker.  So he knows the basic fundamentals of playing the position and would be less of a risk than trying to convert, for example, a college DE to OLB.  For more on Sintim, I suggest checking out GatorPhan's post about him.

Sticking with the defensive side of the ball for one more second, cornerback is another area in need of an upgrade.  But Malcolm Jenkins and Vontae Davis are expected to be long gone by #25.  However, at least one of these two - Vanderbilt's D.J. Moore and Wake Forest's Alphonso Smith - will likely be on the board.  Both would be solid picks.  But the depth at cornerback is relatively decent and the Dolphins could easily decide to pass on a corner in round one in hopes of landing Macho Harris or Darius Butler in round 2.

And that brings me to the offensive side of the ball.  In particular, the offensive line.  We know the Dolphins want to get bigger and stronger along the interiot line.  And if they feel that strongly, perhaps Oklahoma's Duke Robinson is their man.  At 6'5, 335, "The Duke" would make an ideal fit at guard for the Dolphins.  But they could very well decide to pass on Robinson and wait until round two in hopes of nabbing Oregon State's Andy Levitre later on - a player it's rumored the Dolphins have interest in early on.  Levitre, though, isn't as big (6'3, 317) or athletic as Robinson.

Then, of course, you got the monster center who many are raving about - Cal's Alex Mack.  He meets the trifecta's size requirement at center (6'4, 316) but is really just as athletic as the smaller Samson Satele.  And, right now, he might very well be #1 on my realistic wish list for April's draft.

So those are some of my early - very early, draft thoughts.  And in the coming weeks, look for more in-depth reports on some of Miami's potential 1st round options - including, hopefully, scouting reports from people who have seen them play every single week.

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Herman Johnson

Born 15 lbs. I want this guy next to Jake Long on third and short. 6’7" 370

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fYdHoE_0kk

by gophish on Jan 23, 2009 1:03 AM EST reply actions  

Hes far too huge

Yeah hes a beast but that size hinders his ability alot, he needs to lose about 20 or so pounds. He has all the talent and ability in the world but if hes going to be an every down player he needs to get slim.

by yboord028 on Jan 23, 2009 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

OSCP

Shall we say Sparano’s off season conditioning program?

by gophish on Jan 23, 2009 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

NT

This is the guy we should draft in the 1st round (from NFL.com):

"For teams with 3-4 defenses, USC’s Fili Moala looks like a perfect “five-technique" player. He has room for growth in his big frame (6-4, 303) and the long arms to lock up on an offensive tackle and control the line of scrimmage. He’s the cousin of Haloti Ngata, who lines up at nose tackle, or five technique, for the Ravens. Moala is versatile and brings the height that teams such as the Dolphins, Browns, Patriots, Steelers and now the Packers are looking for with their defense.”

I posted this late on the NT section…

Herman in the 2nd and this dude in the 1st. Where the beef?

by gophish on Jan 23, 2009 1:08 AM EST reply actions  

Second round?

I like the sounds of Moala as well .. I don’t see him going in the first round. I hope he sticks around for either of our second round picks.

by markus_13 on Jan 23, 2009 3:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you know what a 5 technique is?

A player who is a perfect 5 technique in a 3-4 does nto translate to got NT. Before I give the definition I want to know if you know what the 5 is.

The Patriots Suck

by k2oconnor on Jan 23, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Wish we could edit our posts

A player who is a perfect 5 technique in a 3-4 does not translate to good NT. Before I give the definition I want to know if you know what the 5 is.

The Patriots Suck

by k2oconnor on Jan 23, 2009 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I Dont know

tell us already

"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"

-From the Unforgiven III off of Death Magnetic

by Patssuck456 on Jan 25, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Q for Matty I

Would you say you are for the “best talent available” or “team needs” draft philosophy?

by gophish on Jan 23, 2009 1:57 AM EST reply actions  

I know I am not Matty

But at #25 you have to take best player available, and could get burned on going after need. What this means is you take the player you have highest on your board. The Fins run a 3-4 def and would not take a 4-3 DT even if Mel Kiper has him listed high, or they won’t take Cushing if they do not like his injury history. Also if you have Jake Long at LT and lock up the RT with either Carey or a FA, the Fins will not draft an OT.

The Patriots Suck

by k2oconnor on Jan 23, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm for a combination of the two.

But there aren’t too many spots that the Dolphins can’t upgrade. So I’m probably leaning more towards taking the highest player on their board – regardless of position.

by Matty I on Jan 23, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

i like it when matty talks about britt makes me warm and fuzzy inside knowing someone else believes like i do

GO MATTY!!!

Enough is enough...we need Natalya back. I believe in John Beck and that LCFF is a big ass loser.
Official Leader of the Draft Kenny Britt Bandwagon

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Check it out.

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by finsxfactor on Jan 23, 2009 2:05 AM EST reply actions  

Matty

You have to be careful making FXF feel warm and fuzzy. That can only lead to bad things for you…

"The dolphin is one of the fastest and smartest creatures of the sea. Dolphins can attack and kill a shark or whale. Sailors say bad luck will come to anyone who harms one of them." - Joe Robbie, Oct 8, 1965 upon announcing the name of the new AFL Miami football team.
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by Kevin Nogle on Jan 23, 2009 6:01 AM EST up reply actions  

mosul = back and me = happy to hear it

Enough is enough...we need Natalya back. I believe in John Beck and that LCFF is a big ass loser.
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Check it out.

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by finsxfactor on Jan 23, 2009 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL

"The dolphin is one of the fastest and smartest creatures of the sea. Dolphins can attack and kill a shark or whale. Sailors say bad luck will come to anyone who harms one of them." - Joe Robbie, Oct 8, 1965 upon announcing the name of the new AFL Miami football team.
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by Kevin Nogle on Jan 23, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

This will really make you pop one

Kenny Britt is rumored to run a high 4.4 in the 40. However we all know how some of this translates to the combine.

A quick note on the combine, it is great to see how players measure up with the drills, but in many cases it does not translate into actual play on the field.
Vernon Gholtson, verdicts still out, worked out extremely well and was not even active for many games.
Steve Slaton ran a high 4.6 low 4.7 and look what he did.
Tom Brady had weak arm strength and adequate accuracy… enough said

If a player can ball at an elite level in college and B***h CB’s a Britt did, if used right the player will continue to play well in the Pros.

The Patriots Suck

by k2oconnor on Jan 23, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Good breakdown Matty

I think Mack makes sense. If we can pull off Mack in the first, Harris and Britt in the second, life would be great! I like Satele, and I think he can still develop into a decent center, but someone as big as Mack, with the NTs in the AFC, and espceially the AFC East, a big center makes sense.

If we can move Satele and have him as a (pulling) guard, I think that improves his ability as well.

"The dolphin is one of the fastest and smartest creatures of the sea. Dolphins can attack and kill a shark or whale. Sailors say bad luck will come to anyone who harms one of them." - Joe Robbie, Oct 8, 1965 upon announcing the name of the new AFL Miami football team.
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by Kevin Nogle on Jan 23, 2009 6:03 AM EST reply actions  

especially*

"The dolphin is one of the fastest and smartest creatures of the sea. Dolphins can attack and kill a shark or whale. Sailors say bad luck will come to anyone who harms one of them." - Joe Robbie, Oct 8, 1965 upon announcing the name of the new AFL Miami football team.
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by Kevin Nogle on Jan 23, 2009 6:04 AM EST up reply actions  

satele to guard?

if we draft a center does satele go to guard? i’d hate to see that big azz simoan on the bench

by frostyphinfan on Jan 23, 2009 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

Very nice read!

Im just gonna throw some names out to add to the players you mentioned…
I like what I have seen from these guys and think they would be possible selections for us.

Larry English 6’3’’ 255lbs DE/OLB N. Illinois Currently-2nd round grade.
- Senior Bowl should tell us a lot about him.

Max Unger 6’5’’ 300lbs C Oregon Currently-2nd round grade.
- Very Versatile and very strong. Has room to add bulk.

Everette Brown 6’4’’ 252lbs DE/OLB FSU Currently-1st round grade
- Sack Master, very fast. Im sure he will be gone by the time we pick in round 1 but if he isnt he is worth a serious look.

by Madman29 on Jan 23, 2009 7:01 PM EST reply actions  

just read this when I was

trying to find info on the Senior Bowl. Look what it says regarding English. Kind of interesting.

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by HuskerDolphin on Jan 23, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah hes a very interesting prospect

Like I said the Senior bowl should show us a lot about him. He didnt play against very good competition in college so this will tell us if he can perform well against some of the best players in college.

by Madman29 on Jan 23, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Free agenty safety? Maybe

I was on prosportsdaily.com recently, and I read an interview where Jeff Ireland says he will not stray from his roots and dive into scouting head first. he goes on to say about its what has put him on the map and made him successful. After reading some more he talks about the key free agents we have. He also goes on to say that he is focuesed on searching talent under every rock, whether it be free agency or the draft. The reason I wanted to add this article is the fact that he mentions that he would like to team to get younger but if it means adding someone who is 31 to improve the team then so be it. I found it interesting. You think they may try to make a push for any of these older guys for leadership purposes in the secondary?

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/other/sfl-flspdolphins22sbjan22,0,194729.story

by esco6781 on Jan 24, 2009 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

good link

you can watch Ireland’s interview at the team website, and it contains all those soundbites in full context. The question posed to him was whether he’s looking to get younger in the secondary because all 4 starters are 30+, and he responded by saying he just wants good football players and if those guys are 30, 31, than that’s what’ll happen. I think he was referring to re-signing all our players instead of replacing them because of age. I really doubt we go looking for more 30+ players. He may say publically that age isn’t an issue with negotiations and personnel, but the Parcells MO isn’t bringing in aging FA’s, it’s going through the draft to get younger and more talented. I think that will trump the short-sighted vision of getting veterans and making a run next season.

"Are we doing this? Is this happening?"

by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 24, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I concur

thats the way I understood it as well. Sounds like all of our FA’s are going to test the market, and according to what I’ve read, this is just the first stages of talks and the offer/counter offer game.

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by HuskerDolphin on Jan 24, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

OMG Herman Johnson!

He is so huge it’s crazy, he looks like Andre the Giant out there!

by phranchise on Jan 26, 2009 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

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