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Headlines from Dolphins/Jets Game

New season, same result.  Right?

Wrong.  There was something different about this loss.  Over the last couple of years, when the Dolphins were down by 13 or so points with 9 minutes left, they would simply roll over and wait for the game to end.  But this was different - which is probably why this loss is very hard to take even though I didn't expect the Dolphins to win.  But when you get so close to pulling off what would have been a remarkable comeback, it's hard to swallow. 

But let's get to the game's headlines anyway:

OFFENSIVE LINE STRUGGLES
This was an issue all game long.  The offensive line, a unit that many fans were excited about, played like crap.  In fact, they may have played worse than the unit we had last season.  They failed to open up any running lanes for Ronnie and Ricky and they couldn't seem to keep Chad Pennington upright.  Pennington was under constant pressure.  Yes, some of it was the playcalling (which we'll get to in a little), but even still, I was disappointed.

However, this is a very young group and is a group that has only one player playing in the same spot they played last season.  So they are going to take time to gel.  By November, this offensive line will be playing much better than it is now.  And as far as Jake Long goes, yes he clearly struggled.  He had those 2 bad penalties that negated first downs and was owned for most of the game by Calvin Pace.  But he'll get better.  He's one player I'm not worried about at all.

DESPITE EARLY STRUGGLES, PENNINGTON HAS SOLID GAME
One thing that boggles my mind is how Dolphin fans can be criticizing Chad Pennington.  Yes, he struggled early and missed on some open throws.  Chalk that up to nerves, I'd say.  Because he settled in nicely and without him, this team doesn't almost pull of the upset.  He made some remarkable throws - the TD pass to David Martin comes to mind.  And while I agree that Pennington should have just thrown that ball away rather than into the arms of Darrelle Revis to end the game (remember, it was only 3rd down - still had one more play if he throws it away), there's no way you can really put any blame for this loss on Pennington's shoulders.  He was all heart out there and I look forward to the rest of the season with Pennington as our leader and QB.

QUESTIONABLE COACHING
So here it is.  I might get flamed here, but I have to say that there were a number of decisions made by this coaching staff on Sunday that I can't help but question.  First off, I highly disagree with the decision to have Ernest Wilford inactive for this game.  He's at least a good blocker and is a huge target in the redzone.  Think we could have used him at times today?  I know it's easy for me to say now, but there was no need to have a guy like Brandon London active for this game and Wilford on the bench.  I bet we see him at least active next week.

Gripe #2:  play-calling.  Specifically, when the Dolphins had 3rd & goal from the 2 and 4th & goal from the 2.  How is one of those plays not a run?  Seriously.  Two yards...just 2 damn yards.  Sure, the running game was struggling because the line was getting no push and failed to open up any holes.  But at least let Ricky or Ronnie get a shot on 3rd down rather than throwing a fade pass to the 5-foot-9 Davone Bess.

Gripe #3:  return men.  I'm sorry, but Ted Ginn has to be out there for all kick and punt returns.  It's not like he was overly active in the passing game to begin with.  And he's too good of a returner to not use him.  He could be an X-factor that this team has never had.

Gripe #4:  3rd down back.  It's totally wrong to not have Ronnie Brown out there on 3rd down.  What can Patrick Cobbs do that Ronnie can't?  He's a better blocker and is probably the best pass-catcher on the roster (or close to it, at least).  This is a total misuse of personnel.  Ronnie has got to be out there on 3rd downs.

Gripe #5:  empty backfield.  No more friggin' empty backfield sets.  It's clear to everyone that the offensive line isn't ready to handle those situations.  Not too mention the Jets were doing exactly what you are supposed to against empty sets:  blitzing the house.  But despite the repeated pressure, the Dolphins continued to use these sets.  And the Jets continued to send 6 or 7 players - meaning there was always a blitzer who was unaccounted for.  Enough is enough there.

Star-divide

SECONDARY WOES
Outside of Will Allen and Yeremiah Bell, this secondary isn't very good.  Andre Goodman was beat often, including that long TD pass to Jerricho Cotchery.  And Renaldo Hill was the guy to be blamed on that unspeakably lucky 4th down hail mary pass that Chansi Stuckey caught for a TD.  When Favre looked to be in the grasp of Randy Starks, Hill seemed to just stop running, even possibly running towards the line of scrimmage to chase down Brett or something.  He left Stuckey all along at the goalline and nobody else in the secondary could react quick enough to break up that play.  Truly sickening stuff.

But more than just those 2 plays, too often there were men open in the secondary.  I think I only counted 2 plays where anyone batted down a pass.  Passing lanes were wide open and Brett Favre took advantage, especially on 3rd down.

ARE THERE ANY RECEIVERS ALIVE OUT THERE?
Chad Pennington completed 26 passes on Sunday.  Six were to wide receivers.  Totally unacceptable.

It seemed like no receivers at all, even when Pennington had time, could get open for Chad.  Darrelle Revis owned Ted Ginn all game long (minus the one 4th down conversion to Teddy).  Derek Hagan might as well have just sat down at the line of scrimmage rather than run routes - it still would have been the same result.  This is clearly the weakest part of the team and if this unit doesn't improve - especially Teddy Ginn - then this offense will play like crap all year.

RONNIE BROWN SHOULD START
This is another thought that might get be flamed, but here it goes:  Ronnie Brown is better than Ricky Williams.  I repeat: Ronne > Ricky.

He looked quicker through the line, had better vision, and is a better receiver.  So it should be Brown who is the starting running back from here on out.  He's the player who deserves to be on the 60 end of the 60/40 RB split.  His knee looks healthy.  His thumb is a non-issue when catching the ball.  He has to be out there from the beginning.  He's the kind of back that gets better with the more carries he gets.  We saw that last season and, really, he's always been that way.  As much as I love Ricky, he needs to be the backup here.  Luckily, he likely won't care what his role is.  So let Ronnie start.

And regardless of who starts, if we can only get 2.9 yards per carry from these 2 RBs, then this team won't win a damn game.  The offensive line has to give these guys some running room.

QUICK HITS
-The inexperience of Dan Carpenter and Brandon Fields showed.  Carpenter had some terrible looking kick-offs and Fields, besides shanking one punt for just 9 yards, had too many line drives- providing the Jets with return opportunities.  At least the coverage was decent, though, saving Fields' ass a couple of times.

-David Martin catching passes left and right?  Is this the same guy we saw last season?  Well done, sir.

-Same to you, Mr. Anthony Fasano.  What a deal by this regime to get Fasano and Akin Ayodele for just a 4th round pick.

-These Dolphin linebackers cannot cover tight ends.  That's going to be a problem.

-Andre Goodman's pass-interference call was, technically, a good call by the ref.  But both players were fighting for the ball and the ref could have let it go.  Very "ticky-tack" call.

-The run defense was disappointing.  You can't let Thomas Jones get 100 yards and average over 4.5 ypc.

-Kendall Langford and Phillip Merling looked good out there at times - especially Langford.  I can't wait to see how these 2 develop week in and week out.

-Wasted timeouts kill you.  And we saw that today, when the Dolphins had to waste 2 timeouts in the 2nd half (one because Ronnie went in motion the wrong way).  Think they could have used those 2 extra timeouts during that last drive?

CLOSING THOUGHT
It was a tough loss to swallow, but here's the thing: the effort was there.  The Dolphins played a full 4 quarters of intense football.  They never gave up.  As Pennington said after the game, the team talked about "when adversity strikes, don't blink."  They certainly didn't blink.

And remember this:  as bad as the Dolphins played at times on Sunday against a good Jets' team, the offense had the ball in their hands with 1:43 left in the game with a chance to win the game.  That's all you can ask for. 

I look for improvement from here on out.

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You're right on the money

with your points on the coaching decisions for this game.

by FinsNation on Sep 8, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Matty wrong?

Uhh I think it was Bell, unfortunately, that blew the coverage in the XLII play Manning to Tyree imitation. I watched it on replay on the highlights a couple times as well highlighting Bell running to the line of scrimmage right before the ball is thrown.
I don’t think we covered Leon Washington on punt returns too well. I’d say they averaged their starting field position at the 37 yard line.
I don’t know why we didn’t throw the ball to Ronnie more often.
I definitely agree Ronnie should start.
I like using Tight ends, it’s just that the WR won’t make the plays we need. I say whatever it takes to get things done (using the tight ends and RBs to get down the field) It’s not like we have very good WR.
I don’t really know what you mean about the Tight ends. I only remember hearing Keller’s name once.
I too question play calling. How can’t we get into the endzone on a 1st and goal. That is unacceptable. I think we should have done what the Panthers did. Except since we didn’t have the time out just throw and out route to the sidelines with 13 seconds left. Who knows we may have had time for 2 extra plays if we got a 1st down with that.

I guess I should have thought twice before creating my profile's name.

by Beck4Mercy on Sep 8, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no it was Hill

NFL Network had him mis-labeled. They highlight him and the graphic on the screen says Bell, but it was #24 – Renaldo Hill.

by Matty I on Sep 8, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TEs

Chris Baker had 2 big receptions I remember…and I think Bubba Franks had 1

by Matty I on Sep 8, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

matty is there a way to appeal a warning?

btw….ronnie showed burst….ricky was complimentary to ronnie in 2005 so continue that tradition…ted ginn needs to be given oppurtunites…(kick returns, punt return, and screens)

reverses dont work unless YOU ARE GETTING YARDAGE IN THE RUN GAME!!!!!!

pennington is the man…and to people blaming chad pennington…name 1 qb in the past 5 years that would have gotten us to that spot?….take all the time you want i’ll wait…

Ice Ice Baby

by finsxfactor on Sep 8, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

appeal

you can send me an e-mail and beg me

; )

by Matty I on Sep 8, 2008 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

beg?

i admit i over-indulged on the f-bombs…but in my defense i get emotional when we win or lose..

Ice Ice Baby

by finsxfactor on Sep 8, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you still can't drop f-bombs left and right

one or two are OK. and you can’t call people @ssholes because you disagree with their point of view.

by Matty I on Sep 8, 2008 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my bad

you called someone an idiot for no apparent reason.

by Matty I on Sep 8, 2008 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The dude said we should put in Henne.

In his defense, I thought it was a pretty valid reason to call him an idiot.

by joel311 on Sep 8, 2008 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pennigton is not the only one...

miami was down 31-14 in the week 3 game vs the jets last year…miami almost came back and won the game with trent green throwing the ball

my brother is a dolphins fan, and he said he cant remember the last time he fell asleep during a game cause the offense was so bland and boring…and i dont blame him….the playbook is soooo limited with pennington in, cause his weak arm…there are only so many pass plays that you can run…the box can be stuffed cause defenses know that pennington is not going to beat anyone with his squirt gun arm…if miami is 0-3 at the bye week, henne has to be considered to start in week 5…look at what the other rookie quarterbacks did today

by Valbon8 on Sep 8, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont think the playbook is limited b/c of chad...

its b/c we dont have any good receivers. Our best receiver wouldnt even start as a third WR option on a lot of other teams out there.

by JeffT on Sep 8, 2008 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cmon finsxfactor!!!

Take it like a man : P
Is just a warning.
STOP the crying, for crying out loud ; )

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Sep 8, 2008 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matty I will never banned you!!

Hey Matty I, went those warning are gone?
like in 1 month?

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Sep 8, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh no

they stay with you forever, buddy!

And it will take a lot to get banned, but dropping f-bombs left and right (no matter how emotional you are after a game) is a good way to do it.

by Matty I on Sep 8, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THERE YOU HAVE IT finsxfactor

STOP!! dropping f-bombs and star shooting fire crakers ; )

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Sep 8, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phatty says "let it slide"

I have been on the receiving side of a X-factor outburst. If his posts were gone, I’d miss it. Funny guy. . .Sort of like that crazy uncle that yells at the neighborhood kids that through his trailer park.

Phatfinfan

by phatfinfan on Sep 8, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THANK YOU!!

Watching the game today, I made almost the exact same comments to my friends. Particularly the 3rd and goal from the 2, and the empty backfield sets.

If you know you want to go for it on fourth, and you need two yards…why not run BOTH times? Instead we pass twice…

Why is it EVER YEAR we have to literally shake the sense into our coachse to utilized Ronnie Brown the way he was meant to be used.

by JeffT on Sep 8, 2008 12:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

kind of reminded me of that eagles dolphins game last year

beckarooni led us down the field then cam cam decided to be tricky and do a bonehead play…when we could have just plunged it up the middle…apparently tossing it to the outside without any blockers is the best way to win =)

Ice Ice Baby

by finsxfactor on Sep 8, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed on all points

especially the Ronnie > Ricky

by dolfanstanley on Sep 8, 2008 12:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Me too!!

RB can pound the ball better. RW, even made a fumble

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Sep 8, 2008 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a learning curve to being a head coach

so I’m not really too concerned about the coaching aspect. I have faith in Coach Sprano, I’m sure we all do.

During the draft and free agency most of the players that were brought in were lineman, fewer were"skill" position players. I think next year you’ll see this team focus on recievers, corners, safeties, et cetera.

Seriously?

by Daren on Sep 8, 2008 1:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don´t want to hear it

Forget about those learning curve. My learning curve patien for coaches is empty, cam cam used everything last year, so Sparano don´t have any `patiens from me. If The Tuna need to take the elevator and star coaching, them he better do it.

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Sep 8, 2008 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

coaching

~Gripe #2: play-calling. Specifically, when the Dolphins had 3rd & goal from the 2 and 4th & goal from the 2. How is one of those plays not a run? ~

Have to agree with this one, and to take it one step further… with jenkins eat the inside of the line up… why where all the runs to the out side??? (btw: the flea flicker would have been wide open had the line held…)

~Gripe #3: return men. I’m sorry, but Ted Ginn has to be out there for all kick and punt returns. It’s not like he was overly active in the passing game to begin with. And he’s too good of a returner to not use him. He could be an X-factor that this team has never had.~~

seriously – I thought the same thing until I saw Bess take bake the opening kick off and then I remembered what a kick returner is suppose to do - make people miss him - then T Ginn goes down in the 4th? when a jet blows on his shoelace??? Bess should be the return man… he is far more elusive then Ginn.

~Gripe #5: empty backfield. No more friggin’ empty backfield sets. It’s clear to everyone that the offensive line isn’t ready to handle those situations. Not too mention the Jets were doing exactly what you are supposed to against empty sets: blitzing the house. But despite the repeated pressure, the Dolphins continued to use these sets. And the Jets continued to send 6 or 7 players – meaning there was always a blitzer who was unaccounted fo~ eh… thought they were 2 for 3 on the empty back field… getting Ricky to the outside paid dividends…. I wouldn’t run it every play but it looked like it worked for the most part…

~SECONDARY WOES
Outside of Will Allen and Yeremiah Bell, this secondary isn’t very good.~

spot on – except I have to wonder where the heck was J Allen… he showed last year and during preseason – he’s a big play machine (pro/con) (btw: I think crocker was suppose to be deep on the first TD and he jumped the wrong receiver) so if the FS is going to give up big plays… crocker on the first td – hill on the second – you might as well have J Allen flying around – putting a lick on people….

~RONNIE BROWN SHOULD START
This is another thought that might get be flamed, but here it goes: Ronnie Brown is better than Ricky Williams. I repeat: Ronne > Ricky.~~

I won’t go that far… Ricky sure did look a heck of a lot faster then Ronnie…. but Ronnie did show better vision or less discipline out there… taking runs that were suppose to go inside and going to the outside with them where there was some more room….which goes to my gripe… with ricky looking so freakin fast… why the heck didn’t they try to run him outside the tackles some?

~The inexperience of Dan Carpenter and Brandon Fields showed. Carpenter had some terrible looking kick-offs and Fields, besides shanking one punt for just 9 yards, had too many line drives- providing the Jets with return opportunities. At least the coverage was decent, though, saving Fields’ ass a couple of times~

yes and no - I think i’ve been on record saying – me thinks fields sucks? the guy is way to L_O_N_G and when he is pressured in game situations and he shortens things up … BAD thinks happen… really there has to be a better punter on the open market? but carpenter showed some life… dont forget he did have that big touch back in the 2nd half…

couple of other points that you missed

  • where the heck was j porter… yeah i saw him during the pregame mixing it up with a coach but maybe he should save that energy for the game

*Pennington showed why the jets where happy to trade for Favre and let him go… the staff should be setting a target game on when Henne should see some action… cause pennington isn’t anything but a short term solution.

*Where the heck was the challenge on the delay of game penalty!!!! Favre throw to stucky that set up the 3rd TD was at least 2 seconds over… that 0 on the play clock sat on the screen for a long time….

  • what the heck is going to happen in AZ when these guys can’t cover coles & stucky…
  • hate to revisit this but wow the 2007 draft looks worse for the fins… Revis OWNED Ginn… heck T.. should put his pants on the freaking night before the next time he plays the jets, cause revis must have got in them with ted this morning.

**Finally – something you missed Matty … unlike last year the team didn’t die in the 4th quarter… the conditioning seems to be paying off… the jets looked a heck of a lot more tired then the phins in the 4th….

so in reflection it still looks like a 4 win team to me…

by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 8, 2008 2:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have to agree with everything you said except:

Pennington. I think the guy plays pretty well, and has the confidence of the team. He is obviously not the long tern answer, but you can’t fix everything at once and the team needs his stability in there while they are trying to get the Oline and WRs fixed. I liked him in this game, and he certainly wasn’t the reason they lost it.

Can you challenge a “non-penalty” like failing to throw the delay flag? Everyone saw it. I even starting celebrating, thinking it was a done deal. But I am not clear on whether you can challenge that.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2008 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

O-Line

Our young o-line will improve every week and create holes for Ricky and Ronnie. The next time we meet the Jets, the line of scrimmage will be handled much better. Too bad Chad has to have growing pains also (taking hits).

by gophish on Sep 8, 2008 3:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We will get better

no doubt but as poorly as this game was called and with the mistakes that were made,it should’ve been a lot worse.

I couldn’t believe the interference call against Goodman and I sure as hell couldn’t believe the delay of game the ref’s “missed”.

Everyone knew they would try and run it down their throat but Henning did it anyway until Sparano made them open it up some and thats why I felt that they should loosen up the Defense with the passing game FIRST and then run.

I thought the TE’s played very well but the play calling was just horrible,especially the 3rd and goal and 4th and goal but by week 6 they will look MUCH better.

by buttonmashersrhilarious on Sep 8, 2008 6:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Repost

Pennington have a very poor 1st qtr. I also saw our defense give up a ridiculous, and I do mean RIDICULOUS TD on 4th and forever. Also I saw a couple of "questionable" play calls when we were at the Jets 2 (the series we turned the ball over on downs).

Hey listen, I bought into the hype. I still believe this team will win 6-7 games. I’m a fan and I was pulling and hopeing for a win, but lets be realistic.

To say this entire team, including coaching staff, was thrown together over this past offseason I’m pretty proud of them. Not to mention how young we are.

We made ALOT of mistakes but yet we were in a postion to win at the end. Give our young Fins and newly form coaching staff some time to mesh and get some experience and we are gonna be alright.

How many time last year did we score 2 meaning ful TDs in a game last year? I love My Fins and I’m very proud of the effort they put forth.

Are you picking up what I'm putting down?

by Neo on Sep 8, 2008 7:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

PS This man says it all

It’s The Little Things That Kill
 

I suppose there were better things for me to do Sunday afternoon than to watch the Most Frustrating Game In the History of Mankind: build a cool fort out of old styrofoam blocks, rearrange my living room to look like a bus station, bust a nut in my cat’s face, or help my big bosomed neighbor wash her SUV. Instead, I went ahead and watched the game and later regretted it deeply.

It wasn’t just the fact that our offensive line looked as if it were manned by Michael Stipe, Thom York and Moby. Or the fact that Brett Favre pulled that one TD completely out of his ass to a guy whose name was obviously based on a dare (c’mon, Chansi Stuckey!?). It was the little things that got my balls all tied up in knots.

— Jake Long’s two dumb-ass penalties, the offensive line’s flat out refusal to open any day light up for Ricky or Ronnie (2.9 yards per carry? Suck a bag of dicks!), the fact that Andre Goodman exists, the fact that our linebackers look like a gang of retard midgets when they try to cover running backs or tight ends, and our dick eating kicking game.

— Until further notice, Ted Ginn is on my shitlist. His incessant disappearing act is driving me batshit and his tentative approach on kickoff returns is outrageously bad. Give him time? He’s only a second year receiver? Fuck you with a cattle prod. We spent a high first-rounder on this cocksock, so he better step the fuck up right the fuck quick.

— I can’t bash Chad Pennington. He did a fine job, all things considered. He basically has receivers with the talent equivalency of Buddy Hackett and a three legged narcoleptic horse to work with. He did what he could with what he had. Plus, apparently the offensive line must think he’s made of iron and mortar because they let the Jets sack the guy four times.

In the end, however, it came right back to the same old shit sandwich we get served up with a side of fried goat testicles each and every year: coaching. Ricky and Ronnie were completely misused in this game. At times, the offensive play calling was just flat out weird, bordering on the inane. Third and goal and fourth and goal from the two and neither time do we run it? If we can’t gain two fucking yards with either Ricky or Ronnie, at home, on the goal-line, then let’s just pack it up right now and go frolic on a beach with Tom Brady for the rest of the year. Either Ginn or Devone Bess is your kick returner. Pick one and go with it. Patrick Cobbs has as much business being a third down back as my Mom. Why was Ernest Wilford dressed like me during the game? Why didn’t we compensate for the fact that the Jets blitzed on every fucking down all fucking day?!

We’ve seen Tony Sparano yell and scream and get into player’s faces whenever they displease him on the field. But who’s going to yell and scream and get into Sparano’s face when he fucks up? Bag the tough guy shit and coach, asshole. Coach the shit out of this team. Just because you’re the anti-Cam and can kill a man with your calves doesn’t mean you’re off the hook.

There were some positives in this game, but fuck it. A loss is a loss. And a loss to the Jets is even worse. All I know is we better get our shit together on the double. Otherwise, we might be breaking out the Schnapps early this season. Again.

 -Refs-

Oh, and this guy and his whole fucking crew can go blow themselves in an outhouse that’s been set on fire.

-The DUDE

Love it

Are you picking up what I'm putting down?

by Neo on Sep 8, 2008 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rambling on, I have to say it:

Ya know we can gripe about this. We can gripe about that. But at the end of the day we were where every team wants to be, with the ball and a chance to win the game.

Sure we made mistakes. Sure the refs screwed us, but guess what? The refs didn’t allow that TD on 4 and forever, we did. The refs didn’t stop us from getting into the endzone on the final drive, guess who did?

Bottom Line:

We are young and inexperienced and that usually results into what happened today – Not getting the job done.

Are you picking up what I'm putting down?

by Neo on Sep 8, 2008 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As much as I love...

this site (and I use it like AA group), FinsNation is the second site I go on everyday. I swear there is just a little bit of pee that comes out from all the laughing, long live the DUDE !

by sportssaga on Sep 8, 2008 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure your right

Are you picking up what I'm putting down?

by Neo on Sep 8, 2008 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ROFL!!!

This guy is insane. :) but ya gotta agree with him.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2008 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel the same way about teddy

watching him let those punts bounce made me rearraign my living room a little bit…. and I had two
thoughts while I was doing it…

1) why isn’t bess in their fielding those punts (heck had he just fair caught them it was like a 15 yard return)

2) is there another member of the ginn family that we should have active instead (his sister might be the bomb)

by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 9, 2008 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nicely said, my man.

nicely said.
I enjoyed watching them, even though they didn’t pull out the win. And they fought to the end. Their is certainly something to be proud of in that.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2008 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree implicitly w/ Neo

…(checks Hell for signs of frost, just in case) ; )

by Krab on Sep 8, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

5-10 yard passes

 The offense needs to stick to 5-10 yard passes because when Chad scored they were almost all short passes for 5 yards and run for another 5. Sprinkle in an dose of ronniie and ricky (in that order) and you have touchdowns.

Also, can we give up on play action pass when everyone in the world knows you can’t run the ball with 5 minutes left to go in the game. On some of the plays chad completely turned his back to the receivers for the play action.

by sdelinois on Sep 8, 2008 9:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Every single damn pass was play-action.

I was getting so pissed off. That’s wasted time that Pennington could be using to survey the receivers.

by joel311 on Sep 8, 2008 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a time to rant....

but QB makes the receivers….
Ginns is not a #1….WIlford was supposed to be that guy and is a free agent bust, so don’t slam our biggest threat. He even beat Revis once and Pennignton underthrew him…

Pennington checked off run too much….I think he was over anxious to beat his former team, and did not make good decisions….

I like Goodman, yeah he got beat, but everyone did on that one….

by JGray on Sep 8, 2008 9:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

IM NOT WRITING A PAGE NOONE WILL READ...

1) Chad Pennington is not the problem.
2) Ronnie needs to start, Ricky needs to play allot…if i see Cobbs 1 more time im kicking my dog.
3) NO WR’S. Ginn was shut down due to Camarillo…being Camarillo. he effin sucks
4) Dbess/Langford had the best games
5) Kickers played as bad as you can. Fields is a joke
6) Fasano is the real deal. That deal was a steal. Booker basically for those 2.
7) Sparano cant hide his inexperiance with his attitude…he got exposed
8) The O-line was just nervous…real bullets in the gun..they got spooked
9) Get that effin dirt off the field. The marlins were done 5 weeks ago
10) I hate to love Brett Favre

Its Sunday afternoon.....do you know where your beer is?

by Rzayo24 on Sep 8, 2008 9:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude, Ginn was NOT shut down due to Camarillo.

Ginn could not get open. Period. Blame Ginn on Ginn. And there may have been a time when he was open and CP didn’t see him, but overall, CP hit the open guy. I agree that we need a better #1 option.
Everything else looks pretty much right.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2008 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Missed tackles

Jesus christ lits like these guys have no depth perception or something

Why so serious?

by Patssuck456 on Sep 8, 2008 9:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow Matty,

It’s been a while since I’ve completely agreed with you. Would Ronnie have missed that wide open end zone pass like Ricky? I don’t think so, I think Ronnie would have made the jump or the dive to come up with the ball for the win. I love Ricky, and he’s my favorite player, but there’s some situations where you automatically have to put in Ronnie. Especially when Ricky isn’t showing anything spectacular.

Wtf is up with putting London on active and leaving Wilford inactive? That was absolutely ludicrous. The whole point of getting Wilford was for the exact situation we found ourselves in THREE TIMES: in the red zone and needing a TD.

How do you not run at 3rd & goal on the 2 yard line. HOW!?!?

I’m not going to knock Patrick Cobbs, because he did well, but I’m starting to feel like this is little league and every player is guaranteed playing time. What happened to the ruthless Sparano from the offseason?

by joel311 on Sep 8, 2008 9:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

First off

Why would you get Flamed Matty for pointing out the truth, oh yah there was the Beck thing. Secondly I’m not going to copy have off your article to make my post appear grandeouse. That would be something I’d expect from someone from NY, ha!

Gripe 3 – Maybe Ginn should be in WITH Bess on Kick Offs but no way should he be doing punt returns. Bess was solid in his returns while Ginn can’t even judge the punts. If you can’t at least fair catch those punts, at the end of the game, to save all the bounce and roll yards as well as time off the clock it’s to the bench with you!

Gripe 4 – Huh, I haven’t rewatch the game yet but I thought I saw Ronnie wiff one blocking assignment and totally blow another one. And of course the blown time out. Ronnie should start I agree, but todays line up was based off Preseason performance and Ricky had out played him to this point. Ronnie looked lost out there at times and Penne was getting killed, that’s why Cobbs was in there, I thought he did a better job yesterday of blocking, and if not needed he flared out on the flat.

Now I’m sure I’ll be the one who gets flamed, ha!

by ATS16 on Sep 8, 2008 10:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Very good point

1st with the offenisive line i fell that they realy struggled out there and thats what heart ous alout,But im sure with time they well gel a lil bit more and by next year im sure we can get another big name guard for a team to complete the all-star line where gonna have,And dond worry tony was a offensive line coach,so i now its gonna get better……….. 2nd I belive chad did very good,MOst qb woud just try to do to much and make mistakes,But this guy didnt and with are o-line the way that they blocked and then with are recivers that couldnt get open,All the positions the guy had,He was great out there….. 3rd With the play calling its understanable cuz tony is a first time coach with alot of pressure under bill and its not tony fault that this team played so poorly,We had good defense,We just couldnt stop the run,Look how the jets scored on ousThats not on tony. 4th for the secondary i new it was gonna be trouble from the start,Cuz these guys are horrible,I now its all about the line,But when the qb just throws the ball in the air and a secondary always break down theres a problem there,I thinnk that for next year,What bill needs to do is cut the hole secondary,Except for will allen and bell,Those are the only guys,Its not like are secondary is young and trustme there not getten any better…………. 5th Are reciver problem is a big one,Cuz as much as i like ginn the guy is as best a 2nd reciver thats are problem we just dont have that go to guy that we need,Thats somewhat of a problem there,We let wes welker go and chambers go and know where stuck……… 6th Maybe we should start ronnie who nows and who cares cuz with the way the offensive line is blocking out there it realy doesnt make a difference for them right……….. 7th i beleve that the release of are other kicker is realy gonna hurt ous,Like i said if its not broken why fix it,Are tightends were just playing great out there,Atleast we have somethean to look out for and one less problem to fix….Are rookies had a good game out there,But i thought i was gonna see a lil more of merling…..IM still mad that we couldnt get kenny phillips over phillip merling,Just one damn spot away of picken are miami native al star defensive back,That we need now more than ever…………………………….

by lionel on Sep 8, 2008 10:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

QB Comparison, What's with the Farve media love fest???

Pennignton 26/43, 251 yds, 9.7 avg, 60.4 , 2 TD, 1 INT
Farve 15/22, 194 yds, 12.9 avg, 68, 2 TD, 1 Fumble

Pennington had 11 more completions for 57 more yds, same amount of TDs, same amount of turnovers and Farve gets rave revues while people say Pennington did poorly?!!? WTF.
Pennington played with a swiss cheese OL who would let our backs run, and no receivers on the field, while Farve stould behind a pro bowl laden line with a 100 yard rusher and Cotchery and Coles and they say he was more impressive?!?
Come on. Pennington was surrounded with rookies who played like it and coaching that was even common sense and still we were one play away from winning the game. Give the man some props!!

by Dolphriend on Sep 8, 2008 10:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Correction

OL " …who would NOT let our backs run…"

by Dolphriend on Sep 8, 2008 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well said.

I love Pennington. I think I’m going to get a jersey.

by joel311 on Sep 8, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm there!!

i feel he displays the poise of a super bowl qb, in spite of his ‘weak arm’, and maybe being w/ a quality franchise such as ours will bring out his true potential… if he stays healthy…..

by Krab on Sep 8, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ricky not Ronnie

I disagree with starting Ronnie over Ricky. I agree that Ronnie looks good, but he is still les than a year removed from a torn ACL. If the O line is not opening holes, we don’t need the extra wear and tear on Ronnie’s knee. Put some miles on Ricky while he is stil here and save some tread on Ronnie.
Things will get better…

phyrmun

by phyrmun on Sep 8, 2008 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's all about the W

That’s why the Media is raving about Farve. If and when NYJ lose and Farve is that shakey, the NY media will flame him. He had two long TD passes for the highlight reel besides that I was not impressed. I watched the pregame AFC matchups on the NFLN and they didn’t even talk about Miami, it was all about the media darling boy. Give it time he’ll flop right down on his face.

Matty you’ve turned the corner on the Pennington pick up, I’m wondering if your having 2nd thoughts about the Dolphins not pursuing Farve? Too much of a Media circus right?

by ATS16 on Sep 8, 2008 11:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

People just relax

its the first real game for half if not more of this team together. Sparano is gonna go thru the Rookie Coach kinks just like every other coach in this league. Pennington played fine considering he had to do much of it on his own with a very poor running game. The Jets blitzing 3-4 clearly confused our young OL, but thats to be expected, they’ve only had a preseason to work together, and 2 of them are rookies,

Give it some time, let the young guys get comfortable and the new guys (including Sparano) get settled in. My ONLY gripes from that game was the kicking game and the Pass Happy playcalling. Even if we were only picking up 2 or 3 yards, isn’t it better to pound it pound it pound it punt, then to throw 3 incompletions and let the D off the field with no work?

Bottom Line: We looked like a football team again. The TE’s looked great, and Ronnie looked better than I expected. I would like to see a Ronnie/Ricky backfield on some plays to throw the D off a little. If the coaching staff deactivated Wilford, then I think it’s safe to say they didn’t think he could contribute AT ALL. He’s looked terrible this preseason, why does everyone think he’s all of the sudden our best option in the redzone? Cuz he’s tall? Get lost, I’d rather throw a jump ball to Bess against a 5’10 CB, at least I know if he gets a hand on it he catches it. I’m pretty sure he can get his hands higher than Wilfords chest, so he has a better chance of catching it anyway.

Chill out for a while, all those 10-6 expectations and playoff posts, its not realistic, so don’t get your hopes up for a one season wonder turnaround job. It’s a process, and were only at Game 1 of a 2-3 year process. Next time we play the Jets, I think we beat em. This will be a completely different team by then

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job.
-- Lou Holtz

by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 8, 2008 11:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I had said in a few other posts last week

that I was concerned about how the Oline would handle the blitz packages since they hadn’t seen much in preseason. I was also concerned about Washington, but I think they did okay containing him. I agree with you that they will get better as the season progresses.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure Bess' hands are more reliable

than both Wilford and Hagan. Unfortunately, Bess isn’t going to get a hand on the ball in that situation. Altitude will always win that match up. Hagan and London should have been in at those points.

Like you, I think Wilford sucks, but he’s still on the team, so use him when he’s useful or just fucking cut him! It’s ridiculous how much he’s getting paid to sit on his ass.

by joel311 on Sep 8, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not a big BP fan...

OK I’ll admit it, I’ve always disliked the guy. But even i have to admit that if you’re gonna commit to a full rebuilding project you have to start with the OL, DL & QB. Because it takes a year or two for the young linemen to become solid. While we’ve seen skill players (WR & DBs) can jump in time and again and be big contributors in their 1st year. We had to dedicate the bulk of our draft to both lines and we “may” have our QB of the future. Next off season I’m hopeful that we we get better at the WR and DB positions and continue the poccess.

by ATS16 on Sep 8, 2008 11:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Right on Matty!

My extra gripe is why would you go to Ted Ginn as your redzone threat? They could have at least put London in there seeing as he is tall. Something wrong when you are throwing up a jump ball to Ted Ginn. Overall though, I loved the team’s fight at the end. I think we are going to shock some teams when we stop beating ourselves.

by mikey2380 on Sep 8, 2008 11:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Overall Matty

I was very disappointed that we did not have Wilford in there ate the end of the game for what should have been an endzone jump ball. Exactly why I thought we brought him in here. In spite of the money, if they aren’t going to play him, I would rather see him cut, and let them try out Armstrong. We need some better answers at WR.

I was also disappointed in Ginn. I couldn’t tell much on TV about why he wasn’t getting open, but CP seemed to do a good job of finding the open guy, so I think he was not able to shake the coverage. This would be either a route running thing, or a problem beating the jam. But what I DID see of Ginn in return duties was disappointing. Bess looked better. Ginn just seems to play scared. Doesn’t try to shake tackles. Same complaint I had with him last year.

I still failt the Oline for the play calling…. to some extent. Specifically on the 3rd and 2, and 4th and 2. I am a big believer in power ball. You HAVE to be able to run the ball for a yard – any time you want!!!. Not optional. The line knows the count, they know the direction… you gotta be able to line your’n up agin his’n and move the ball 12 inches.
We should have been able to go 3rd and 2, run. 4th and 1, run – TD. But I honestly believe that by that point in the game, Henning had more confidence in CP than in his O-Line. That is the reason for the calls, and second guessing it is weak. If it had worked, no one would criticize it (arrrgghhh…. echoes of the Mularkey HB Option argument… my apologies). Anyway, if we had been having some success running the ball inside against an 8 man front, I’m sure they would have called for it. IMO

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2008 11:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh yeah, one more thing...

RBs – While I totally agree that cornCobbs has no business being in the game, on O AT ALL, (unless injuries), Ricky is faster than Ronnie. You can see it when you get him outside, which is what the SHOULD have done with him. Ronnie seems to be a better between the tackles kind of guy. And they are both pass catching threats, althought Ronnie is better at it. I don’t care who starts, but you gotta use these guys better if you want to win.
I saw one interesting idea posted… line em up at WR. They are playmakers, you gotta find ways to get the ball into their hands, and they can’t be worse than what we have.

Personally, I would have a couple plays from a formation with Fasano in the backfield with Ricky, Martin at TE, Ginn split wide, Ronnie in the slot. How freaking cool would that be? Your two best RBs and 5 of your best pass catchers on the field at the same time. If you are the D, how do you cover that? And now if you wanna run the end around from Ginn, he has some decent size throwing blocks for him against DBs (rather than Bess).

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

can't think of more to add..

i was just mainly disappointed because I was really expecting a win. I think I bought into the hype on here and during preseason, and thought we were going to make a complete 180 and be a completely diff football team.

overall, I’m disappointed that we lost, but I can see that we will be an elite football team, in time and with the right moves.

we like Jet Blue, we stay hella high

by chrislucas on Sep 8, 2008 12:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

...

We are a completely different football team! So are The Jets. So are The Bills. And, now, with Brady gone, so are the Patriots. This division just became the most competitive in the NFL except maybe the NFC North.

by joel311 on Sep 8, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the other side of the coin

The Jets have spent a ton of money on older free agents and while they may be better this year I don’t mind paying our dues. Players like Feneca, Woody and Farve are dimishing returns and I hope we stick to the youth movement unlike almost ever Dolphins FO since JJ. See ya next year MF’ing jests!

by ATS16 on Sep 8, 2008 12:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good point.

i agree, it is difficult to sit through but the Fins are rebuilding the right way.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2008 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want Pennington.

I’ve skeptical for a while on the guy. I’m sorry, I think he’s done, physically with respect to his arm. Yes he’s smart and he’s in great condition but his arm is not at an NFL level. I watched the game and its what I saw. He didn’t have a terrible game his stats were decent at the end, but I didn’t see a guy that could lead us to the playoffs, so what’s the point?

I’m not letting this go, as we get on with this and lose the next 3 games I want him out. We can have Henne in there getting some seasoning.

"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."

Coach Paul Bear Bryant

by AussieKen on Sep 8, 2008 12:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how about this?

we get a couple of wins under our belt, and then talk about putting Henne in?

Between the two, CP (i hate this phrase and can’t believe I am actually going to use it here) gives us the best chance to win right now. The team (and fans) needs a few wins to emotionally get past last year, and I just don’t think Henne can help them get there.

If we had a few wins and it was obvious that we were out of the hunt, I would not object to starting to get Henne some experience.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're wrong about Pennington.

He’s a fantastic QB. He’s no Manning or Brady, but he is definitely 2nd tier. I don’t understand the hate, especially considering, IMO, he was the MVP of that game.

He is the best QB, the best leader, and our best hope since Dan Marino. What game are you watching? He hits his open man every time. His passes are insanely accurate. He moves the ball. He puts us in scoring position. What else do you want from him? You saw no long bombs because The Jets secondary was insane. Lowery and Revis took away our deep threats, there were no open receivers down deep! WHERE DO YOU WANT HIM TO THROW IT AND WHO DO YOU WANT HIM TO THROW IT TO???

Let Henne develop. Pennington is the man for now.

by joel311 on Sep 8, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We Need Pennington!

His arm looked fine to me…he is a natural leader…smart with the ball, can make things happen…doesn’t let a slow start get to him…he is the best QB we have had since Marino!
I wasn’t for bringing him here at first either….but from what I have seen & heard from his team-mate’s interviews…he is truly a great asset at this time, great mentor for Henne!

by MassFinFan65 on Sep 8, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He throw like a girl but he's accurate.......

If we get down by more than two TD were in trouble. Don’t get me wrong I like Pennington and I am glad we picked him up but he is limited. Is greatest asset will be teaching Henne how to be a pro.

by jvw on Sep 8, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yah

for me it’s the Coaching errors that are the most difficult to sit through. Being mentored by Parcells you’d think Sparano would by-pass some of the simplier mistakes. Personal in a way i liked the penalties on Long. As stupid as they were it still shows what a competitor he is. He doesn’t want to ever get beat, which is the attitude you need, they just need to improve his technique.

by ATS16 on Sep 8, 2008 12:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, I wasn't concerned about Long.

It would be unrealistic to not expect him to make a few mistakes as a rookie stepping into the most challenging line position. He will learn and improve, which is all you can expect.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can see why Pace was highly sought after by Parcells

I bet he wasn’t even on NY radar until they learned Miami wanted him, F’ing bastards snuck in and stole him.

by ATS16 on Sep 8, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Our Biggest Problem....Recievers

& their lack of separation! Pennington did not have many open targets to choose from….our line needs to improve…..should come with time!
We open up the passing game & our running game will follow.

by MassFinFan65 on Sep 8, 2008 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Highly impressed with our Defense!

The unit impressed me, especially with the young players & being the first year many have been together! Still wish we had acquired Pace!

by MassFinFan65 on Sep 8, 2008 2:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When Langford sacked Favre,

I jumped out of my seat and yelled “Hell yeah, rookie!”

by joel311 on Sep 8, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

how great would Pace look in a Fins uniform. Can’t believe this front office cheaped out.

by Matty I on Sep 8, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

24 million guranteed is steep. He was good but not that good.

Wait until you see what we get next year for that money. I have a feeling you will be pleased. Not to mention we still had JT at the time. If they new JT would be gone they may have paid it.

by jvw on Sep 8, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed about the defense but

what impressed me the most was the great catches the TE made. Some of those catches were very difficult to make and credit goes to Pennington for putting the ball were it had to be.

by jvw on Sep 8, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is alot I agree with

but I will talk about what I dont agree with. One Ricky should continue to be starter, Ronnie is only 9 mos removed from major knee surgery. What we need to do is run more, Both backs should have 12-15 carries. I disagree with the goal line play calling I like Sparano explanation for passing on both downs. They were in a goal line defense with man to man at the wide outs we have to win that battle. Thats on the WR not the coaching staff. Imagine what we would be saying if we ran the ball twice and lost two yds? Ginn needs to catch the ball on special teams, until he can, leave Bess back there to return punts and kick offs. You can not let the ball hit the ground when your fielding punts and on top of that he gets tripped up by someone grabing his foot. Hes got to be stronger than that. This is a process and I like the first steps this team has taken. By week 5 (after the Bye) we will see a much improved team.

by jvw on Sep 8, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No more Cobbs.

This isn’t Pop Warner, we should not be splitting up playing time equally among all of our players! Every time Cobbs touches the ball, it’s one less chance for Ricky or Ronnie to explode for a big gain.

by joel311 on Sep 8, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suddenly we're a bunch of Wilford fans?

We’ve all been crabbing about what a bust Wilford has been, so you guys were all secretly big fans? I’m pretty sure they has a reason to sit him down for the game, even if it was as a wake up call to put some fire under his ass.
I had to remind myself that we are rebuilding, we were real close to winning this game and I’m sure they will improve as the season goes on.
Is it a good idea to bring in Terry Glenn now?

by phranchise on Sep 8, 2008 3:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We cut Armstrong and kept Wilford.

Fucking play him if you’re going to keep him around taking up space.

by joel311 on Sep 8, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

joel331

need to read a little bit into the thread, look at what phranchise wrote “I’m pretty sure they has a reason to sit him down for the game, even if it was as a wake up call to put some fire under his ass.”
That is why, he explain Wilford been with us YET!!

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Sep 8, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sitting him out for the majority of the game

will achieve the same effect. We could have started this season off 2-0, that’s much more important than whatever they are doing.

by joel311 on Sep 8, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Terry Glenn

NO!

He isn’t healthy. If he was, many teams would want him.

by Matty I on Sep 8, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

heres the plan

cut brandon london, get chad jackson, activate wilford and jackson, and deactivate rod wright (to replace wilford), un-warnize and apologize to finsxfactor for unjust warnage, light a fire up the o-lines “you-know-what” (<—— just incase saying the other one would be rude and offensive and online fight starter)

Ice Ice Baby

by finsxfactor on Sep 8, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For real!!

Wright was inactive??
Wasn´t he doing great as olb? WTF??

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Sep 8, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're thinking of Matt Roth.

Barring that stupid personal foul, he played well.

by joel311 on Sep 8, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saying that you want to light a fire up someone's ass is offensive to me.

sounds painful and disgusting. Not to mention somewhat sick and twisted.

Matty, you want to give him another warning?
;)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pennington Stat

Of the 34 QB’s that played this weekend, Pennington was ranked 6th in total yds (6 yds less than Peyton Manning). Farve was 16th.
1. McNabb
2. Brees
3. Romo
4. Kitna
5. Manning
6. Pennington

Pennington was second highest in number of completions with 26 (Manning had 30) out of every QB that played!

With all the gripes about our OL and recievers this is something to feel hopeful about. I know Pennington isn’t our future, but can you imagine what our level of play would be like right now with what we have had at QB over the last few years?

The O-Line will get better. Sparano was a line coach – he’ll fix it. We will adjust. The running game will improve with the gelling of the O-Line. We are going to win some games, which is a hell of alot more fun than last year.

by Dolphriend on Sep 8, 2008 6:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

On Calvin Pace

We’ll see how “worth it” he is by the end of the season. He won’t be eating Jake Long’s lunch all the time. We’ll see how he fairs when he lines up against other more experienced lines.

For the money the man got paid, he needs to get at least 12 sacks this year.

Satele too, needs some blame. Kris Jenkins owned the line of scrimmage.

Our defensive line is going to be pretty good this year. Kendall Langford is awesome.

We’ll get them next time.

www.thephinisher.com

by The Phinisher on Sep 8, 2008 6:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I remember Ronnie being explosive with the ball in his hands...

if we get Ronnie out there more he can make plays and open up things for the receivers.

11

y not if im wrong who will remember

by qbinfin on Apr 27, 2008 3:27 PM PDT

by DolfinPhan on Sep 8, 2008 6:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sparanos excuse

for not starting Wilford was this regimes love of “multi-taskers”.

I’m all for guys who can “do a lot of things” but theres simply some situations where you need a guy who has a distinctive advantage and/or does one thing and can contribute at a key moment and Wilford’s height would’ve been a huge mismatch in the redzone.

I like Cobbs BUT he simply takes the ball out of RB’s hands,who is a TD threat whenever he touches the ball,on 3rd downs IMO.

Wilford may not be able to contribute on ST but it looked like he found his hands against New Orleans and since mismatches is what its ALL ABOUT in football,IF he can catch the ball then thats one helluva mismatch in my eyes.

Speaking of catching,when Bess turned across his body and grabbed that pass THAT was awesome.

He is scary quick and seems to be at fullspeed within 5-10 yards which is a lot different than a guy who is “fast” so I think his role and our passing scheme will be tweaked tremendously in the coming weeks.

by buttonmashersrhilarious on Sep 9, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Bess was amazing.

He is going to be a superstar.

by joel311 on Sep 9, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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