Still no Ginn?
by SharkFins28 on Sep 22, 2008 4:40 PM EDT
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okay big issue for me... 1st rounder? are you kidding me? His first pass like in 2 games and he fumbles? no long bombs? no long deep posts? he got a few passes no juking...? Ginn needs to step it up and play like a 1st rounder.........? im sorry i bought his jersey and thought so highly of him and he hasnt shown much of anything? i know yall agreee? whats yall opinions!
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Never I mean NEVER......
critizize Ginn again.
by Phinsguy99 on Sep 22, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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whos ted ginn?
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by Rzayo24 on Sep 22, 2008 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Please...
if your going to compose a fanpost, at least try and follow a few rules of grammar and punctuation.
Otherwise, yes, I agree.
Seriously?
by Daren on Sep 22, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what the hell am i gonna do with my ginn jersey and ginn personilzed sweatshirt!?!?!?!??!?!?!
i cant send it back for a ronnie brown one…can i??
Ice Ice Baby
by finsxfactor on Sep 22, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As we start winning,
Ginn will have all the pressure taken off of his shoulders. He’ll perform then, and all the haters will be bandwagoners.
by joel311 on Sep 22, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
always with the bandwagoners
it’s not hating on someone when they stink and you point it out. And Ginn was invisible until the Pats game. It’s not hating to call him out and say he hasn’t performed up to his draft status and/or contract, it’s reality. When he starts playing like a true number 1 receiver, everyone will praise him because he earned it. But until he plays up to his potential, and becomes the difference maker he’s supposed to be, all the so-called “haters” will continue to criticize him because he deserves it.
It’s the same with Jason Allen. Are we all Haters for calling him out? He’s a 1st round pick who is currently 3rd on the depth chart at his position, on a team that desperately needs a good player at his position. I think it’s safe to say he’s a bust, but that means I’m hating on him right?
Hater is such a stupid term.
On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job.
-- Lou Holtz
by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 23, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ginn and tonic
Ginns absence is partly a coaching decision thing. Remember the Ginn who is a great returner? He hasn’t been returning kicks. He even didn’t play last week. Is Bess a “better” returner? Doubt it. He does have good hands though. Funny thing is, Bess is returning AND also playing as a receiver.
Something tells me that the coaching staff has a plan with Ginn. I remember reading that he literally has a learning problem and it takes him a while to catch on the things but that when he does, he’s got it.
People are definitely “hating” on him. It’s not just criticism, people are going way over the top, “he sucks!” “he’s a joke!” “what a waste!” and all that type of talk.
Expect a Ginn comback and prepare your apology.
by phranchise on Sep 23, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Criticizing to me
would be berating him for dropping easy catches,having a TRUE #1 opposite of him in a pass happy Offense and him still not producing and/or having a QB that could throw a 50 yd pass with some velocity,him be wide open and not try and make a play on the ball… I would be the first to start the berating but this simply isnt the case and isnt warranted IMO.
Remember last year against the Bills when Beck was getting killed,got pulled and the FIRST play called was a rollout by Lemon and a BOMB to Ginn? and now we’re expecting 50,60,70 and 80 yard bombs from Ginn delivered by a QB whom most say cant throw past 20 yards and is commonly referred to as "noodle arm?
Sure he runs like the wind and was a #9 overall but I dont care if hes chosen #1 overall or #265, EVERY player needs the correct packages,formations and play calling to use their God Given abilities to have any measurable and expected level of success IMO and its obvious to me that the more we attack,the likelihood of him exploding on a regular basis is a given, thats just me but time will tell.
After watching tape,I feel sure we will see A LOT of scheming geared towards using receivers alongside him to clear traffic because he was wide open in stride on several deep slants whenever they called a quick slant on the same side with another receiver and thats only one possibility out of hundreds .
After the level of success opening it up provided Sun.,you can bet the Coaches are licking their chops at all the options and possibilites at their disposal and the entire WR corp,the running game and ol’ “noodle” will benefit and that is great news for our Offense and horrible news for our opponents.
I TOTALLY understand being frustrated about a player who has that “light up the world” potential but has shown only glimpses so far BUT I balance that with knowing it takes a lot more than HIS individual ability and know that it will all click shortly..what I have a problem with are the people who think just because he was picked AT ALL,much less #9 OVERALL,that he should immediately produce 1500 yds.,20 TD’s + 7 returns for TD’s in the kicking game even if all we had was a hicker and a thrower and expecting him to produce better than he has given how poorly he has been used,if at all,is akin to that.
by firedanhenningnow on Sep 23, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im just frustrated that we are not utilizing him on return duties, and screens and slants...he takes those and can make big plays out of them
Ice Ice Baby
by finsxfactor on Sep 23, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
He didnt play bad on Sunday, but I can see this team working him into the offense again.
He’s definately a work in progress at WR, and he does need to be taking back kicks
"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"
-From the Unforgiven III off of Death Magnetic
by Patssuck456 on Sep 23, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too FxF
hes a lot of things..hes small and frail looking,hes not quick,he doesnt like to stick his head into the pile and hes not very decisive at times but HE IS a bolt of lightning and a real threat to take it 70 + everytime he touches the dern ball and all his 5-10 yard returns only to be knocked down by a mild gust of wind are more than offset by the chance of housing one.
by firedanhenningnow on Sep 23, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
They have really been tinkering with the players that they have in different schemes, looking at the big picture. We all know that Ginn has real talent, they will find a place for him and surprise people. Like I said in another post, he was also a QB in high school, can you imagine him sweeping in the wildcat with an option? Dangerous!
by phranchise on Sep 24, 2008 12:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
something funny(wondering if what you just witnessed was real) is coming..I feel it and cant wait….Im seeing a sprint option from Ronnie to Ginn..talk about an exciting list of options out of that formation,and from our Dolphins no doubt..I know its one game but how can we not expect awesome success after what we just witnessed?
They made a good and disciplined Defense led by a D guru look like a Pop Warner team that just found out they’re not getting Ice Cream after the game!
People are saying Wildcat cant continue to work at the NFL level but all you ever hear is “Its a game of mismatches!”…how can you create more mismatches than the Wildcat presents is my question.
by firedanhenningnow on Sep 24, 2008 12:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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