Everybody relax: Ted Ginn still a starter

by Matty I on Sep 11, 2008 4:35 PM EDT in News Comment 53 comments

Yesterday, somebody asked why I wouldn't respond to the news that Derek Hagan was working ahead of Ted Ginn at receiver - meaning Ginn potentially was dropped down the depth chart.

Well, now you know why.

Tony Sparano said today that Ted Ginn is indeed still a starter. So everyone freaked out yesterday over nothing. Sparano refers to those kinds of changes in practice as experiments. Says Sparano:

"Every day we go out there on the practice field, every game that we play it's a tryout. We're still trying to find the right pieces to the puzzle as we get onto the games. We need to see consistency come out of some of these guys, and they know they need to be consistent."

So why did everyone seem to freak out yesterday when Ginn was overtaken - at practice, that is - by Derek Hagan? I blame the media. They love to blow things out of proportion.

Here's my take on this situation. Ted Ginn is still a starter and will be a starter all season. It serves no purpose for him not to get as much experience as he can. He's still a very young player with a lot to learn. So why was Hagan ahead of Ginn at least during the media portion of practice? My theory is that they are preparing for situations where Greg Camarillo and Hagan line up as outside receivers, with Ted Ginn lined up in the slot - where he should be as often as possible because of his speed.

But for now, everyone take a deep breath and relax. Ted Ginn is still starting. Now he just needs to produce a little bit.

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Geeeeeeeeeshhhhhh

that guy was an idiot Matty!

stupid rookie blogger hounding you for your opinion.

Its Sunday afternoon.....do you know where your beer is?

by Rzayo24 on Sep 11, 2008 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

lol

was it you? I forgot which one of you were seeking out my opinion.

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by Matty I on Sep 11, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

uhh naww wasnt me

it was rzayo23. that guys a d bag

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by Rzayo24 on Sep 11, 2008 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

rzayo23 is my brother.... =(

Ice Ice Baby

by finsxfactor on Sep 11, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

ahhh…but is Camarillo starting or is it Hagan on the other side????!!!!!!!!

And where is he starting at?!! oh no…..what if he is a cornerback this week!!

Its Sunday afternoon.....do you know where your beer is?

by Rzayo24 on Sep 11, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

"Ted Ginn is still starting. Now he just needs to produce a little bit."

Take the words “a little bit” out of the above quote and you are right on target Matty.

This about sums it up.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 11, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

oh and BTW, I agree about putting Ginn in the slot

I have been posting that all over this blog. :)

Remember what it did for Chambers a couple of years ago when he couldn’t break out?

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 11, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

course he still never really broke out...

but he seemed to do better in the slot.
:)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 11, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

not so sure

So why did everyone seem to freak out yesterday when Ginn was overtaken – at practice, that is – by Derek Hagan? I blame the media. They love to blow things out of proportion.

matty

hmmm.. yeah teddy is likely still the starter for now… but these guys just don’t do things… there was clearly a message being sent… pick up the game and put a forth a better effort or we will play someone who does…btw: has anyone noticed that the cuts keep moving up the food chain….
even Vonnie said he’s a little nervous.

by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 11, 2008 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

lol

Its Sunday afternoon.....do you know where your beer is?

by Rzayo24 on Sep 11, 2008 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Maybe, next week he will send a msg to the

FANS!!! and block the entrance until right before the star of the game, but outside the stadium you could heard a loud noise of recorded people, cherring for the Dolphins!! LOL
Stop getting out of the FREAKING stadium before the god dan""" game is over!!

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Sep 11, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

sorry aleta geez

i had to do #2 and i only do it in porto-potties.

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by Rzayo24 on Sep 11, 2008 6:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Don´t worry Rzayo

My comments are no meant to be taken personal by anyone from this site. I know, NON of us, will get out of the stadium before the clock mark 0:00.
But i notice that the stadium was getting empty before the time was over and we were almost pulling this onepropellers game).
I will be there for the Raiders games and as usual, i will stay there past the end of the game. So don´t take it personal, people!!

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Sep 11, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

Ice Ice Baby

by finsxfactor on Sep 11, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I tjought there were alot of Fin fans remaining on Sunday

THye were lud enough for the Camera to pick up a chant of “Defense! Defense!”

Why so serious?

by Patssuck456 on Sep 11, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

those were the jets fans chanting that.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 11, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol no when it was that series in which the dolphins needed a stop (before the final drive)

watch the game again, you can here the crowd yelling “DEFENSE! DEFENSE!”

Ice Ice Baby

by finsxfactor on Sep 11, 2008 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like the shuffling...

we keep adding picks…just from last yrs draft. this guy we are adding played at Ohio State last year…big time players from big time programs whom played in big time games. he is 6-4…love the big linemen we are gettin.

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by Rzayo24 on Sep 11, 2008 6:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

THATS EXACTLY WHAT I SAY "Relax...Ted Ginn will be Finneeeeee"

…but then LCff wanted proof…. =(

Ice Ice Baby

by finsxfactor on Sep 11, 2008 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i think that

is what lefty said…

ginn is Finneeeeeshed

by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 11, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and i didn't say he was fineeeeeeshed

or any other kind of shed. :)

What I ACTUALLY said was that he needs to step it up. play harder and faster.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 11, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm pretty sure

it was you who said the coaches need to take him out to the wood shed….

;~)

by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 12, 2008 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm okay wit dat.

he could stand a little toughening up.
(“you quit that cryin boy or you gonna get another whoopin! Don’t make me go get your mom!”)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 12, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I still want proof

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 11, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

NEVER!!!!

Ice Ice Baby

by finsxfactor on Sep 11, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

if ted ginn doesnt produce "a lil bit"

he wont be finnnnnnnnnneeeeee

hell be fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrred

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by Rzayo24 on Sep 11, 2008 6:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

good one...

Ice Ice Baby

by finsxfactor on Sep 11, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

THIS dude we just signed...

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d809029fd

Ice Ice Baby

by finsxfactor on Sep 11, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

we signed brian baldinger?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

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by Rzayo24 on Sep 11, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Fins O-Coord talking about what Ginn needs to be a #1 WR

“The number one ingredient is what they got when their parents got together. It’s what’s given to them in terms of physical talent,” Henning said, drawing laughter from the media. "After that, once a person has that talent they’ve got to be tough. You’ve got to be tough in this league when you play receiver. You just can’t be out there fluttering around. Those days are gone forever. The people that are playing corner, the people that are playing linebacker, they will find you fast if you’re not tough. So you’ve got to be tough. You’ve got to be smart enough to adjust to coverages and do all those types of things. Then your talent comes into play.

“If you have the talent, and you don’t have the smarts and toughness, then you are going to struggle. If you have smarts and toughness but not the talent you may be the third receiver. But you better learn how to play special teams.”

Now, maybe it’s just me…. so Matty, please tell me if I’m wrong here, but what I think Ginn lacks is toughness. It is difficult to see from the camera angles on the game if Ginn struggles to beat the jam, but I can say with certainty that when he has the ball it doesn’t take much to bring him down.

Thoughts?

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 11, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

two points

I’m surprised you let it pass… but it looks like someone finally explained that drafting the ‘whole ginn family’ comment… and quite frankly i’m even more unsettled by cam’s comment now that it has been explained to me….

~"The number one ingredient is what they got when their parents got together. It’s what’s given to them in terms of physical talent," ~

second

Lack of toughness… likely… he does go down from the breeze of a player running by him…. but i would have to guess the coaches aren’t too pleased with his failure to field punts… there really was no excuse not to catch those punts in the game last sunday…

by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 12, 2008 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

nice catch on the whole “Ginn family” comment. I missed that one.

On the other, I didn’t let that pass. I have covered both the toughness and failure to field those punts in other posts and am in complete agreement. I was actually trying to get Matty to pipe up, but he’s not talking to me. :)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 12, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd say that....

….we really don’t know how tough Ginn is. I will say that we did see him go over the middle a couple of times during the regular season. Unfortunately, it’s hard to tell about the jam – like you said – without the coaches tape, which we’ll never have access to.

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by Matty I on Sep 12, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Great find......

honestly….not trying to be funny…i havent seen Ginn enough in the games to even know if he is tough.

Seriously.

You never see him blocking deep down field on a running play;…..has he even cracked back hard on someone?

Has he taken a shot and got up with attitude?

No. he seems like he runs straight and if he gets open cool…if not no chance he fights for it.

Its Sunday afternoon.....do you know where your beer is?

by Rzayo24 on Sep 11, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

isnt crack back illegal? ginn goes over the middle....

for the record i think its ridiculous how fickle some people are…
honestly after that jaguars game you guys were like praising ginn and calling him the number 1

…then after another impressive showing at KC you guys were making him a throne…

now after a hard fought game you guys are calling him a super bust and saying he aint tough?

…just wow, im not picking on you big guy, im just sayin in general just relax guys

Ice Ice Baby

by finsxfactor on Sep 11, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

was I?

I don’t recall ever being enamored with Ginn, but I was hopeful that he would develop into a better WR this year… still am.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 11, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he's just confused

because you had that thing to T’s sister last year after the draft.

by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 12, 2008 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

You have great opinions and points of views……but please….change that friggin “Raisin Bran Sunshine” icon………yea, its shallow and I shouldn’t care…..but……something Dolphin would really help. This is just some fun ribbin’…….don’t take it too serious.

by HuskerDolphin on Sep 12, 2008 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL!

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 12, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

seriously......

I just look at it and think…….“two scoops”

by HuskerDolphin on Sep 12, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hey now

looks like mr grumpy woke up on the dark side of the moon today eh?

sounds like you need a little sunshine in your life…

and since it helps me find my posts very quickly and my daughter would be very upset if it took it down… it’ll be staying!!!!

and what better to express the miami dolphins than the sun… it’s a bright and sunny day…
;@)

by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 12, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

okay, the last part?

a LITTLE too Mr. Rogers.

;)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 12, 2008 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

you played the “daughter card”…….I’ll be shuttin up now. You keep that sunshine shining, it has a whole new meaning now……kudos!

by HuskerDolphin on Sep 13, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

nawwww

im just sayin…its time.

picks arent projects…they are good soon

dont tell me he has done anything…he had 2 tds last yr and not much else to talk about. Look at Bowe…Calvin Johnson….thats what a top pick wr looks like.

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by Rzayo24 on Sep 11, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

what if ted ginn isnt a wr, what if he's just a punter masquerading as a wr?

Ice Ice Baby

by finsxfactor on Sep 11, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

good point.

that’s really what Cam said (PR, not punter right?), he was trying to set expectations that they had drafted a really good return man who they hoped would develop into a WR.

Now, if that’s what he is…. fine. It sucks, but fine. Stick him out there and let him run back kicks. At least he would be contributing. All I’m saying is he needs to contribute.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 11, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs