Cam Cameron must have learned from his mistakes
Maybe this is just me, but this really angers me.
You'll remember that last season, the plan for John Beck was supposed to be to sit out all year and learn behind Trent Green. Then after Green went down to injury, it was Cleo Lemon who took over - because Cam Cameron wanted to stick to his plan for John Beck. Somewhere in the middle of Lemon's poor outings, Cameron decided to get John ready in matter of a week or two to take over as starter - deviating from the plan. John clearly was ill prepared and he struggled - and potentially hurt his confidence for the future.
But now in Baltimore as the offensive coordinator, Cameron has apparently changed his tune. I guess he has learned from one of his mistakes last year. And this quote from Cameron, which is in the most recent issue of Sports Illustrated, shows that he now is open to having a rookie QB start:
"LeBron James was dominating the NBA at 18. Michelle Wie was a pro golfer at, what, 13? Let's not go making it so impossible to play quarterback in the NFL as a rookie."
Huh?? Are you friggin' kidding me?? Seriously??
You know, maybe if Cam took that attitude last year early on in camp, he would have had John Beck much more prepared to get into a game rather than having John work with the 3rd team in camp and then with the scout team for the first half of the regular season.
Unreal. Simply unreal.
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What part of...
Cam-Cam is High School Head Coaching material have people not figured out yet?
by Natalya on Aug 8, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm hanging out in sunny Acapulco this week
and have been reading the blog to keep up on things, but was not planning on posting…. until now. =)
This was just too good to pass up! Matty, I can almost hear the steam escaping from your ears!
IMO, Cam is a moron, and saying that he is HS coaching material is an offense to HS coaches everywhere. We all know it, and are glad he is coaching elsewhere, but I gotta agree somewhat with Matty here… we don’t know what might have been for Beck with a good coach last year, but it is obvious that Cam did some damage to the kid.
But I am over Cam… let´s move on. =)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 8, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it
Comparing Michelle Wie to an NFL quarterback. Comparing golf to football. Oh man, my sides hurt.
Hey Michelle, how’s that career working out? What? You actually weren’t ready? Oh, that’s too bad.
In golf you hit a dead ball with no physical contact. That’s why rookie kickers can play no probs in the NFL. QBs, not so much. David Carr had plenty of talent. It was literally beaten out of him.
Thank god we only suffered one year of this buffoon.
Football isn't a matter of life and death - it's far more important than that.
by Agumen on Aug 8, 2008 5:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What the heck
As far as I am concerned he has no credibility after last year at all. Just like I felt when I decided not to watch an Fins games the year Ricky retired, I refuse to listen to his rubbish any more. He is no longer an expert after last year, and I will not forgive and certainly not forget. I am still in awe as to how someone can go 1-15 and then actually still be considered a great offensive coach. Thank god he is gone. In all seriousness, I do wish him well, but I fear for those QB’s in Baltimore and would not be surprised if that team does bad this year.
by resman on Aug 8, 2008 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's an idea...
‘Let’s not go making it so impossible to coach in the NFL as a rookie [Head Coach].’
Same sentence, I just altered a few things.
Cam is a dunce who should be sitting in a corner facing the wall.
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y not if im wrong who will remember
by qbinfin on Apr 27, 2008 3:27 PM PDT
by DolfinPhan on Aug 8, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well
seemed everyone was happy to get him last year.. under my old name, I was trying to say how he ruined Indiana.. but I got critized & everything for saying he was a bad coach.. Ive been a fin fan all my life, through all the up’s & downs.. my first memory of the fins is watching the game where steve grogan took the pats against us to play the super bowl shufflin bears..
Cam sucks, he just had alot of tools with the chargers.. but, thats why I barely post.. some people just think that someone new is going to turn us around.. if its anyone, the tuna, I will actually trust.. I know he prollay wont be around for our super bowl year, but we are in the right direction!
What The Deuce?
by E_Dove on Aug 8, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just listen to the heralds
pod cast this week… Armando—nails Cam to a tee (at the very end)
btw: cam cam isn’t the head coach, so its possible/likely the decision was made for him, and now he has to come up with some sort of justification?
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 8, 2008 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
......
Damn, I’m struck specchless
Why so serious?
by Patssuck456 on Aug 8, 2008 6:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Cam-Cam learns from every single mistake he made with the Dolphins, he’ll become the single greatest coach in the history of sports. Beacuase if sure that he was the worst I’ve ever seen.
"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."
Coach Paul Bear Bryant
by AussieKen on Aug 8, 2008 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dumb ass
That’s why he can’t ever be a head coach in this league.
We're talkin' about PRACTICE....practice!
by hotrod43 on Aug 8, 2008 6:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude, get a clue!
Dude, you really need to get a clue, for real. Now you are trying to blame Cameron for you beloved John Beck’s awful lack of skills??? C’mon man, you really need to wake up and smell the coffee dude. Cam is open to playing Flacco, not Beck. He hesitated with Beck because he saw him during practice and realized…”Uh, oh! This guy sucks!!!”
Sparano sees the same thing. Thus, why he tried to fix his throwing motion and is now looking to acquire Pennington and is going to even keep Beck out of tomorrow’s game. C’mon, when will you man up and accept it?
by mred on Aug 8, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WIIIILLLL-Buuuuurrrrr.....
...you are beginning to feel vindicated huh?
=)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 8, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beck Doesn't Play??
I must have missed the news on which qbs were picked to play. Beck is out? He gets no “reward” for any work?
It would be a mistake if the staff doesn’t allow Beck to show what he can do in a game. It’s not like they need the win…......
by Alpha6 on Aug 8, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what work??
you play the guys who are capable of leading the team… they’ll play beck in game 4 and try and increase/create trade value for him.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 8, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cam is in the past....
Let’s leave him alone…..and Matty just wrote this post after Blanco’s walk – off on his Cards.
by JGray on Aug 8, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Notice Matty's bias...
Kffl dot com and mortenson have reported that not only will MIA start McCown tomorrow and play Henne in most of the game…but that they will “keep” Beck out of tomorrow’s game and look to trade him or (according to Mortenson) CUT BECK, if they find no takers. Pennington signing is imminent.
But you hear nothing from Matty? LOL!
by mred on Aug 8, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Beck's done...
Penny is signed and delivered!
by eltunagrande on Aug 8, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where
is everybody’s insight that Beck is not playing. I still don’t see it in any of the Miami area newspaper web sites. Even the KFFL quote I can’t find. Seems there’s a lot of inference and speculation just to make talk and get attention to their controversial opinions.
But from reading reports on how the qbs ventured, I see no great separation from any of them from each other. If would seem from a management standpoint that they would start Henne to help them see the future. Then play Beck as he’s the heir apparent from last year, to see if he has anything for the game - or vice versa. McCown is a known factor, no need to see what he can do. He’s played plenty in games that count, that they don’t need to see more.
Getting better at the position is also a mangement interest, so if bringing in Pennigton is better, then he’s better than McCown, (who is known), who is the “veteran” guru in the position. It makes no sense to have two veterans as guru’s. McCown would be poisonous if he stayed but was relagated to back-up or third string behind Henne.
Management is building for the future, not for “win-now.” They want to be younger so they grow together (Marino – Clayton – Duper?). A growing season is probably one year for the quarterback position, before management wants have one in place for the rest of the future. Judging that this season is a loser season (less than 9 wins), th is could be changed in a matter of months, not a year.
Personally, I’m waiting till tomorrow to see who starts, rather than count on talking heads, bloggers, or shit-head writers. Everyone has their favorite, McCown, Hene, or Beck (or Pennington, etc.) they want to see start and play. For me it should be Beck and Henne in tomorrow’s game…........
by Alpha6 on Aug 8, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whichever qb doesn't play...
tomorrow is probably getting traded.
by eltunagrande on Aug 8, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
done deal
Chad has been signed to a 2-Year deal, I guess the question is whose the odd man out. I seriously hope it’s McCown. I hope this link to Fox Sports works
by ATS16 on Aug 8, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry McCown fans.....
but I don’t see him with the team now. I’m with Matty on this one…. Everything seems to be saying that management will keep the younger guys, even Jay Glasser says:
”...Pennington is the perfect fit to tutor the [youngsters] on the Dolphins’ roster who could eventually become a successor…”
What’s not said by the coaches, Jay and Matty speaks loudly here!
by Alpha6 on Aug 8, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I’m with you guys on that one as well.
"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."
Coach Paul Bear Bryant
by AussieKen on Aug 8, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW:
is anyone else just smiling about the fact that Cam has to go ‘outside the box’ and try to out smart everyone….
he can’t just say… that the Big Ben guy did ok starting as a rookie, or maybe that P manning guy?
Only Cam would go outside of football to explain why starting a rookie isn’t unheard of….
Go Cam Go….
PS – would one of you Cam supporters out there (especially the ones who took offense when I called Cammy and idiot) please tell us all what he is saying here?
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 9, 2008 12:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was one of them...
....and I have no idea.
by Matty I on Aug 9, 2008 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And here I thought
you lost your Cammy Badge when the kid got upset?
btw: did you see the P king MMQ article about Cam’s kid Kicking field goals….
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 9, 2008 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I'll take a crack...
at defending Cam. If you can remember correctly, Cameron repeatedly said that each situation is different.
This is demonstrably true and cannot be disputed when it comes to football players and what they can and cannot accomplish at a given time in their careers. He specifically said this when discussig when a QB should be started. Now, it is the coach’s judgement call when a rookie QB should play, and, as we all saw last year, circumstances can dictate departure from that judgement. It is oh so easy in hindsight to question every single decision Cameron made. To call him an idiot is in itself moronic. He has risen to a level of expertise in his profession few can claim. It is possible that last year he was promoted above that level to a position he couldn’t handle, but we’ll never know because he wasn’t allowed to continue. To base your judgement of his utter failure on one year is disingenuos. Plenty of coaches have started poorly and become hall of famers.
If you enjoy calling people idiots, I can’t prevent that. I’m sure some of you won’t be able to resist. Cameron made some bad decisions last year. When was the last time YOU were perfect all the time? Cameron is a good person and OC – and I’ll wager given a year or three with the Ravens their offense will be recognized as one of the better ones in the league. So lighten up.
by Yorke Hunt on Aug 9, 2008 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I'll take a crack...
at defending Cam. If you can remember correctly, Cameron repeatedly said that each situation is different.
This is demonstrably true and cannot be disputed when it comes to football players and what they can and cannot accomplish at a given time in their careers. He specifically said this when discussig when a QB should be started. Now, it is the coach’s judgement call when a rookie QB should play, and, as we all saw last year, circumstances can dictate departure from that judgement. It is oh so easy in hindsight to question every single decision Cameron made. To call him an idiot is in itself moronic. He has risen to a level of expertise in his profession few can claim. It is possible that last year he was promoted above that level to a position he couldn’t handle, but we’ll never know because he wasn’t allowed to continue. To base your judgement of his utter failure on one year is disingenuos. Plenty of coaches have started poorly and become hall of famers.
If you enjoy calling people idiots, I can’t prevent that. I’m sure some of you won’t be able to resist. Cameron made some bad decisions last year. When was the last time YOU were perfect all the time? Cameron is a good person and OC – and I’ll wager given a year or three with the Ravens their offense will be recognized as one of the better ones in the league. So lighten up.
by Yorke Hunt on Aug 9, 2008 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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