Dolphins vs Jaguars: What To Watch For
Well the 2nd preseason game is upon us. This past week was quite a week, wasn't it? The QB drama hit new heights this week. WE had a fight break out in camp between players. And we had our team MVP from 2007 cut in favor of a rookie.
But now it's time to focus on this 2nd preseason game. As Tony Sparano said earlier this week, now is the time for players to make their cases. It's time for them to prove why they should start, or even why they deserve to be on the final 53-man roster. So below is just a list of things that we should keep an eye on in Jacksonville on Saturday night.
CAN WE PLEASE SCORE A TOUCHDOWN??
Last season, we all know our offense was bad. However, even the '07 Dolphins managed to put the ball in the endzone in the 1st preseason game. It took them just 2 and a half quarters before Jesse Chatman busted a 74 yard run to the house. Last week, this offense was only inside Tampa Bay's 30 yard line one time - and they never once got inside the redzone. The only word to describe that? Pitiful.
Sure, it's just the preseason, but it would sure be nice to see this offense put one in the endzone, you know?
CHAD PENNINGTON AND THE 1ST TEAM OFFENSE
Sure, it hasn't been officially announced yet. But we all know that it will be Chad Pennington getting the start on Saturday night. So it'll be interesting to see how much of a grasp he has of the offense so far. Remember, though he's only been here for less than a week, he is a very smart guy and should be able to pick up this offense relatively quickly. It'll also be our first chance to really see how Pennington is doing building chemistry with the receivers. How bad will their timing be off? If it's not off by much, that will be a very good sign.
So how much will Pennington play? That's not too clear right now. But Sparano did say this earlier in the week:
"We're going to take a long look at it, but it's going to be something comfortable. I don't want to put him in a situation where it's too much right away, or we ask him to do too much. We'll have to see where he is [on Thursday]. That will be a deciding factor."
Regardless of how long Pennington plays, though, expect the starting offense to play a lot in this game - possibly even the entire first half. Sparano has stressed that getting some of the starters ample playing time is very important:
"We know there's a bunch of guys that are here, that are going to be here and they need to play more. A guy like Hagan needs to take more plays in a row; Ginn needs to take more plays in a row right now."
So I'd expect to see a lot more out of Teddy and Derek, as well as the entire offensive line. And I even bet that Ronnie Brown - despite coming off of a torn ACL, is going to get more then 3 or 4 touches in this game. The staff needs to start seeing these guys play and they need to start making plays.
How about we get this offense to look like an actual NFL offense, eh?
MATT ROTH EXPERIMENT
I said last week that I was quite unimpressed with the play of Matt Roth at outside linebacker during last week's game. He just seemed slow getting to the quarterback when he was asked to pass-rush and really lacks any kind of pass-rushing moves. However, he has continued to work at OLB this week and some practice reports claim that Roth continues to improve.
But the coaching staff has to decide in the next couple of weeks if Roth can indeed play the position. Why? Because it could very well influence some of their roster personnel decisions as cut-down time approaches. If they believe Roth can step in at OLB if needed, then they may decide to keep one less OLB and keep an extra player at another position instead. So keep a close watch on Roth when he lines up outside to see a) how he does when he is ran at - which is supposed to be what he is good a defending; and b) if his pass-rushing skills have improved at all.
DEFENSIVE IMPROVEMENTS
The 1st team defense looked pretty good last week. However, they need to show improvement this week against the Jaguars. And here's why. First off, the Dolphins are indeed preparing for this game at least a little bit, with both John Beck and Josh McCown working with the scout team on offense, running Jacksonville's plays against Miami's 1st and 2nd team defenses. So they should be more prepared than they were last week. Secondly, the Dolphins will likely get one of their key defensive players, Joey Porter, back. He sat out last week, mostly as a precaution, and will make his preseason debut.
Two of the areas where improvement is certainly needed are a) getting more consistent pressure on the QB; and b) getting off the field on 3rd down. About the QB pressure, the key is consistency. Sure, there were some plays last week where the Dolphins got to Tampa's QB, either sacking him or at least hurrying him. However, on other plays, the QB had literally all day to throw. And this Dolphins' secondary is nowhere near good enough in coverage for that. Numerous times, Tampa's QB had 4 or 5 seconds to throw the ball. That has to improve.
The other issue has been well documented since last week's preseason opener. The defense just could get off the field on 3rd downs, allowing Tampa to convert 11 of 20 3rd downs, which was why the Bucs ran nearly 30 more plays than the Dolphins did offensively. This was also a problem all season last year, so it'll be interesting to see if any emphasis has been put on 3rd downs this past week in practice.
QUICK HITS
Other things to look for on Saturday include:
-Dan Carpenter. He has the starting job wrapped up, but that doesn't mean the pressure is off him. Can he continue to kick accurately on FGs and will his kickoffs consistently get inside the 5 yard line?
-Speaking of special teams, how will Miami's coverage units perform? Last week was disappointing.
-And who will return kicks? Will Jayson Foster get more opportunities after an unimpressive performance last week? Davone Bess figures to get some chances as well. And we all know Ted Ginn has the potential to be a great return man.
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I have the feeling....
we’ll see a big improvement in many of the mentioned areas. Maybe not so much with Pennington because he’s been here such a short time.
Also, I think we’ll see less penalties. Hopefully a lot less.
Seriously?
by Daren on Aug 15, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just expect to see them start to look like a real football team. Last week’s game wasn’t very watchable to say the least. I think CP will help bring some consistency to the pssing game. I expect big games from the receivers. I think we can match up with Jacksonville for a half – should be fun to watch.
"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."
Coach Paul Bear Bryant
by AussieKen on Aug 15, 2008 1:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
vegas
put the largest line against the phins this sat.
http://www.wagerline.com/Scores-Odds/nfl.aspx?pos=7&t=0
no respect.
by YatilGinnJr on Aug 15, 2008 3:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well........
We gotta earn it to get it, and we sure havent done that yet! I want to see Henne with the first string against the Jag. 1st D show me what hes got.
by gafinfan on Aug 15, 2008 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
People bet on preason games???
11
y not if im wrong who will remember
by qbinfin on Apr 27, 2008 3:27 PM PDT
by DolfinPhan on Aug 15, 2008 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jags to tough?
I think the Jags are to tough for us.
But I still hope they win!
by Phinsguy99 on Aug 15, 2008 10:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And there you have it!!
Everybody now is making excuses for penniless. He has not play , yet, a down for us, and everybody is covering his a***s. He trhow a couple of int’s and everybody will be saying that he has been here for one week bla bla bla. If i remember well, he was brhough here because his familiarity with the playbook and been a dick tuna guy. This is a team with no direction and full of excuses.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)
by Aleta on Aug 15, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
also we had supreme cap space
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by finsxfactor on Aug 15, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gentlemen...
I believe we may have an interloper amongst us. I’m not going to say who it is right now, but this person makes negative comments in EVERY single post (hats off to Omar). We may be looking at some sort of Jets fan psy-op type of situation.
…to be continued.
by phranchise on Aug 15, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no no
That’s not fair. “Aleta” has been here for a while, including suffering through last year. If anything, he’s simply a “realist.”
by Matty I on Aug 15, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
matty what happend to you?
anyone makes fun of beck your supposed to give them a warning
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by finsxfactor on Aug 15, 2008 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SO!!!
NOW I’M A JETS FAN!!
You has to be kitting me.
This team is making the SAME THING we did last year, and now i’m supposes to be positive? or then been call a propeller.
I can not F***g beleive it.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)
by Aleta on Aug 15, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
easy turbo. :)
I know you’re not a jets fan. I know you are a fin fan.
:)
It just sounds like you are trying to find reasons that the fins will fail this year even before the start of the season.
Turn it around (just for giggles) and try to find some reason for hope and see what you can come up with.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 15, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
few questions to aleta
what does “kitting” mean…
how is the team making the “SAME THING” we did last year….what THING????!?!?!?!
and you spelled fucking wrong
its f***ing
not
f***g…
former thread comment champion
by finsxfactor on Aug 15, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank for the ...
spelling check finsxfactor , as you KNOW, my first language is SPANISH and English is my second.
BTW, finsxfactor , if you need some help spelling somethig in Spanish, you can ask me.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)
by Aleta on Aug 15, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
go easy on him Aleta
he’s only 9.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 15, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AHA!
Pennington was definitely not brought down because of his familiarity with the play book. He did work with Dan Henning (our O C) in 2000, his rookie season but from what I have read, he is really just learning the plays this week. Should he be expected to have mastered it already? Pretty tall order…
Aside from that, he is the most efficient passer in the NFL and has beaten the Dophins in 8 out of the last 9 games, all of a sudden he’s “Penniless?” He’s most probably our safest bet at QB right now.
This supposed “Aleta” may have been a mole last year and only now is springing his NY operation on us…
by phranchise on Aug 15, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he said penniless
because look
pennington
penni- + less
penniless
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by finsxfactor on Aug 15, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure!!
And BTW went we bhrough Dante Culpeper, EVERYBODY were saying and yelling his stats and what a great arm he has, and %‘s and #’s were thrown at will in this forum. WHAT HAPPEN WITH THAT? Something , that everybody here has agree in one form or another, in any given sunday, has veen that we need to star our OWN QB and STOP bringing the garbage from other teams.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)
by Aleta on Aug 15, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i lost track of what you said just because of the sheer inadecaquacy of your grammar
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by finsxfactor on Aug 15, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
About this comment
“Pennington was definitely not brought down because of his familiarity with the play book. He did work with Dan Henning (our O C) in 2000”
I remember about a post that somebody wrote here, that penniles was brought here because of the familiarity with the term and stuff like that from the playbook. Maybe i will go and look it for you phranchise, maybe not.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)
by Aleta on Aug 15, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All I'm sayin...
is that I don’t think anyone believes that we are winning the Superbowl this year. I am convinced that the “triumvirate” knows more than I do about the NFL and have had some success. call me an optimist, but I’m gonna give them a few years to try and build something before I start flaming the team in pre-season.
BTW, all in good fun, I do remember you from last season, you were more positive then if I remember, don’t give up hope!
by phranchise on Aug 15, 2008 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would go so far as to challenge anyone to a bet!
I will BET that the Dolphins do better than last year!
Anyone want to bet against me?
:)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 15, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is not that i'm giving up!!
it’s just frustrating, that what i beleived last year and after what we went threw, now i have started to see it again. I can not be that supportive this time. Last year, it drain a lot of my strengt. I’m preparing myself with patient and especting nothing, maybe a 0-16. Then, after the season and everybody in here asking for heats to roll, we will star to see again, maybe a new coach and a new drafted qb ect, same story. You know what is the name of my fantasy teams? Sad Story(SS) LOL and that name have been used by my for more than 5 years LOL
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)
by Aleta on Aug 15, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
seriously dude, think about this for a sec.
if you want to feel bad, go for it. some people are actually addicted to the chemical produced by negative thoughts and feelings.
BUT, if you want some reason for hope as a Fin Fan this season, ponder this:
- Coaching.
In my mind, enough said, but for the sake of discussion, the Dolphins should have won approximately 3.8 games last year according to statistical averages based upon points scored vs. points allowed. In fact, the Dolphins BARELY one 1 game, and that win involved luck beyond coaching (missed field goals, bad calls by the opponent). So even with the talent, injuries, etc, the Fins were major UNDERachievers last year… why? Cam, Capers, and Mularkey. Now if you are brutally honest, you can not believe that Sparano, with Parcells mentoring, is going to be as bad as the Pop Warner class of football coaching we saw last year! Heck, right from the conditioning programs, this team has been getting ready to play hard.
- Talent
This one is more subject to speculation, but with the exception of the loss of Taylor and Thomas, I don’t believe we lost anyone from last year’s team that was better than the talent we have today (including Feely). And personally, as much as I liked Zach, I felt like cutting him improved the team. Zach was an overachiever and that is a tough quality to maintain as you get older, not to mention that he has had a problem with concussions over the last few years. The only other guy I might have kept was Rex Hadnot, but I don’t rate him as better than either of our starting guards at the moment, so that a wash.
So, now look at the given upgrades. I say given because no one in their right mind can argue these:
Pennington, whether you like him or not, is better than any QB we had last year. Green might have ended up being better if he had played the whole season, but we’ll never know.
Jake Long is better than LJ Shelton, Damian McIntosh, or any of the other turnstyles we’ve had at the position for years.
Ferguson is better than Traylor or Soliai.
Now look at the impact players that are back, that we lost last season for various reasons:
Ricky is definitely a force to be reckoned with, if he stays clean and healthy
Ronnie was leading the NFL in yds from scrimmage when he got injured
Bell has shown that he has a knack for making plays. He’s a ball hawk, solid in run support, and can blitz. We were down to, what? our 6th string safety last year?
Goodman two years ago was our best CB, and never got to full speed last year
Lastly, let’s talk about the guys that should be better this year than last:
Ginn in his second year with a guy that can get him the ball
Porter who didn’t look healthy until the end of the season, and never really was used as a pass rush specialist in Capers’ Dumbdown D.
Satele was great as a rookie, and will be even better with a year under his belt.
Carey at RT
J Allen is getting his first real chance to start the season at Safety, in a system that will highlight his natural ability.
Lehan got the chance last year and showed he can ball. He is essentially coming into his second season as a starter if he gets healthy.
Fields… yeah I know, a punter. But the guy has serious leg, if he can become consistent in his second year.
Now there are some new guys that I think are upgrades at positions, but there is no real game data yet to say either way:
Bess, Anderson, Langford, Merling, and Fasano. I think (with the exception of JT) they are upgrades over last years spots on the depth charts, but we will have to wait and see.
So, riddle me this Batman….
The answer to this question is more than 5 and less than 6, but that answer can never be correct. What is the question?
Answer: How many games will the Dolphins win this year, according to the Vegas O/U?
Give it a think. :)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 15, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you want to bet?
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)
by Aleta on Aug 15, 2008 6:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
your manhood
and by the by….you seem like your struggling to find loyalty to stand by your team…and you know what we dont need to hear about it..go solve your personal problems at home while me and lcff plot about how we are going to mug you…
former thread comment champion
by finsxfactor on Aug 15, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leave me out of it. :)
Aleta has been a loyal member of The Phinsider for a while now. He’s a good guy. I might not agree with his opinion, but I can respect it.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 15, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My manhood
Danme!! those are STRONG WORDS for a man(?) like you LOL
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)
by Aleta on Aug 15, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nobody gets that joke
former thread comment champion
by finsxfactor on Aug 15, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i got it.
bet your manhood.
i just have one question. if you won, what would you do with it?
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 16, 2008 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My manhood??
Danme!! those are STRONG WORDS for a man(?) like you LOL
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)
by Aleta on Aug 15, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
still nobody gets that joke...
former thread comment champion
by finsxfactor on Aug 15, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank God, nobody got it..
I think is more of a regional joke.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)
by Aleta on Aug 15, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol but why'd you say it twice?
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by finsxfactor on Aug 15, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted to make a reply
but it went down, then i though that i didn’t press the reply botton and try it again, it put me at the bottom again, then i notice that all of the other post were replies to the same post LOL
Pretty idiotic of my part LOL
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)
by Aleta on Aug 15, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont see the humor in it
i just see you dilapatidation
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by finsxfactor on Aug 16, 2008 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can laught at myself
I’m pretty sure, you don’t have to laught at me, only if you want or if you make yourself able to do it.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)
by Aleta on Aug 16, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what the hell does
“dilapatidation” mean?
:)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 16, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We did it!!!
We scored a touchdown =) YESSSSSSS
by Dolfan 13 99 54 on Aug 16, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That is so sad it's funny.
That we could get SO excited over 1 TD…
Last year was a nightmare and I think I am just waking up.
:)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 17, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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