Dolphins to shop Beck and McCown

by Matty I on Aug 13, 2008 12:38 PM EDT in News Comment 54 comments

As if we didn't already know this, the Miami Herald is reporting that the Dolphins will indeed shop both John Beck and Josh McCown to see what they could get for either of them:

Former Tennessee Titans general manager Floyd Reese, now with ESPN, said the notion of the Dolphins keeping four quarterbacks is ''unrealistic and outrageous'' and believes they will get only a late-round pick for Josh McCown or John Beck, if that. ''I wouldn't think they would have much value,'' he said. Miami reportedly will gauge trade interest in both but is on the hook for McCown's $2.5 million signing bonus if he is traded or cut.

This really isn't surprising, to be honest. It's pretty much well-known that the Dolphins really aren't going to keep 4 quarterbacks on the roster heading into the season.

Also, don't think that McCown won't be the odd-man out here just because the Dolphins would have to eat his signing bonus. McCown is scheduled to make $6.25 million over the next 2 years. So cutting McCown, despite having to pay for a player no longer with the team, still saves the Dolphins cash.

However, there will likely be more interest in John Beck than in Josh McCown. Beck is younger and, at least in my view, is more of an unknown quantity with upside. And a team could very well take a look at Beck might be the Dallas Cowboys. There are some rumors that they are interested, and it would make a lot of sense. Beck has a similar style to Tony Romo and the Cowboys need a backup quarterback who isn't like 100 years old (Brad Johnson is their current backup).

The question now becomes if the Dolphins can actually get anything of value in return for either of these two quarterbacks if this is indeed the route the Dolphins want to take.

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For the Beck Groupies:

Told ya so…

by Natalya on Aug 13, 2008 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

natalya

i never liked you and never will….so shut ur face or ill make you

thread comment champion

by finsxfactor on Aug 13, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well said finsxfactor

just one question….

how exactly are you gonna make her? Tell your mom?
:)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 13, 2008 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and BTW Nat...

it ain’t over til it’s over. Beck may still end up here. Unless Cam decided to trade for him.
;)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 13, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

P.S...

Right now the dolphins would happily take a bag of used footballs, 1 dozen eggs, and a DUCK in exchange for John Beck :)

by Natalya on Aug 13, 2008 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

im sure they wouldnt

but i know your mom would have been glad to trade you for that at birth

thread comment champion

by finsxfactor on Aug 13, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

P.S...

natalya’s a bitch

thread comment champion

by finsxfactor on Aug 13, 2008 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

easy knuckles.

that kind of shit will get you kicked out of the fantasy league.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 13, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is there no age limit for this forum?

by joel311 on Aug 13, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

that question is obviously rhetorical, right?

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 13, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

at least

were not talking about the kicker anymore

by dlux2561 on Aug 13, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i have a offer for the dolphins...

i would like to offer free car washes for a year for John Beck.

I wanna get him in my backyard and have him throw me 3 yrd passes alllllll dayyyy loonnnggg so i can enjoy John Beck everyday..not just Sunday.

I have a friend who would like to offer a gameboy and a tape walkman

Its Sunday afternoon.....do you know where your beer is?

by Rzayo24 on Aug 13, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

TRADE THEM BOTH

trade em…release em….waive em….i dont care. get them outta here. our 3rd string needs to be a guy like colt brennan or a fast slash type guy

Its Sunday afternoon.....do you know where your beer is?

by Rzayo24 on Aug 13, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah yeah! Colt Brennan! Now there is a QB that is worthy of the 3rd string position!

Get him in here! Maybe we can do a straight across, 2 for 1 trade!

;)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 13, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

brennan 2 dbess

could had that combo for pennies!!!!!

shhhhhhhhhhhh dont tell anyone leftcoast..im hoping we get vick when hes done…thats a 3rd qb huh?

Its Sunday afternoon.....do you know where your beer is?

by Rzayo24 on Aug 13, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

lol shhhhhhhhhhhhhh

(im with you)

thread comment champion

by finsxfactor on Aug 13, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

gee Nat, it seems...

... that your unabashed commitment to ‘truth’ is earning you a ‘fanbase’ lol… well i can personally put forth that though i’m not always …appreciative… of your brutal candor in posting, [sometimes it just plain hurts… i mean, for instance, i was a closet Beck fan… hell it still hurts i think… lol] howeverrrrr… i can speak for myself at least and put forth that i certainly admire you and your sometimes unpopular yet well researched opinions and insights are appreciated to no seeming end…. not to mention that u seem to have a real knack for posting ‘tomorrows headlines’ lol…..so, on that note, ... nany nany boo hoo on you cus i gots candyyyyyyyy & u don’t so there!!! : p : p : p

by Krab on Aug 13, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't think it was the first

mistake by this administration, but a $ 2.5 million guaranteed bonus for McCown??
What were they thinking? Was anybody even competing for his services (I use that term loosely) It make’s Penne’s $ 4 million with $ 500,000 guaranteed look like a great deal.

by ATS16 on Aug 13, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Remember!!

This is a great coaching staff, don’t question there decisions!!
Be like Nat!! a really good follower!!, even if you are marching to the toilet.

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Aug 14, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So Actually....

Nat is one of the more cynical members here, generally, but she is pretty grounded in fact. But if you remember last season, she was one of the first (and most vocal) detractors of Señor Cameroon, when many of us (yes, myself included) were still singing a chorus of “Give Cam a Chance” (in A minor).

Me on the other hand? I tend to try to err on the side of patience and optimism, and in that regard, I think it is silly for you to cry gloom and doom before the season has started. You might very well end up being correct, that Bill P and Company have no idea what they are doing, no control over the team, and will untimately fail. But I just don’t see how you can come to the conclusion without seeing the first regular season game played.

You surely must recognize that these guys have had a lot of football success over the years, and have accumulated a lot of football knowledge, and have a lot more first hand information about the team and talent than you are I (or anyone on this blog) can possibly have access at this point.

So my assumption is that Bill knows more than me, and that I will start to get an accurate view of the New Dolphins when I can start watching them play some real games.

In the meantime, settle down Beavis.
:)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 14, 2008 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't mind seeing them both go...

... but I still think it makes more sense to hold onto McCown. He’s more likely to provide a steady back up role to Chad, and that will keep Henne off the field this season- which I feel is important. If Chad plays well and stays healthy, then slot Henne ad the #2 next season and go from there.

As for the great Nat debate—always nothing but love over here. Even if I don’t always see things the same way.

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by NumberSeven on Aug 13, 2008 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

McCown... Beck...

My preference is the team keep Beck and try, for this season, to groom him into a backup QB.

IMO, Pennington is here to lead the team thru 2008 season and I see Henne as the QB of the future. And if Pennington gets himself injured, I see Henne getting a rush-education as a starting QB in the NFL. I like Henne – and see him being a good QB in the NFL.

IMO, McCown, even with his experience, will be the one released by the trade deadline (in October) if not sooner.

by NumberOneFan on Aug 13, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I would try to trade Beck for Quinn. Then we could have Ginn and Quinn!!

That would rule!

by mike2744 on Aug 13, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

and I'd like to bone Jessica Biel

but thats not gonna happen

Why so serious?

by Patssuck456 on Aug 13, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know her.

I could introduce you.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 14, 2008 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

With their statement it's obviuos both our gone!

Parcells & company don’t want Beck or McCown….they will be gone….I wouldn’t mind them bringing in Simms!
Beck had his chances…with more time he might have shown something….but as they say….time is not on his side!

by MassFinFan65 on Aug 13, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Next 3rd stringer...

Cleo Lemon’s probably gonna get cut…LOLOLOLOL

We're talkin' about PRACTICE....practice!

by hotrod43 on Aug 13, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Maybe we could trade Beck for Lemon?

Kidding, of course. Jacksonville would never go for that.

www.thephinisher.com

by The Phinisher on Aug 13, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

plus cam cam wants cleo in baltimore

he’d definitely go to #1 on the depth chart

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by NumberSeven on Aug 13, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe...

Beck to the Vikings for Gus Frerotte?

www.thephinisher.com

by The Phinisher on Aug 13, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

no

thread comment champion

by finsxfactor on Aug 13, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

NO MORE QBS!

Let’s talk about kickers some more.
;)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 13, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Penny and Henne both struggled today...

Thought for sure I would see folks all over this board whining how this was a bad pickup and draft pick, etc… Parcells will forever be linked to this draft, can’t believe they gave up on Beck for Henne, why the hell pay McClown so much guaranteed cash…..

Hmm…

Definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

by azphinner on Aug 13, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah! I agree with you!

This draft stunk! And what the hell did they pick up two guys named Chad for? 1 is bad enough!

Beck will end up being the starter once Parcells pulls his head out of his ass.

(Beck’s head that is)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 13, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

EXACTLY MY POINT!!!

How the hell can you have two QBs on the roster named Chad??? Do you know what kind of confusion that will cause during practices, meetings, etc? For that reason alone they ought to go with McClown or Beck!! Bring back Damon Huard for goodness sake, at least he had a different name.

I can picture this now – coaches yelling – “Chad get your helmet on you are going in”... Both players get their helmets on and run in and we get called for a penalty for too many men in the huddle. This is REALLY BAD folks..

Not sure what the hell the braintrust here was thinking. This is 2 straight bad practices for Henne. (DAMN! It even sounds like Penny) 2 Straight bad practices. If he plays bad against Jax this weekend, he needs to go onto the scout team…

Definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

by azphinner on Aug 14, 2008 12:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I have nothing more to add to this..

you just about made me spit my drink all over my laptop.
:)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 14, 2008 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

quarterbacks

by Phinsguy99 on Aug 14, 2008 6:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

There are some big mis-under standings in this post. Fistly, John Beck will not be a starter. Simply Josh Mcown will. And the Cowboys if Tony Romo gets injured there in some big trouble. Face the facts Johnson you stink.

by Phinsguy99 on Aug 14, 2008 6:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dude glad to have you here.

Let me catch you up real quick:

- Everyone pretty much agrees that Chad Pennington will the starter, and Chad Henne currently looks like #2.
- Josh McCown will NOT be the starter, and may not even be on the team.
- John Beck also may not be on the team, but may have more trade value than McCown.
- Miami will almost definitely NOT keep 4 QBs.
- Of the two potential #3 guys, one of them (Josh or John) will be outta here soon.

SOOOO…. most of these discussions are randomly humorous, pointless (but kill the time til the next game), and occasionally sincere about which of the 2 #3 QB has the most potential and will remain in Miami.
Don’t take any of this too seriously at this point.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 14, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs