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The QB Quandry; and other notes

So what happens now?

That's the question that many Dolphin fans are pondering as the 3rd week of training camp gets underway.  And now more than ever, there are even more question marks surrounding the most important position on the field.  Sure, John Beck had a solid, if unspectacular, preseason opener.  And Chad Henne looked quite good against Tampa Bay's 2nd team defense.  But now we add into the mix a Bill Parcells favorite: Chad Pennington.

Truth be told, the acquisition of Pennington is beginning to grow on me.  Not because I don't believe in the two young guys we already got, but because Pennington is clearly an upgrade over Josh McCown.  Pennington, at the very least, will not make too many mistakes. 

He's a smart player and I offer up this article as an example.  It's a breakdown that supposedly shows that Pennington throws the deep ball with more success than Brett Favre.  And it was written to put to bed the idea that Penning lacks arm strength.  Well, that's not what this article is showing.  Even a player who doesn't have great arm strength and can still chuck it deep.  The arm strength of a QB really comes into play when trying to squeeze a ball into tight spots or when throwing a pattern like a deep out, which allows the cornerback in coverage to make a break on the ball before it gets to the receiver.  What that article does show, however, is that Pennington makes very good decisions when taking chances down the field.  He doesn't force long throws like a gunslinger (a la Favre) would do.  And at this stage, a smart veteran QB is what this team needs.

Speaking of what this team needs, I can tell you what it doesn't need: 4 quarterbacks on the roster.  However, Tony Sparano seems to be telling us to expect Miami to keep all 4 QBs for at least a little while - and possibly into the regular season.  But I don't get it?  Wasn't Sparano worried about not having enough snaps for 3 QBs on the roster?  Now he's going to keep 4 and divide the reps among all of them?  Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather McCown's snaps get divided among the 2 young QBs (because young guys need reps) and Pennington (to develop chemistry with new players).  From where I stand, it just doesn't make sense for McCown to remain in camp right now.

PREPARE FOR TOUGH PRACTICES AHEAD
That's the message for everybody on the roster right now.  This week is going to be a very big week.  Now it's time to figure out who will and who won't be around anymore come September.  And according to Sparano, it's time to tell it like it is:

“We’re kind of out of the hurtin’ people’s feelings business right now. We’re getting into the real deal.”

Among those positions where improvement is much needed are wide receiver and special teams.  Kick and punt coverage was very disappointing on Saturday night and Tony Sparano and company will not tolerate that.  As for the receivers, everyone outside of Ted Ginn should be on notice: dropped balls are completely unacceptable and Sparano seems to be losing his patience with it.

This is surely going to be a fun week ahead - for us fans, not so much for the players - as we head towards preseason game #2.

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When Tony talks..

People better listen. Cuts are coming up!
August 26 – Roster cutdown to maximum of 75 players!
August 30 – Roster cutdown to maximum of 53 players!

Bada Bing!

by Jersquall on Aug 12, 2008 12:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sparano admitted

he’s worried about the snaps in the presser this morning???
my guess is the democratic snap count has come to an end… and today will be the standard.
Penny getting most of the first team snaps in an effort to get him up to speed, Henne will get the
leftovers as the coaches try to figure out if he is truely ready to take over the team (allowing them to cut beck and/or mccown), and the other two get what they can.

by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 12, 2008 12:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This weekend

Chad P will probably get into the game but does Tony S drop each QB into each quarter during the game? I wonder…

by Jersquall on Aug 12, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not likely

they have to start focusing on getting the team ready to play… game 4 is for the cut liners…. so they have 2 games left
and expect penny to play the 1st half, and henne to play most of the rest.

by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 12, 2008 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would like that

Just hope he has enough playbook in his head to play a half.

by Jersquall on Aug 12, 2008 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unbelievable...

I have NEVER heard so many folks argue about who will be their teams 3rd string QB before…

We should be happy we finally have someone here who appears to know how to play the position. Been a while since we said that.

Definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

by azphinner on Aug 12, 2008 12:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The 2 young QBs (because young guys need reps)

LOL. We gave 1 young QB, Henne. Please say anything good about Beck that you can find, but don’t try to pass him off as young. Inexperienced maybe, but not young.

Are you picking up what I'm putting down?

by Neo on Aug 12, 2008 1:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Unless Beck starts playing with the spirit of Joseph Smith in him....

he’s done.

Tuna and Co knew what they got in Pennington – a very accurate passer who is also injury prone. They’ll still want a veteran to turn the team over to if/when Pennington goes down and that’s McCown. At that point he’ll be on a short leash if Henne builds on his performance against the Bucs. One could even argue that Henne showed us more on those few preseason possessions that Beck has in his short and so far dismal NFL career. Its hard to develop one qb during practice and preseason, much less two, so sooner than later, we’ll need to pick the one we think has the best chance and stick with him until he proves one way or the other what he’s capable of

I know lots of folks like Beck, and I have nothing against him, but its hard for me to understand this allegiance that people have developed for him without really even seeing him play very much football. Sparano said you don’t need the qb to win the game for you. Well you sure need the qb to not lose the game, and as much as we’re in rebuilding mode, my insides twist and turn with every loss. I don’t want the premature development of any qb to come at the cost of winning games and that means having some vets on the team ahead of that 1 guy you’re developing who will minimize mistakes and keep your defense from being on the field all the time. Oh, and please don’t tell me that rebuilding means you want less wins resulting in higher draft picks…you can do as much with a 6th rounder as you might get out of a 1st rounder (see Donald Thomas vs. all of our drafts for the last 8 years)

by winplease on Aug 12, 2008 1:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well

He played 4 games in less then favorable conditions and with a crappy team around him.
Plus rookies kind of have a habit of struggling in their first year, maybe playing him did screw him though or maybe he’ wasnt that good to begin with who knows?

I dont get the animosity the guy gets though.

Why so serious?

by Patssuck456 on Aug 12, 2008 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

J. Beck

’’I know lots of folks like Beck, and I have nothing against him, but its hard for me to understand this allegiance that people have developed for him without really even seeing him play very much football.’’ -winplease

I dont think there are that many Quack Beck fans left here.. He had his chance like everyone else and he is going to possibly be the odd man out. I had high hopes for him but I think I am a Chad fan now. Which Chad? Take your pick.

by Jersquall on Aug 12, 2008 1:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I still would rather have Beck on the roster than McCown

I can’t stand McCown, and i know what his potential is, whereas Beck might still improve. All things the same, I would rather get rid of McCown.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 12, 2008 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Feely

Reportedly released according to ProFootballTalk.com. The way Carpenter has been going, it would make sense to me.

by nriehl on Aug 12, 2008 9:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Really, who cares about Beck anymore

(or McCown) – these guys will be either cut, traded, or running the scout team at best.

So what we have then is Pennington getting the majority of the reps with Henne getting what’s left over.

Provided he’s healthy, the Pennington move is solid. Unlike Trent Green who was old and off his worst season or Pepp coming off a terrible injury – Pennington is in good shape (kicking the tires sort to speak).

The biggest problem I’m seeing now is the absolute lack of consistency with the receivers. If these guys keep playing at the mediocre level we are presently seeing – dropping passes etc – then Ricky & Ronnie will surely be greeted with 8 man fronts on almost every down. Ginn really needs to show he is a #1 receiver because we certainly don’t otherwise have one. Wilford needs to get some separation on his routes and be a bit more fluid plus hold on to the ball. With Hagan it is getting to be an old story – great size and great practices translating into drops and being invisible on game day.

by Natalya on Aug 12, 2008 9:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I do dammit!

I want Matty to draft him on his FF team!
:)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 12, 2008 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I GET NO LOVE!!!!! I POSTED THIS ALREADY MATTY I!!

NO LOVE…I STINKIN FOUND THIS ARTICLE AND POSTED IT YESTERDAY.

I SHOULD WORK FOR YOU MATTY

Its Sunday afternoon.....do you know where your beer is?

by Rzayo24 on Aug 12, 2008 12:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeap you did post it...

the one showing where Pennington is more successful, per throw, than Favre on deep passes.

by Natalya on Aug 12, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hopefully

Beck and McCown will both be cut when we sign Chris Simms later on this month.

by obiandandy on Aug 12, 2008 12:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not like i wrote it or anything...

but i thought it was a cool lil find by espn. those numbers dont lie. just cuz it isnt hard doesnt mean it isnt deep….pennington is a lethal…ninja like qb…..NINJA LIKE ACCURACY

Its Sunday afternoon.....do you know where your beer is?

by Rzayo24 on Aug 12, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And we are still transfixed on who the 3rd QB will be for the Dolphins...

Unbelievable. Whoever it is probably won’t even see the field this year, yet you folks are arguing like they will play 70% of the downs…

Definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

by azphinner on Aug 12, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

cuz it's fun!

don’t rain on our parade!
;)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 12, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THE POINT IS........

WHOMEVER ISNT THE 3RD QB WILL BE CUT. SO IT MATTERS. CHILLAX

Its Sunday afternoon.....do you know where your beer is?

by Rzayo24 on Aug 12, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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