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Monday Morning Practice Reports

Only one practice today, as things get really interesting entering week 3 of training camp.

PALM BEACH POST PRACTICE REPORT
Highlights include:

-Chad Pennington and Chad Henne getting most of the team reps and both seem to have good days
-Joey Porter, Charlie Anderson, and Vonnie Holliday not practicing
-Matt Roth still working as OLB
-Ernest Wilford drops a pass during WR drills with nobody covering
-Pennington throws an INT during one-on-one drills and then another during 11-on-11
-Ted Ginn getting more involved in the offense, which is a good sign
-11-on-11 redzone drills: Pennington throws a TD and an INT; Beck throws a TD
-Final QB stats: Pennington 13/21, 1 or 2 TDs and 1 INT; Henne 9/15, 1 INT; Beck 1/1, 1 TD; McCown 1/3

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SUN-SENTINEL PRACTICE REPORT
Highlights include:

-Pennington's performance was called "the best I'd seen all camp" by Omar Kelly
-Pennington Showed great accuracy and anticipation
-Henne was "hot and cold as usual"
-Davone Bess has been moved up the depth chart, working in the slot with the first team

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penniless showing

why he was SO NEEDED in NY. Is good to have a leftover teaching how to trhow more INT’s to our drafted QB’s
This shows that our coaching staff is clueless and are failing to themself, the org , the players and the fans. Thay are trying to do what it WAS DONE last year, the result will be the same.

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Aug 11, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

relax there bojangels

you would rather see McClown? At least Pennington has done something somewhere…Mclown not so much

Its Sunday afternoon.....do you know where your beer is?

by Rzayo24 on Aug 11, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You are right!!

What is worse? a lot of st or a pile of st? obviously, a pile of s*t is worse. Thank for the reasoning

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Aug 11, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Be Calm!!!

It’s only the first day for ChP, imagine to change totally your life, your things, your WRs and OL in only 5 days… New faces (and new hands), new plays, etc.

What The Dolphins need right now it’s the fans trust them, and they have to trust in their QB, CHP is here to do that.

What we don’t need is mistakes at crucial momments in the game… so we can win those 5 or 6 games that we lose for less that 3 points last year. That’s why we need more Depth at QB. ChP will deliver stability… even if he does not deliver big plays..

by omontero75 on Aug 11, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WHY

do you people want to win 6 games this year and not traing, In real playing time, the drafted qb’s? You approved to bring a leftover to take time from our , SUPPOSE , future. SO basically we are going to win 6 games and then next year, Henne will win 1 game for us and if he failed, then we will draf another qb. I think, cut the BS and put Henne now, and if he failed, by the 5th game sit his @s* down and realise him or trade him, and next year, draf another qb.

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Aug 11, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Put Henne in now?

John Beck. Ring a bell? He was thrust into playing last year and I seriously think it damaged his confidence. Am I wrong? Let Henne watch and learn and put him in if the game is out of reach for any team and bring him along slowly no?

by Jersquall on Aug 11, 2008 4:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I Agree

The Qbs situation is an investment, you have to take care of it, remember that this is the most important posistion in the game, and the choosen one needs to have trust, accuracy an eventually experience.

Henne will have is opportunity, when the time is right. It’s better for him to have solid team when he get’s that chance. And not now that team is on the line of beeing bad or acceptable.

I’m a fan fo Beck, but I believe that he is near to left the team. I hope it could happen soon, because it’s better for him.

by omontero75 on Aug 11, 2008 4:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes because

playing marino,manning (both), elway, and montana as rookies ruined them….

the cream rises my friend, and the $#@& stinks

by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2008 6:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry, but reality is...

Those guys come along once every 10 years. And NOBODY had better say that Beck or Henne or anyone in this stable is equivalent to ANY of the names mentioned by WNYFF…

Marino didn’t start the season as a rookie also he went in midway through the season in relief..

Definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

by azphinner on Aug 11, 2008 6:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmmm...

I seem to remember he started mid-way through his rookie year….

and how do we know that Henne won’t be as good as those guys, or at least we won’t know until he plays?

by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's playing now...

I’ll repeat my statement – Marino didn’t start the season as a rookie, he went in midway through the season in relief… (He didn’t come out until he busted his achilles…)

Is Henne or will he be as good as the others???

Prove it now during pre-season while he is going to get the playing time… If not, ride the pine and learn the speed of the game while Pennington wins us some games and builds the confidence of this team. (Which is BEYOND in need) Then we will go draft another QB next year to compete with them…

Definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

by azphinner on Aug 12, 2008 12:31 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

are you saying marino didn't

start any games his rookie year (in which case you need to check your facts) or are you saying he didn’t start game 1 of his rookie year (which is correct) but he started very early in the season and it was against the Bills…

by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 12, 2008 12:50 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Game 1...

Definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

by azphinner on Aug 12, 2008 12:55 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or maybe

cam-cam realized that Beck wasn’t particularly good and thus kept him on the scout team.

by Natalya on Aug 11, 2008 5:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nat

You remember how it was last year. Cam did not even seem in control after 6 games. Lting his staff call plays. Sending in Beck was a desperation call when Lemon-ade wasnt really doing much. I just think Beck was a tool to spark the offense. It made my mouth drop watching him fumble snaps and over throwing his targets. That being said, I also cheered when he did well. He just wasnt consistant. A very rookie move. Coming into this season I thought and hoped the best for Beck. Evidently I was in error… I7 hope he pulls it together as a Fin or even with another team.

by Jersquall on Aug 11, 2008 5:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe he'll put it together

somewhere, sometime but I seriously doubt it will be with the dolphins. He’s either (at best) running our scout team as the #3 guy or flat out off the team.

I think Beck was quite consistent last year – consistently bad and I’m afraid what’s telling is that he got worse with more starts, not better.

Had Leo the Lemon not injured himself, Beck would have ended up the season leading 0 TD drives.

by Natalya on Aug 11, 2008 5:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sad

But agreed. Pretty tough watching a high draft choice go this direction.

by Jersquall on Aug 11, 2008 5:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Results of crappy coaching.

Pure and simple.

Definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

by azphinner on Aug 12, 2008 12:31 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can you blame coaching

when the guy can’t hang onto the ball? 7 fumbles while playing in only part of 5 games….
plus the guy didn’t have the team behind him (you may blame the coach for that a little) but how
does a coach tell the team they have to like the guy?

by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 12, 2008 12:52 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seems Tiki Barber had fumbling problems as well...

Yet, Coaching fixed that problem.

How does the coach tell the team they have to like the guy???

Not sure where this comes from. So you are saying that nobody on the team likes Beck? Are you a member of the team? Are you in the locker room every day and at every practice, etc?

Definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

by azphinner on Aug 12, 2008 12:59 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow...

You really have no idea how the game of football in the NFL works, do you? This was Chad P’s first time doing anything with this team… He played outstanding for that simple reason. That would be like you going out and throwing to those same people. You would have no idea about how they play, and you would have 0% chemistry with them. Also, putting Chad Henne in there right away is asking for him to fail… he needs time to DEVELOP. That is a key word in the NFL, if you didn’t know…

~>JDPhinFan<~

by JDPhinFan on Aug 11, 2008 6:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Beck or McCown

one or both are the proverbial ‘dead man walking’

by Natalya on Aug 11, 2008 5:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah But He Got A Touchdown!!!

Next game all they need to do is give Beck four or five snaps and they should be able to win.

;-)

www.thephinisher.com

by The Phinisher on Aug 11, 2008 5:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that would be jhole

right???

4 or 5 snaos is good for 1 fumble and maybe a pick?

by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2008 5:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah and don't forget

the coaches are out to sabotage beck, he hasn’t had enough time, he’s getting a raw deal, the o-line won’t block for him, and er, um, yeah that’s about it.

THat perfectly explains why the regime a) drafted a QB with a high draft pick, b) signed CP.

Obviously they know what they have in Beck (not much).

by Natalya on Aug 11, 2008 5:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's easier to believe that the coaching staff

know what they are doing, but then, you can just look at history. New HC without any expirience at the helm, looking for a vet QB to teach(?) the new drafted QB, wr that cann’t cach the ball, no secondary, no stoping the run. WAIT!! this just happen LAST year, to bad you didn’t notice.

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Aug 11, 2008 6:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ton Sparano & Bill Parcells

Are a little different than Cam Cameron & Randy Mueller.

Want to know how?

Cam Cameron was arrogant and Randy Mueller was frivolous.

Sparano is humble and Parcells is a genius.

Add to that the lack of conditioning and HEY PRESTO! You have last year.

www.thephinisher.com

by The Phinisher on Aug 11, 2008 7:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

don't forget

Sparano also has a vet running the offense for him… i’d have to say that the current staff is a heck of a lot more organized, prepared, and knowlegeable about all things football, than the staff cam put together last year….

Cam was an obvious rookie head coach, and he had the rookie coaching mistakes/scars, to prove it…

this staff looks like they’ve done this before.

by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It shows the great KNOWLEDGE!! LOL

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Aug 11, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes...

It was a jhole. A very dry jhole at that.

;-)

www.thephinisher.com

by The Phinisher on Aug 11, 2008 6:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rest easy yall

I’ve been a dolfan since 16-0 and went through the WoodStrock years, nothing flashy but affective. Then we all got spoiled with Marino. since then its been a patchwork QB one after the other, Plus the choices at HC havent been all that great. So with that being said I would rather have CP manage the game and be as successful as we can and allow Henne or Beck or both to sit back and learn like they should. We as a franchise are not alone in the legend QB to replace I mean look at Denver, Buffalo San FRan and now GB they all have to and have had to try aand replace a legend and they struggle at finding one too. its just they’ve had more success because of good HC there we havent. But for me I’d be willing to go back through the woodstrock era if I knew Henne could be atleast half to 3/4 of what Marino was. Besides being a fan is to support your team not allways condemn them.Cause if the O-Line can give Cp time and not have him always rushed and if R/R express can get going the futeure will be ours again and the AFC East will go through Miami like its supposed to.

by dupont85 on Aug 11, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

beck is

fighting for his career…

McCown will get picked up someplace else… he is easily better then scorgi or cassel, granted that isn’t much of a hill to climb so to speak.

by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2008 7:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If I had to guess...

I’d say Beck is out of the NFL in a maximum of 2 years.

He seems like a nice kid who will have plenty to do outside of football: chartiy work, etc.

by Natalya on Aug 11, 2008 7:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nat, I spected from you a comment, of Beck, like this

He seems like a nice kid who will have plenty to do outside of football like “eaten by a lion in a mission” stuff LOL

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Aug 11, 2008 8:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't Forget...

...watching film. Though that will get expensive: having to buy all those game tapes from the NFL.

www.thephinisher.com

by The Phinisher on Aug 11, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SCORGI?????

You mean Sorgi.. Is McClown better than Sorgi? Highly doubtful.

Definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

by azphinner on Aug 12, 2008 12:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

John Beck to be a COWBOY???

It is Very Very possible!! I waqs listening to the ticket in dallas and the Talk show was talking about how Dallas had sent scouts the the Pre season game to check him out (as for McCown) But they like Beck a lot more… Tony Romo Has NOTHING right now as a back up and they need another good QB besides Romo. Talk shoe guys where very excited with the idea and if he is released the cowboys will almost certainley scoop him. I hope to hell they do becasue once again I HATE Bill Parcells. So you idiots that think Beck will be fighting for his career or that he will be out of the NFL in 2 years…you can kick yourself in the nuts>>>.

by calypso99 on Aug 11, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know how important the QB is but.....

we have alot of young players and they need some stability. I personally hate Chad P. since I live in NY and go to lots of Jets games but he is consistant and usually does not turn the ball other. Actually he is the most accurate QB in NFL history and throws an extremely catchable ball (my sisters could prob snag some of those lame ducks). Anyway we have a young offensive line and bad wr’s that drop everything so as chad is not the long term answer he is a viable short term solution. We need a leader and as great as Henne’s command in the huddle might be no vet wants to play for a rookie and this team is not built for a rookie to be under the helm with this young line. Our QB needs to be able to read the D and call out blitzes…..a rookie can not do that effectively! Its going to be a long season so run the ball and run it some more then maybe we can playaction and pick up a few yards in the air. Chad P would be a great QB IF he just had an arm

by strider0469 on Aug 11, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good football talk I cant

wait until next week when keyshawn is brought in and or Terry Glenn. This FO is far from done with this roster, if you hate the moves over the weekend stick around its gonna get crazy in here….....I love this FO every move they make is to improve the team without worrying about what anyone thinks. Build your team Fellas!!!!! I cant wait to see the finished product…......

by jvw on Aug 11, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You see what you want too see...

Pennington had a cruddy day today, despite what anyone else says… and its okay cause it was his first practice. But dont tell me it was the best performance of camp. How many interceptions??? Just because he completed some passes, or threw a TD, thats what you choose to see and talk about. Any other QB does that, and we bring out the nose! Thats garbage! Also, if you want to talk stellar, not that im even promoting him, but look at what Beck did today. Nearly perfect through out drills (Ernest dropped a ball) and with so little to work with with minimal snaps made the best of them. Im just saying, all you who are so short sighted, you cant see past the end of your noses, and think YOU know what we have in each QB are full of CRAP. The only 2 people we know, or could know are Pennington and McCown. No one has seen Henne in a real game, full speed, starters on both side of the ball, and in an unfriendly environment (like Philly or Pittsburg). Yeah I know, he played in the big house at the Uof M… and how bout that record of his??? Not that impressed… his best game might have been his last against UF. The rest? Ask a buckeye if they would rather play against Henne or any other QB… can you say 0-4. Well done. Look, not to kill Henne, I hope he succedes, but chill out, and lets see what we really have here. It may take a while. Satistics is probably way to deep for most people on this board, but just because you flip a coin 5 times and it comes out heads each time, doesnt mean it will always land heads… Sample size is small, and therefore Henne, nor Beck for that matter can correctly, with any bit of certainty be evaluated correctly. Dont go throwing your “I know…” crap around, and let time be the judge!

by Dolphinatic on Aug 12, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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