Channing Crowder wants his money, but will he get it?
There's an interesting little nugget in Barry Jackson's latest "Sports Buzz" column. Here's what is said about Channing Crowder and his future in Miami:
The Dolphins have not responded to inquiries from Channing Crowder's agent about a new contract, and with Crowder set to become an unrestricted free agent next spring, the situation bears monitoring. Crowder's camp believes he's being seriously underpaid. With a $1 million base salary for this season, he's tied for fourth with Reggie Torbor among the team's linebackers behind linebacker/defensive end Jason Taylor ($7.5 million), Joey Porter ($4.8 million) and Akin Ayodele ($2.5 million).
It's understandable that Channing feels that he's underpaid. But he needs to understand that football is a business. Why would the Dolphins invest any more money into Crowder when he really hasn't been a stand-out player?
The thing with Crowder is that he has the ability - there's no doubt about it. But he just hasn't proven to this point that he can be a difference maker in a defense. And that's why the Dolphins shouldn't be in any rush to offer him a long-term contract.
Just look at his stats compared to Akin Ayodele's through Ayodele's first 3 years in the league. Crowder has more tackles (266 to 262), but has fewer "difference-making plays." Crowder has more tackles for a loss through their first 3 NFL seasons (7.5 to 6). But Ayodele has more sacks (6 to 1.5), interceptions (3 to 0), passes defensed (10 to 8), and forced fumbles (4 to 2). So for Crowder to think he deserves more money than even a slightly above average player like Ayodele seems like a bit of a reach to me.
And the bottom line here is that Crowder's play has actually tailed off over his first 3 seasons, if anything. If you look at his numbers, you'd say that year #2 was his best one so far. And if you watch him on the field, it's clear to me that once Zach Thomas went down to an injury, Crowder didn't step in and play well - like most thought he would. He disappointed. And that's why it just doesn't make sense for the Dolphins to commit to Channing at this point.
Don't get me wrong, I like Crowder as a player. But this front office shouldn't work out any long-term contract with him until he proves that he can take his game up to the next level and become that solid inside linebacker that some think he can become. I think the Dolphins need to let the impending free agency act as a motivator to Crowder. Let's see how he performs when there's clearly money at stake. Then, at some point during the season, if the Dolphins are liking what they are seeing, that's when you lock up Crowder with a long-term extension.
Agreed? Or am I just totally off on this one?
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Agreed....
Players hungry for respect or a new contract always play harder. Even if he does hit FA, he’s not going to get Joey Porter or Calvin Pace money.
As we’ve said about so many different players, in a player friendly defense this is a make or break year.
"Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark, professionals built the Titanic." -Unknown
by Daren on Jul 9, 2008 12:04 PM EDT 0 recs
yup!
That’s pretty much the opinion I had last time we discussed Crowder (couple of months back?), and I’ve had no reason to change it. Last season, Crowder was no better than any of the “Zach backups” we have had over the past few seasons, however I believe he has the potential to be very good. I cut him a little slack over last year, in that he did not seem to be self motivated, and let himself develop a WGaF attitude when the team started to go down the tubes. And Cam did nothing to motivate players. So if Crowder can take pride in playing 110% ALL the Time, regardless of the score, just because it’s his job (like Zach), he should develop into a solid player.
My concern is that he will get some money and slack off.
I could seem them signing him now to a long term, performance based contract, with no guaranteed money, but high upside if he performs. Otherwise, see how he plays the first half of the season, and then talk about it… but I don’t think I would work a deal that gives him a ton of guaranteed money based on his performance to date, even if he plays well this season.
IMO
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Jul 9, 2008 12:14 PM EDT 0 recs
I'm with Left exactly
Let him prove himself through the first half of the year and then start talking. The only thing to keep in mind is that he isn’t any different than any other player on the team for the last several years…..new coaches, new schemes, etc. I think you have to cut him a little slack based on that but not use it as an excuse. Other than JT and Zach, nobody has performed at an above average level. I like the guy too and think he can get the job done very well so if I were the FO I’d talk him up, pat him on the back and tell him we love him but he’s going to have to show us something first.
mophins
by mophins on Jul 9, 2008 12:32 PM EDT 0 recs
Crowder's Attitude
I don’t know if it’s just me, but he seems to have a lackadaisical attitude. He’s a contract year player. He’ll do good this year, get a nice payday, then slack off. You need talent AND hard work.
by gophish on Jul 9, 2008 12:43 PM EDT 0 recs
Point taken
but that may have been a result of only needing to follow Zach’s lead. I’d compare that a little bit to how Beck recently said he was told that he would sit for a year no matter what and then thrust into the starting position. I don’t think he was prepared to be a leader mentally yet. Being a good number 2 guy or support guy is a lot easier than being THE guy. The question I have and I think a lot of us have is if he can now be THE guy with Zach gone. Can he be the leader on defense? Nobody can say for sure but I’d have to think that the new regime feels like he can based on letting Zach go.
mophins
by mophins on
Jul 9, 2008 12:52 PM EDT
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Channing the Student
He has had the opportunity to learn from Zach, JT, and Porter. With his physical abilities he should have a play making season.
by gophish on
Jul 9, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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that's why you give him an incentive based contract.
if he makes his incentives through performance, he has the ability to be paid like a top end LB. If not, he gets paid like he plays.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on
Jul 9, 2008 1:13 PM EDT
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I wish
that were true for all players. They will all seek the most guaranteed money possible.
by gophish on
Jul 9, 2008 8:31 PM EDT
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of course. but if you sign them before FA, and give them big total contracts
you can usually negotiate incentives rather than gaurantees, with roster bonuses that they collect if they don’t get cut.
And if you can’t get ‘em to take a reasonable deal, let ‘em go. :)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on
Jul 9, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
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Outstanding article, Matty
Fair dinkum
"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."
Coach Paul Bear Bryant
by AussieKen on Jul 9, 2008 1:43 PM EDT 0 recs
Well how i see it its all up to next year
Well how i see things is he just be more into proven himself for next year,If he plays like hes suppose to the we sign him on a big contract to fill zach thomas spot…....But i dont want to hear the complanning.So for next year we can draft a linebacker to take jason taylor spots,So well have crowder and akin in the inside and joey and well see if phillip merling can play the spot or if not well just have to get a big name rookie to play that postion next year….But lets see what ends up happening after all for this guy,I hope he plays the year out and doesnt start cryen so that he can get cut like booker did…......
by lionel on Jul 9, 2008 4:37 PM EDT 0 recs
Not to worry
Am hoping for OSU’s Laurenatis or USC’s Maulaga next April anyway.
We're talkin' about PRACTICE....practice!
by hotrod43 on Jul 9, 2008 5:47 PM EDT 0 recs
Its his time to shine now
He’s got to step up his game.
by Patssuck456 on Jul 10, 2008 11:04 AM EDT 0 recs












