Tuesday Morning Nuggets
by Matty I
on Jul 8, 2008 12:15 AM EDT
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I'm a little short on time, so here's just some food for thought for today. Let all of us hear your thoughts below.
JOHN BECK INTERVIEW
A local Utah affiliate recently got the chance to sit down with John Beck for a little interview. And while there isn't too much new information that John shares in this interview, some things certainly deserve to be pointed out.
First of all, John shares with us that the original plan that he was told after being drafted was that he would sit out the entire first year and just learn the offense. But then after 10 games or so, they told John to go in and play. Might he be hinting that he was ill-prepared? I think so. But he did say that getting some experience would help him as he moves forward, which we all would probably agree on.
John also confirms that none of the quarterbacks have been told who has a leg up or when a decision will be made. He did say that he's heard that the coaching staff would like to have a decision around the time of the 3rd preseason game.
One of the interesting things he tells us is how all of his throws this offseason were watched by both Tony Sparano and Bill Parcells. They were also taped for future viewing. He points out that he realizes that this new regime has no allegiance to him, even noting how some draft picks from 2007 are already on different teams. Clearly, John knows he has to impress if he wants to not only start to open this season but to also remain the starter for all of 2008 and beyond.
Be sure to check out the full interview right here. But really, John doesn't say anything that the coaching staff wouldn't want him to say. In other words, he basically spews the company lines and uses the typical cliches. But what would you expect? We know that this regime doesn't like guys who divulge too much inside info and John is trying to impress this regime. So he's going to say all the right things and, hopefully, let his actions speak for themselves.
BILLS' DONTE WHITNER MUST BE CRAZY
Donte Whitner, the Bill's young starting safety, has proven that he has to be nuts. He must be. Why else would he say this:
"Do I expect us to make the playoffs? I'm guaranteeing it."
Sure, in this day and age, guarantees mean nothing. But man, this is ridiculous. The safety of a 7-9 team, a team that hasn't made the playoffs at all in the 21st century, really has the nerve o guarantee the playoffs? The same team that only beat a Cleo Lemon-led Dolphins team (also without Ronnie Brown) by 3 points? And a 2nd year QB who only completed 56% of his passes and threw more interceptions than touchdowns is supposed to be the guy who leads this team to the playoffs?
Listen, sometimes athletes just need to shut the hell up. This is one of those times. I personally guarantee that there is no way the Bills will make the playoffs in 2008. Not a chance. Period.
There are 5 teams that are clearly far superior to the Bills. Those 5 teams are the Patriots, Colts, Jaguars, Steelers, and Chargers. So that means the Bills will have to battle with teams like the Browns, Bengals, Titans, Broncos, and Texans (at the very least) to make the playoffs. And I think I can confidently say that at least 2 or 3 of those teams will be better than Buffalo this season.
QUICK HITS
- Jason Taylor actually got one vote from a coach in a survey about who they would select in a league-wide NFL draft. Think it was Tony Sparano trying to drive up JT's trade value?
- Omar Kelly takes a stab at the defensive depth chart. Check it out here. I'll have my own in the not-so-distant future.
That's all for now. Your thoughts, as usual, below...
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haha whitner
There is no way the bills make the playoffs. Along with what Matty said there are just too many teams that are better than them. Trent Edwards is garbage, Lee Evans is nothing more than a deep threat and Edwards doesnt throw a good deep ball. That is why Evans struggled so much last season. Lynch is good and will be involved much more this season but he has a possible suspension looming over his head. There O-line is still nothing special. They do have an up and coming Defense which could really suprise people this year but I do not see them as elite… yet.
I was looking at Omar Kelly’s projected depth chart and Im not so sure that Matt Roth is
a “sure shot” at DE for this team. I did hear something about Roth either losing weight or gaining weight, i cant remember, so that he would better fit somewhere in the 3-4. I could see Roth make the transition from DE to OLB just like Greg Ellis did in Dallas. Im really pulling for Quentin Moses because I think he would fit really well as an OLB for us. I am also pulling for Will Billingsley at CB. Although I hope that Jason Allen is ready to start at saftey and can play well, I think it would be a smart move to hold onto Renaldo Hill for insurance. Hill could play nickel back as well.
by Madman29 on Jul 8, 2008 3:24 PM EDT 0 recs
Roth
I think Roth will get at least this season to prove his worth. Roth did reportedly gain some weight to help him fit in as a 3-4 DE. So let’s see what happens in camp.
by Matty I on
Jul 8, 2008 5:41 PM EDT
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Are you kidding me? Worry about a couple wins guys. Really we have broke the broom out on the fins the last two seasons.SWEEP,SWEEP.
by fins0-16in2009hahagobills on Jul 8, 2008 5:26 PM EDT 0 recs
Just like a typical Bills fan
You fit right into the stereotype. Rather than address the issue at hand (Whitner’s prediction), you choose to attack us.
I never said the Dolphins would be better than the Bills, did I?
If you have anything of any relevance to add to this discussion, then by all means, feel free to share. But since you are a Bills fan, then I probably doubt you ever have anything meaningful to say.
by Matty I on
Jul 8, 2008 5:40 PM EDT
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Buffalo bills
But the fact of the matter is - You guys are in no position to say trent is garbage. He had a Four touchdown game against The fins.last time i checked thats a great game. Beck looked garbage . Your right i should not attack you! But from now on just know that we are your big brothers in the AFC eAST.THE FAMILY HAS NOW UNITED!!! THERS ENOUGH FOOM FOR ALL YOU FINS FANS WHO WANNA JUMP SHIP! LOVE,A Big brother BILLS fan.
by fins0-16in2009hahagobills on Jul 8, 2008 5:56 PM EDT 0 recs
And if you read our blogs...
You’d see that we’d been saying our defense last year was garbage and that the secondary is still probably junk this year. So really, who cares about a good game against a weak defense.
by mikey2380 on
Jul 8, 2008 6:02 PM EDT
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HAHAHA
Thats my point! Its Your weeeeaaaak defense or should i say soft? You Would love to have a player of witners caliber with attitude. Hey this is the NFL.
by fins0-16in2009hahagobills on Jul 8, 2008 6:09 PM EDT 0 recs
Attitude?
You mean that particular ire that Canadians are known for?
Or is it more thuggish?
Like Marshawn Lynch’s flagitious off-season? How many games do you think he’s going to get suspended for his cowardly hit and run?
Seriously. The Toronto Bills will regress this year.
Man, think of that people. Having your team get stolen by Canada. You know the septic tank isn’t buried lower than that.
www.thephinisher.com
by The Phinisher on
Jul 8, 2008 7:17 PM EDT
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Keep talking trash about Cam's team...
Cause this year’s team is bigger, meaner, and tougher. They’ll be more prepared this year. As for Buffalo, didn’t they get five picks off Tony Romo last year and still lose the game? Dick Jauron doesn’t know how to fix teams. Look at his job trying to clean up Wannstedt’s mess in Chicago. Parcells knows how to clean up organizations.
by mikey2380 on
Jul 9, 2008 3:20 AM EDT
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Just for fun, here's a trivia question for you.
What NFL team holds the record for most consecutive Super Bowl Losses?
I know it’s a tough one, so I’ll give you some time to think about it.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on
Jul 9, 2008 6:13 PM EDT
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Bills fans make me embarrassed to be in upstate NY
Seriously….it’s sad to see so much ignorance. I can only imagine that it is chicken wing stained and beer soaked enthusiasm I am reading from my fellow upstater.
Let’s get this straight – last year, Miami was not a good team. They were bad. Several changes in the offseason now have us facing in the right direction, and we look forward to a positive season and eventual, certain success for years to come.
Last year, the Bills were not a good team. They were not as bad as Miami, but they were bad. Signing offseason stopgaps and fanning a QB controversy will not change that.
Your team’s head coaching pedigree is Chicago. A proven failure. Ours is a rookie upsider with one of the all-time greats as a tutor. Dallas, New England (Belichick did not inherit a loser), and the Giants – who, lets face it, beat your beloved Bills when it mattered most. Wide right, wasn’t it?
I’d rather be rooting for the bad team with the upside than the bad team with delusions. Why are you reading our fan page anyway? Jealous? We’ll let you know when we run over an old lady and keep driving.
You Bills fans need to shut up. You keep bringing knives to gunfights.
You’re dismissed.
by mikem1224 on Jul 8, 2008 7:40 PM EDT 0 recs
I fell that its good what hes sayen but its not happening
Cuz the afc is a tuff decision and even if they win 9 to 10 games this season you can guarntee that there gonna be behind the patriots cuz there in the same division…So its pretty much impossible for them to make it to the playoffs…You can say that they got about a 2-10 chance to make it…I believe there even gonna be worse then us cuz i say we have a 3-10 chance to make it….....................
by lionel on Jul 8, 2008 8:44 PM EDT 0 recs
bills fans
officially more annoying than jets fans
http://miamiheattimes.blogspot.com/ A blog dedicated to the 2006 NBA Champs, The Miami Heat
by Little Nicky 21 on Jul 8, 2008 10:27 PM EDT 0 recs
I disagree.
On my scale of annoying fans, Jets and Raiders fans tie for 1st, Bills fans come 3rd. :)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on
Jul 9, 2008 5:31 PM EDT
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An official statement from Buffalo Rumblings:
Please be aware that Bills fans who have made their opinions known on the Whitner issue at The Phinsider in no way represent the general consensus of Bills fans, especially those of us who blog here at SB Nation. What you’ve read from the “Bills fan” here appears to be nothing more than the childish behavior of a 13-year-old spammer; we’d appreciate your realization that there are much smarter Bills fans out there. Ones who realize that Whitner probably should have kept his mouth shut.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 9, 2008 4:21 AM EDT 0 recs
Fair enough
But, just for the record Brian, sometimes it’s amusing. :)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on
Jul 9, 2008 5:29 PM EDT
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And just for the record, regarding Whitner...
I read the article. He never said which year he was guaranteeing a playoff appearance.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Jul 9, 2008 5:33 PM EDT 0 recs
Guys calm down no wins against us in TWO YEARS! iD BE MAD ALSO. Talk college this year it would be less painful.
by fins0-16in2009hahagobills on Jul 9, 2008 6:17 PM EDT 0 recs
ONE WORD ------WOW
Cuz the afc is a tuff decision and even if they win 9 to 10 games this season you can guarntee that there gonna be behind the patriots cuz there in the same division…So its pretty much impossible for them to make it to the playoffs…You can say that they got about a 2-10 chance to make it…I BILLEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there even gonna be worse then us cuz i say we have a 3-10 chance to make it…….WOW WOW WOOOOOOW…..............
by fins0-16in2009hahagobills on Jul 9, 2008 6:20 PM EDT 0 recs
miami Catfish
Try hanging out in the sun. Maybe even talk about the year of 72 with some beers.Other than that theres nothing else to talk about.Well maybee about the bills—-BLAH BLAH BLAH.REALLY YOUR NOT EVEN HALF THE TEAM WE ARE…..Please come to grips with that.
by fins0-16in2009hahagobills on Jul 9, 2008 6:24 PM EDT 0 recs
are you still thinking about the answer to my trivia question?
need a hint? Okay, here:
There is only ONE team with this distinction. No one else has been able to lose 4 straight. Technically, that make this team the biggest losers… historically speaking.
Let me know when you give up.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on
Jul 9, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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While you are thinking, here's another! :)
What NFL team has the HIGHEST all time winning percentage in the regular season?
This one might be tough for you, but give it a think.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Jul 9, 2008 7:19 PM EDT 0 recs
More trivia
Which AFC East team has never won the Super Bowl?
by mikey2380 on Jul 9, 2008 8:35 PM EDT 0 recs
Okay, you are obviously stumped..
My intent was not to cause you to appear slow or uninformed, mr. hahagobills. My apologies if you feel that I was poking fun at your ignorance.
Without rubbing it in further, the answers are:
Bills – Most Consecutive Super Bowl losses, ever (4)
Dolphins – Best Winning Percentage in the Regular Season (.580)
- Second Best Winning Percentage including Postseason (.576)
(Dallas is first with .577)
The Bills rank #23 in the regular season AND including postseason. Ouch.
With you being a fan of the only team in the AFC East without an NFL title, and with a winning percentage better only than the Jets, I can understand your need to grasp onto whatever glimmer of hope or justification you can come up with to convince yourself that you are not wasting your time supporting the Bills.
Chin up, and feel free to poke fun at Dolphins fans for last season… hell, for the last few years even! Just be patient with us if we seem a little sensitive about the topic. We don’t have the years of experience that Bills fans have with losing. And given the state of the turn around, I would guess we won’t get much more opportunity to experience it.
:)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Jul 9, 2008 8:37 PM EDT 0 recs
January 6 Buffalo narrowly missed playoff advancement in AFC Divisional loss at Cleveland, 34-30.
December 23 Bills claimed their third consecutive AFC Eastern Division title by handing Miami a 24-14 defeat in front of a Rich Stadium record crowd of 80,235.
1991
January 12 Bills defeat Miami, 44-34, in the AFC Divisional Playoff game as the 2 teams combined for a regulation time NFL playoff record for points scored.
January 20 Bills won their first-ever AFC Championship by dominating the LA Raiders, 51-3.
January 27 Bills lost to the NY Giants, 20-19, in Super Bowl XXV as a Scott Norwood FG sailed wide right with 8 seconds remaining in "A Game for the Ages."
September 1 Bills set 10 new team offensive records with opening day win over Dolphins and RB Thurman Thomas becomes the first Bills back to record 100 yards rushing and receiving in a single game on his way to becoming the NFL’s MVP.
December 1 Buffalo captures its 4th consecutive AFC East crown with a 24-13 victory over the Jets.
December 22 Bills fans establish a new single season in-stadium NFL record of 635,889, breaking their own mark they set in 1988.
1992
January 12 Buffalo holds back Denver, 10-7, to capture its 2nd consecutive AFC title.
January 26 Bills’ quest for a world championship is dashed as the Redskins win, 37-24, in Super Bowl XXVI.
September 6 WR James Lofton breaks Steve Largent’s NFL receiving yards record of 13,089 vs. the Rams.
September 13 Bills defeat the 49ers, 34-31, in the 1st NFL game without a punt.
October 4 Largest home crowd (80,368) sees the Bills fall to Miami, 10-37.
1993
January 3 QB Frank Reich leads the Bills back from a 32-point deficit in the NFL’s greatest comeback, a 41-38 OT win over Houston in the Wild Card game.
January 17 Buffalo’s defense smothers Miami in the AFC title game, 29-10.
January 31 Bills become only the 2nd team in NFL history to appear in 3 consecutive Super Bowls, but lose to Dallas, 52-17, in the Rose Bowl.
February 4 Bill Polian’s 7-year tenure as GM ends with his release.
February 5 Bills Director of Player Personnel John Butler is named Executive V.P./GM.
December 26 Bills claim 5th AFC East crown in past 6 years.
1994
January 23 Bills win 4th consecutive AFC title with 30-13 victory over Joe Montana and the Chiefs to become 1st team to play in 4th consecutive Super Bowl.
January 30 Buffalo bows to Dallas again, 13-30, in Super Bowl XXVIII.
February 1 Construction begins at the stadium to add 14 luxury suites, glassed-in club seating and the largest SONY JumboTron scoreboard in the United States.
1995
March 13 Construction begins on the Ralph C. Wilson, Jr. Field House.
October 8 The completed Field House opens with the unveiling of the Buffalo Bills Experience, the first fan interactive area displayed by any single team in the NFL.
December 17 Bills defeat Miami, 23-20, to win their sixth AFC East title in the past eight seasons.
December 30 Bills defeat Dolphins, 37-22, at home in Divisional playoff game in repeat of scenario from the 1990 season.
1996
December 22 Bills defeat Kansas City, 20-9, to advance to the postseason for the eighth time in the past nine seasons.
December 30 Center Kent Hull retires after 11 seasons in Buffalo.
1997
January 31 Quarterback Jim Kelly announces his retirement after 11 seasons with the Bills.
July 31 Bills, the state of New York and Erie County agree on a new stadium lease proposal to keep the Bills in Buffalo for an additional six years, provided that $11 million in generated revenue from the sale of 76 new suites and 6,878 new club seats is sold by December 1998.
December 31 Marv Levy, winningest head coach in Bills history, announces his retirement.
1998
January 5 Defensive Coordinator Wade Phillips is named the 11th head coach in Bills history.
January 20 Bills sign QB Doug Flutie, former Heisman Trophy winner and CFL Most Outstanding Player six seasons.
February 13 Bills acquire QB Rob Johnson from Jacksonville for the 1st and 4th round selections in the 1998 Draft.
December 1 Team announces that it has met its $11 million sales goal for suite and seat sales.
December 18 Bills and state officially sign the stadium lease agreement that will keep the Bills in Western New York for 15 the next years and also announce the venue in Orchard Park has been re-named Ralph Wilson Stadium.
1999
January 2 Buffalo loses a heartbreaker at Miami in an AFC Wild Card tilt as Doug Flutie is sacked deep in Dolphins territory in the game’s final minute, preserving the 24-17 Miami win.
September 19 Bills play first regular season game at renovated Ralph Wilson Stadium and mark the event by defeating the Jets, 17-3.
November 28 Bills defeat New England to record their 100th win in the 1990s, making them just the 6th NFL franchise ever to do so. The win was part of a successful regular season that saw Buffalo go 11-5 and finish second in the AFC East.
Buffalo finished the decade with an AFC best record of 103-57.
The Bills defense sets several team records and finishes as the #1 unit in the NFL despite not having any Pro Bowlers.
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by fins0-16in2009hahagobills on Jul 10, 2008 11:55 AM EDT 0 recs
LOOK HOW MANY TIMES WE KILL MIAMI IN BIG GAMES:)
ALWAYS SECOND BEST TO US….THANK YOU VERY MUCH
by fins0-16in2009hahagobills on Jul 10, 2008 11:57 AM EDT 0 recs
THERE ARE THE FACTS====== MIAMI SUCKS\
by fins0-16in2009hahagobills on Jul 10, 2008 12:03 PM EDT 0 recs
Do you understand the concept of a "fact"?
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on
Jul 10, 2008 12:24 PM EDT
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SECOND BEST. WE OWN MIAMI
NO COMMENT?
by fins0-16in2009hahagobills on Jul 10, 2008 12:07 PM EDT 0 recs
you are just livin' in your own little reality, arencha?
“January 2 Buffalo loses a heartbreaker at Miami in an AFC Wild Card tilt as Doug Flutie is sacked deep in Dolphins territory in the game’s final minute, preserving the 24-17 Miami win. ”
“October 4 Largest home crowd (80,368) sees the Bills fall to Miami, 10-37.” (ouch! does that really say 37-10?)
Most people would not try to argue a fact like who has the best winning percentage, simply because the are too well documented. But when you have nothing else going for you…. I guess you might as well try it. Kudos to you for cut and pasting ten years worth of ten year old Bills history. BTW, if you can read, it omits the Miami wins in most seasons. But no matter… never let the facts get in the way of your delusion. I admire the way you cling to this perception that you have finally found a team worse than the Bills, and if it helps you sleep, go ahead and believe it. Whatever gets you through the night.
Cheers!
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on
Jul 10, 2008 12:23 PM EDT
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Yet
No Super Bowl. Like the Pats this year, big regular seasons and postseasons mean nothing without a title. But the Patriots have three titles, the Dolphins have two, and the Jets even have one. Buffalo has none.=( I guess they are last in the division historically.
by mikey2380 on Jul 10, 2008 1:23 PM EDT 0 recs
this is your come back! hahah you guys are a joke… btw i have season tickets to bills games…..a true fan id be willing to bet you have never went to a game…just on tv..until you do …your not a fan..even of a bummy team like miami…
by fins0-16in2009hahagobills on
Jul 10, 2008 2:47 PM EDT
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The Toronto Bills Suck
The Miami Dolphins
League Championships: 2
Super Bowl Championships: 2
Conference Championships: 5
Division Championships: 12
The Toronto Bills (and their historical Buffalo franchise)
League Championships: 2
AFL Championships: 2
Conference Championships: 4
Division Championships: 10
The AFL thing is so cute and old timey. Super Bowls? Did you guys ever win one? Ever? Ever ever? Really? That sucks.
I think if they don’t win a Super Bowl in the next eight years they should be demoted to the CFL. I mean, seriously, you guys are really dragging down the AFC East.
www.thephinisher.com
by The Phinisher on
Jul 10, 2008 5:29 PM EDT
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season tickets huh?
that’s cool. are they for this year?
BTW, you really didn’t respond to anything I said. Is that because you have realized that the facts don’t back up your emotional rant?
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on
Jul 10, 2008 6:06 PM EDT
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Haha
You can’t think of anything great at all. You say the Bills are the best, yet they have never finished an NFL season as the best. All you have is your tickets to the games, which is completely irrelevant.
By the way, did your mommy and daddy buy you those tickets?
by mikey2380 on Jul 10, 2008 3:48 PM EDT 0 recs
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