TE's

by OntheGo on Jul 13, 2008 12:09 PM EDT Comment 10 comments

This blurb from PFW regarding Dolphin's plans for using double TE formations with apparent regularity adds to the already bold question mark I had with the TE postion.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/AFC/AFC+East/Miami/WWHI/2008/wwhi071208.htm

I'd guess the FO will be keenly watching the TE waiver wire doubly hard as teams get to 80 players on the way to training camp. If the TE position a 'block first-catch second' mentality, as this article suggests, is considered core to the success of the base O-line, then that also adds some more pressure on the #1 and #2 receivers and RBs to represent any aerial attack.

In my opinion, it is hard to see a balanced offensive attack with a 2 TE base...and also implies the FB position is nearly non-existent excpept for short yardage situations.

Whew...75 words...back to the main point of the post...we need 2 TE's.

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i wouldnt worry about this too much

chances are that it is just one of the attacks we will venture. 2 TE base logically doesnt make sense.

We have 1 capable starter (either anthony fasono or David Martin -> both will not fit in whichever scheme)

I think this article is just these people trying to find similarities between our new te’s and that similarity is that they are big guys with decent blocking skills…

the 2 TE set and stuff, i havent heard anything about that and dan henning isnt really known for that type of base

And chances are that in some formations they will do like a splitback dual rB with ricky and ronnie, because both have good hands

Our “base” will probly be

LT-> Long
LG -> Smiley or Murphy
C -> Samoan
RG-> Smiley or Murphy
RT -> Carey
TE -> Fasano—> more versatile

QB -> gonna say Beck (I have given my views about 1000 times already about this)
RB -> Ronnie or Ricky
FB -> Grigsby or Maui (for somereason i like Grigsby better)

WR -> Ginnantor
WR -> Wilford

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by finsxfactor on Jul 13, 2008 12:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

We have several good blocking TEs, including Peele

Martin seems to me to be the odd man out, since his blocking is sub-par, and he is intermittant with his catching.

But there is a lot of advantage to a two TE set, especially at the beginning of the season. It would help Long out to have help next to him, and it gives the QB a couple of quick outlets. Knowing how Sparano seems to require a minimum level of competency at each position, I would expect all of the TEs to be proficient at catching short passes, even if they aren’t going to go charging up the seam very often.

For the record, I don’t really care for Peele much. I would like to see Ryan developed.

Also, I agree about Grigsby vs. Mauia. I think the “Juggernaut” is a “Knucklehead”.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Jul 14, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didnt read the article

But my opinion on this is we will use alot of 2 TE sets. Parcells and Sparano used alot of it in dallas and Henning used it in NY when parcells was with the Jets. I like the two TE sets because it makes the defense stay in there base formation. Which allows your best TE to go one on one with a LBer. If the defense goes to the nickle def. Then you run the ball down there throats. Sparano will carry at least 4 TE on the roster IF he can find 4 that are good enough. 3 will dress each week. If the talent isnt there then I can see them using the FB more and carrying a TE on the practice squad for development. IMHO i feel this offensive will be able to move the ball. It won’t be a quick strike offensive it will be a 8-12 play drive type offensive. Using alot of clock getting alot of first downs and hopefully scoring TD instead of FG. Thats were the QB comes into play. Whoever starts will have to be careful in the red zone. Play calling will be vital and I think with henning and sparano were in good hands. When Sparano was calling the plays for the cowboys Parcells last year, he called a very balanced game. He threw alot on first down in the 2 TE set and ran the ball alot in the red zone. TWO weeks and counting bring on training camp.

by jvw on Jul 13, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And the running game

If Ronnie is healthy i can see him and ricky getting 18-22 touches each including catches.

by jvw on Jul 13, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

think gameplan for 2005...but add a speedy threat as a reciever

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by finsxfactor on Jul 14, 2008 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Interesting spin...

seems like we agree…the line needs 2 TE’s sometimes. I’m not against it but a strategy that includes it also implies worries about the O-line without 2 TE’s.

by OntheGo on Jul 14, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

thats not the thing though

im sure our o-line is going to be fine…but the point i think this article is making is that we are going to be a run first team….they are just saying it in a very roundabout who gives a shit way

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by finsxfactor on Jul 14, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no, I think onthego has it right.

there is some concern/caution regarding the O-line. We not only have a completely new group, we have at least 1 rookie to be starting, 1 second yr guy, and one position not yet filled.

Two TEs, at least in the beginning of the season, would certainly help the line as they begin the process of learning how to work together, and help Jake (A LOT) get acclimated at LT. And it would help out a rookie QB by giving him 4 potential receivers + a pass catching back on the field at any given time (yes, I know FBs can be pass catchers as well, but they tend to catch screens and dump offs, rather than someone running a route over the middle or a quick 3 yd out). Anyway, it also gives us two strong sides to run over, which should help out the running game.

I like the idea of starting out the season this way.

BTW, I don’t think we will NEED two TEs. I am confident that if we have Carey and Smiley on the right side, they certainly will not need help. But it will be good for a rookie QB to have more protection initially.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Jul 14, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs