I like Beck also, and I hope he does not end up having happy feet when he plays.

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the born leader, wasn’t even team captain as the Senior QB at Michigan… Just sayin..

Beck has the same intangibles that Henne does, toughness, hard-working, and as young QB’s they both show the ability to become that unquestioned leader on a winning team.

Ainge doesn’t even belong in the discussion.

McCown is a better choice to hold a clipboard and wear a headset, and play if Beck gets hurt, just to keep Henne from being thrown to the wolves before he’s ready.

We basically have 2 smart, strong-armed, accurate, experienced college QB’s on our roster, but because Beck looked terrible trying to learn on the fly behind one of the worst OL’s in NFL history, Henne must automatically be so much better. Let’s give each guy a chance to actually play on a halfway decent team behind a competent OL before we label them as savior’s and busts.

Beck = Fiedler?
Beck has no arm strength?
Beck doesn’t have toughness?
Beck doesn’t have the tools to lead a team to the playoffs?

First off, I just want to say that, for all his flaws, Fiedler was one tough son of a bitch. Diving head first under the Raider Dline for a TD? Playing injured? The guy never quit. Say what you want about his skills, but he earned my respect in the guts category.
So now, if you are saying Beck = Fielder, then it makes no sense to say Beck doesn’t have toughness. Besides the fact that the guy basically played on two bum ankles in college and still won.

I hate being put in the position to play devil’s advocate here, since Matty already represents Beck pretty well on this board, but you are just so wrong on things you state as facts that I gotta know where you are coming from…. like arm strength…. you have to go back to some scouting reports two years ago to find knocks on his arm strength. I am pretty sure that most NFL people have put that issue to bed. Beck has show that he can fire the ball, with accuracy, and make all required NFL throws. And in interviews last year his receivers have made note of how hard he can throw… Let me just say this, his arm strength certainly appears to be at least as good as Tom Brady’s, and that is probably good enough, dontch think? And if he has the intangibles of physical and mental toughness, and he has a quick release, adequate arm strength, and accuracy, I think it is going to be hard to back up a statement like “he can’t take a team to the playoffs”.

If you want to criticize Beck, pick some things that are still real question marks as of today. We don’t know how quickly he can adapt to the speed of the game, since he never got into that groove before the end of last season. We also don’t know if he can make the correct decisions under pressure. His college career indicates that he can, but the NFL is different… until he does it in a game, it is still a question mark. And how about his actual leadership in the huddle? He might have confidence and a positive attitude, but does he have the drive and fire that great QBs have? Can he fire the guys up in the huddle when they are down by 14 in the 4th? Of all of my concerns about Beck, this is one of the biggest. He just seems like too nice a guy to grab a receiver by the facemask in the huddle and tell him to catch the ball or get the hell off the field. THIS is the intangible that I believe is the one most likely to be his fatal flaw.
But maybe if he earns the right to start, and has some success behind a solid line, maybe he we develop a little swagger.

IMO

Beck has not had any kind of reasonable opportunity to show what he can do. Last year was a fiasco, and not because of Beck. Cameron ended up doing the worst thing possible for a young QB. He didn’t intend to play him, so he didn’t get him adequately prepared, and then dumped him into the worst situation you could think of, with no line and no running game.
I am not saying that Beck will be a good QB. I am sayin that, in all fairness, I don’t know. And there is no way you can know either. The only way to find out is to play him.
AND, the best thing for Henne is probably to sit for a year and learn. I can name more successful QBs that rode the bench for a year or two before playing, than guys that came right in as a rookie and started.
I am not a “beck fan”. I would be very happy to have both Beck and Henne develop into solid QBs and then be able to trade one. And i am just as frustrated as you regarding our QB situation since Danny left. But at this point, if he earns the job in camp, you gotta play Beck.
BTW, I don’t agree about Pennington. Now THAT guy has a weak arm.

He has bulked up a bit in the conditioning program and has done A LOT of pass throwing in the offseason.

like I said, “pre-draft”. Most of the people have since changed their tunes after Beck got a chance to workout.

Thanks for the article but it only points out that there were perceptions that Beck lacked arm strength and he addressed this by saying he had been taking some heat off of his throws for his receivers and he did not feel he had to fire it in every time. It does not prove your point that his arm strength has improved.

Here is what you said, “Yes, reports have said that Beck’s arm strength has improved dearly.” Look, either you have a strong arm or you don’t. You can adjust and improve but not that drastically at this point. Let me rephrase what LeftCoastFinFan said, Beck threw the ball faster at the combine than the strong armed Cutler.