1) A smart player. Doesn’t make stupid decisions or force balls into coverage. Can make all the throws (bullets, touch, short, medium, deep), and will deliver the ball with zip and accuracy. Big enough arm to hit the big play down the field.

2. Drew Brees

3. Beck or Henne.

4. I think they are similar players, both are extremely smart, have strong arms, and are accurate passers. They both seem to be very hard workers also. At this point, there’s no preference between the two, just that Beck gets his chance to prove he can be a starter, and Henne gets a chance to learn and adjust before being thrown to the wolves.

1) He has to be accurate and able to make every throw than an NFL QB needs to make. A quick release is important, too. He also must play smart football and know when the right/wrong times are to take chances. He also has to be tough – both mentally and physically. Also should be a hard worker – on the practice field, in the weight room, and in the film room.

2) Peyton Manning (though we don’t know how physically though he is because he doesn’t get hit often)

3) John Beck

4) He has every quality you look for in a QB. The thing is, he may not have shown it yet in the NFL. But if you know anything about his college years, you’d know that he possesses every quality I described above. He’s insanely accurate. He has a big-time arm (threw a harder pass at Combine than Jay Cutler did – but nobody seems to ever mention this). Beck also was told to lighten up his throws at BYU because they were too fast. He’s got a great release in terms of how quick he gets rid of the ball once he spots a receiver. He played a great game at BYU on two bad ankles that were heavily taped. Nobody outworked him this past offseason – either throwing on the field or in the weight room. And if you saw him at BYU, you’d know he’s also mentally tough. I could go on, but I’ll stop for now.

we need a quarterback who fits the mold of an accurate quarterback. We dont need a big time arm (jamarcus) who just slings it without accuracy. I also believe if given the chance with the new regime John Beck will excell. He is a “gym rat” he has worked harder than every single player. He has the mindset and the charm that you want in a QB.
But comparing him to a Peyton Manning…that is going a little far. Qb’s like that come into the league sparingly. Although I hope he is of that calibar, it is just too much. It really is. He has all the physical tools to become the next great qb it is just adaptation and the intangibles that need to fall in place. If they do, hell he wont be a Peyton but he’ll be the dolphins version of a franchise qb.

psst -> you other guys that are just browsing and reading are cowards…post and reply …this is the most passionate i have gotten about a single thread…

you can talk about accuracy and arm strength all day long, but what really counts is knowing when to throw what and to who. (go figure that one out…. :)

Brady reminds me of Joe Montana. He didn’t have the biggest arm, but he always knew where to throw the ball, and he made it look easy. Brady has that quality. when he makes the deep throw to Randy Moss, it is after he has set up the D with short slants and quick outs, gotten the running game going, and has gotten the D to cheat up… then BAM! he hits Randy on the fly off play action.
This is unlike the Culpepper-Moss connections in Minn. C-Pep had a big arm and would launch it, and make Randy go get it and out run and out jump the defenders.

So my #1 would be:
A QB who
- can effectively manage the game (no stupid TOs or Delay penalties, and knows when to audible)
- keeps Ds off balance
- is quick and accurate on al the short/intermediate stuff

2 – Tom Brady 3 – John Beck – Not because I want to ride the bandwagon, but because from what I have seen of the kid, he is smart enough and and accurate enough. 4 – If Beck can learn to manage the game and is able to get into the rhythm of the game (both come from game time experience), his college performances show that he has the arm, and accuracy, and he is tough and can play through pain.

18 +1 = 19 posts!! keep it UP !!!

is it?

1. with a strong, accurate, and quick fire arm. One who is a winner and smart but not scared to take a chances on being great. A leader who commands the respect of his teammates. a pressence on the feild who is a true student of the game

2.Big Ben

3.John Beck

4. His work ethic shows how he wants to be the leader earnning respect by playing all off season, getting to know the system without being discouraged, he already has the physical tools, if he stays courageous and takes chances hopefully our recievers will reward him. Big Ben did alot very young 22 superbowl winner i think? Take some chances and you could be great..but if your to cautious stay on the bench

thats an intresting point joe…when have we had a scrambling qb in miami?...i cant remember..then again i am young…I ask you guys…have we had scrambling qb’s in miami (minus cul-”no knee” black-pepper) <—racist?

1. a) very smart, b) quick release & c) very nice deep ball.
2. Bulger/Warner of old
3. beck has a&b not sure they about c, no deep over the top connections w ginn yet.
henne has c but not a&b
mccown has none

4. beck displayed a&b in college and just needs to translate. c i hope came w/o offseason bulk & practice

to my “UDFA” thread record of 61 comments for a fanpost… unless somebody topped that before I started reading here… Matty we need a ruling..

1) The number one thing: Leadership. I want a quarterback that is cocky and can walk up to the line of scrimmage and ignore the defense’s taunts. I want a quarterback that can just look at a receiver who has dropped the ball and make them feel guilty.

We need a quarterback that is comfortable in the pocket and taking the hit while throwing. Obviously he should be able to make “all the throws” but instead of laser-like accuracy I’d prefer a decision maker who has the mindset to be aware of his throw’s implications. Laser-like accuracy would be nice too, but takes a back seat to awareness.

2) Ben Roethlisberger

3) Chad Henne

4) He has a lot of experience as a signal caller and the statistics that align with such experience are pretty convincing. He seems self-assured and tough. He has a strong arm and stands tall in the pocket. He’s not scared of contact.

I don’t dislike Beck but he reminds me (sorry Matty I) of Joey Harrington. Joey has a quick mind and can pick targets quickly, but his field awareness is the pits. Beck, even in very limited action, has shown better field awareness. His quick release and high-velocity ball also reminds me of what Harrington does well. Don’t get me wrong: I think Beck could be good. I just see that his potential downfall being that quick mind and timid presence in the pocket. Too many forced throws, accurate or otherwise.

In the end I think Beck is too high strung and nervous.

Actually, in the end I hope he turns out to be the second coming. Or third. However the Mormons work it. I just want the Phins to get a tough-guy who can win games and has the arm to win the big ones. That is all.

the record is set!! and might never be broken!!!!!!!! this is the proudest day of my thephinsider.com life!!

yes!!!!!!

(btw…keep the posts going)

isnt it about players fitting into the right system a big part of production…

lets say fins got brees instead of culpepper
-> do you think brees would have been the answer? hes an excellent qb sure, but would he fit into the system?
-—-—-> dont just say hes a good qb so he’ll fit, look at jeff garcia—-> he went through what 4 teams? (san fran, detroit, cleaveland, and tampa) went to different systems and produced.

Am i making any sense here?...just humor me with a response…its 2 in the mornin and i have shattered the record books matty…shattered

Someone who is smart, mentally tough, he has to be a good leader, He has to be accurate and he has to have a strong arm.

It seems as a community we are looking for:

1. Leadership—> someone who can command the game and make the recievers not want to dissapoint and drop the ball

“The number one thing: Leadership. I want a quarterback that is cocky and can walk up to the line of scrimmage and ignore the defense’s taunts. I want a quarterback that can just look at a receiver who has dropped the ball and make them feel guilty.” – thephinisher

“A cerebral leader capable of carrying a drive by himself when the offense isn’t clicking. The QB should be able to create with his arm, with his head, and with his legs.” – Joerobbedmestadium

2. Physicality—>can take a hit. has the arm strength and accuracy to make all the throws that he wants to (meaning if the ginn-a-nattor is wide open running a 50 yard cross, he has the ability to deliver the strike accurately). In short. has the ability to be a qb.

“Can make all the throws (bullets, touch, short, medium, deep), and will deliver the ball with zip and accuracy. Big enough arm to hit the big play down the field.” – main man, Big “Aaron” Nicky 21

“He has to be accurate and able to make every throw than an NFL QB needs to make. A quick release is important, too. He also must play smart football and know when the right/wrong times are to take chances. He also has to be tough – both mentally and physically. Also should be a hard worker – on the practice field, in the weight room, and in the film room.” – fellow NJ man, Matty I

“with a strong, accurate, and quick fire arm. ” – FinfanT

3. Smart Instincts and Awareness—>Someone who will be able to recognize blitzes, not panic in the pocket, stay poise and not panic

“Great awareness and pocket presence”- mikey2380

“We need a quarterback that is comfortable in the pocket and taking the hit while throwing. Obviously he should be able to make "all the throws" but instead of laser-like accuracy I’d prefer a decision maker who has the mindset to be aware of his throw’s implications. Laser-like accuracy would be nice too, but takes a back seat to awareness.” – thephinisher

4. Tallying up the scores so far it seems like :

Beck to be the qb -> 10
Henne to be the qb ->3
McCown to be the qb—> 1

So far beck is the man

“2. Physicality—>can take a hit. has the arm strength and accuracy to make all the throws that he wants to (meaning if the ginn-a-nattor is wide open running a 50 yard cross, he has the ability to deliver the strike accurately). In short. has the ability to be a qb.

"Can make all the throws (bullets, touch, short, medium, deep), and will deliver the ball with zip and accuracy. Big enough arm to hit the big play down the field." – main man, Big "Aaron" Nicky 21”

Just call me Hank lol

Matty, take note.

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^^Does it look like an asterisk??? Well, it’s supposed to.

If it hits 100, it gets an asterisk, he’s padding stats lol
This is like NE goin for 4th down to score a TD in a 4th QTR blowout.

1. Has to be tough as nails, someone the players would follow into hell, and has to have the intangibles of a pro bowler.

2. Brett Favre.

3. Hate to say it, but Chad Henne. (I really like John Beck)

4. Chad Henne admitted to taking pain killing shots for a dislocated shoulder his senior year. He was injured for a fair amount of his college career and played through it. Hes got a cannon for an arm and whipped my Florida Gators this year, and im STILL not over it. Its hard to teach tough and i think he has it.

Chad Henne sounds like a demon during his cadence…... i would crap my pants.

Considering the canes starting QB could have played for Miami NW last year, im not sure the canes really have much of a shot.

keep it going!
To me John Beck has all the traits you want in a starting QB. 1. He’s tough; played with a seperated shoulder and two high ankle sprains his whole senior year. 2. He’s accurate; he had a 70% comp record his senior year while not practing at all during the week. see # 1. 3. A stand up guy and gym/football rat who will do whatever it takes to win. And most of all 4. John has it between the ears!

I don’t want to compare John to anyone else I just want him to be the best he can be. John just may surprise some and be better than anyone you’ve named so far don’t sell this guy short. Don’t forget alot of great QBs have come from small schools.

Nobody likes Dan Marino?
Assholes!