I just don’t want to even consider what happened last year because almost every aspect of how the team was put together was completely bumbled. I like Roth. I am sure that with the kind of team that’s now being assembled, he will flourish. I think this is the kind of system that he will do well in and the bear-bones offseason program being implemented will do wonders. Mark my words on Roth.

I think Allen will be a solid starter. Sometimes it takes a while for safeties to acclimate themselves to the NFL. What hurts about Allen is the fact that we went on that Saban-led winning streak and ended up with this guy and not Young, or Leinart.

What I mean by Roth-child is that he is just too small for this teams plans for the 3-4. I think he will do well wearing another uniform in a different system and many fans will be saying, “see we should have kept him!”, but as much as I like him we are building a different team with a different system and a different type of player is needed. I look for a late trade for a low pick.
Throwing the Allen wrench in our system is a guy that has the tools but doesn’t know how to use them. I was PO’d when Saban wasted a number 1 on this guy. I see him bouncing around the league for a few more years due to other people banking on trying to cash in on his “latent potential”. I just hope we cut our losses and make the move to purge this tragedy before we suffer through another year of watching an opposing WR streak down the field for 6, untouched.

you couldn’t said it better!!
Jason IS a BUST!! I don’t think you can make an excuses for his lack of mental thoughness. For Roth, is sad that he does not fit this type of defense.

The first one is the footage that the picture above is taken from. It’s hard to use this footage to gauge Jason Allen by…I mean, c’mon it is Ronnie Brown running over him!

The next one is footage of a HUGE hit that he puts on a 6’3” 260lb Tight End.

I think for the 3 guys Matty brings up…this is their make or break time. I like Crowder. I agree that Moth(that’s my personal nickname for him) is probably better suited for a different system. I think Jason Allen has the biggest upside of all three and I hope that he brings his A-game this year. I would really like to see all 3 stay…when we drafted them I could see what the Dolphins saw in them.

I think Crowder stays, Moth goes and it depends on which Allen shows up: video 1 or 2

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y35c-YvCwx0” target=”_blank”>

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJjs7svmzUQ&feature=related

Both of them have the physical tools to be great, but neither of them are ready to lead the defense.

To me, I think Jason Allen is a lot like Roy Williams. If Allen had a great veteran safety there to help him out and let Allen use all of his physical tools (i.e. when Williams had Darren Woodson), then he could do pretty well. But without that veteran guidance and tutelage, and being expected to carry the secondary the way he is, Allen really won’t even have the chance to succeed.

It all comes down to the same peeve I have with a lot of fans that’s been created by the draft hype. Very few rookies really make an immediate impact. Rookies have to develop, and they have to have the right people to develop them. Then, after 3-4 years in the league, can they start to blossom into great players. For example, look at Larry Csonka’s first two years versus the rest of his career after Shula and his RB coach (Carl Taseff, had to Google that one) taught him how to run. That’s a guy who went from a potential first round bust after 2 years to a Hall of Famer because the right coaches developed him.

That’s why guys like Matt Leinart and Matt Ryan are going to be busts in my opinion, because Atlanta and Arizona have such high coach turnovers and no real great QB coaches, while guys like Jay Cutler and Phillip Rivers have blossomed into solid QBs because of steady coaching staffs with great coaches.

Don’t give up on Allen, or anyone else in their first 2-3 years on our roster, just yet. Now we have a solid foundation with great coaches, and a lot of guys who you think will be busts now may end up being solid starters or even Hall of Famers in a few years.

I don’t care what anyone says, the most important parts of any football team are consistency, chemistry, and stability. We have that now. The rest is just patience.

I understand why you guys are fed up with Roth, but lets get this straight; If he doesn’t fit with the Dolphins it won’t be because he is too small. The guy weighs 285 lbs. That’s fine for the DE spot. He also has the strength to get the job done as well. I think he’ll do fine. He is a much better prospect than Starks at DE. These guys Allen, Crowder, and Roth will be solid, but the key to this season depends on the QB position.