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Jason Taylor to skip training camp, demands trade

Head coach Tony Sparano, at his press conference today following an OTA, decided to tell the media exactly what's going on with this Jason Taylor saga.  And it's getting ugly:

"This is what I know and I'm glad we know this. We got new information and that's important. I know that Jason is not going to be at any OTAs [Organized Team Activities]. I know that Jason is not going to be at any minicamps. I know Jason is not going to be at training camp."

"Jason is a player under contract with the Miami Dolphins. He knows that. Both parties are well aware of the information. That's all I'm going to say about it."

It's also being reported that Taylor's agent has told the Dolphins on many different occasions that he will not be reporting to training camp for the Dolphins because he is demanding a trade.

So now this is getting very ugly and it's going to be interesting to see who blinks first.

Will it be Taylor, as he gets hit with a fine each day he misses training camp?  Or will it be Bill Parcells and Jeff Ireland, who will look to move Taylor?

Here's what we know:  if Taylor is traded and the Dolphins receive less than a 2nd round pick, it's likely that the front office blinked first.  If Taylor ends up in camp, then Taylor blinked first.

The reason I say that the compensation has to be at least a 2nd rounder is because that was what this front office was holding out for leading up to the draft.

So my question for you all:  Are you pissed off a Taylor now or does he still get a free pass from many of you?  And do you think a deal will get done that pleases both sides?

Hat tip to "Finnatic" for posting a fanpost about this.

[UPDATE] I just want to quickly say what angers me the most about this situation.  Remember Nick Saban?  Remember how angry everyone was when he LIED?  Why no anger towards Jason for being just as much of a liar as Saban was?  I was just watching NFL Live, and Taylor, on Monday's Mike & Mike in the Morning, said in response to what's next after the dancing is over with, "Get back to Miami and get back to work."  LIAR!!

But I guess Taylor gets a free pass for lying while Saban got burned at the stake for his lies.  At least, that's how it seems when I talk with Dolphin fans.

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What are your thoughts about Jason Taylor?
  • He's an all-time great Dolphin who I still love and respect. The front office should honor his request.
  • I'm tired of Jason's crap this offseason, so f*ck him! Let him sit out or retire.
  • I still appreciate all Jason has done for this franchise. But at this point, he needs to go.
  • Both parties here are wrong and I'm undecided about how this should be rectified.

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I'm Glad its out in the open

Jason will not report until September unless the FO gets a 1st or 2nd which no team will part with unless they have a injury during training camp. Jason will show up play 10-15 snaps a game until he learns the defense. I wouldn’t be surprised if The FO makes a move at the LBer position in case JT decides to hold out the season, Which would be foolish on his part. No pay and he would be a year older. Let’s move on from this and root for those who are out there busting there butts this week and let JT live with the decision he made along with the consequences.

by jvw on May 21, 2008 2:56 PM EDT   0 recs

I love JT but...

He is starting to sound a lot like Saban. If you don’t want to be here then either just come out and say it or shut your mouth and don’t say anything. He first said he was going to take a couple of days off and then report to mini camp on Thursday, then he said he was going to new york then back to LA to take care of some stuff THEN he was coming back for mini camp. and all the leadership bull, all the while he had no intension of coming at all. Why say your coming when your not. Just Say your not or dont say anything he outright lied on two occasions

by crzynick25 on May 21, 2008 3:00 PM EDT   0 recs

That's awesome!

So should we refer to him as “Jason Saban” or “Nick Taylor”? I wont repeat the same puke again – I expressed my displeasure with JT in the Fanpost section. Here is my question though…....with all the rumor and he said she said, did JT or his agent request a trade before the draft? I am 100% solid that Jake had to be our #1 guy but do you think this would have changed the way the rest of the draft went if they were under the impression that JT would be a Phin this year?

mophins

by mophins on May 21, 2008 3:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The most disgraceful PHIN EVER!

This guy makes me puke!

by JGray on May 21, 2008 3:49 PM EDT   0 recs

i had his back before

but how is him holding out for a trade that much different from chad johnson

you have a contract, play it…training camp is mandatory

its just sad

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 21, 2008 3:50 PM EDT   0 recs

Losing Respect

Great player but I am a full fledged Dolphin Fan & I am losing respect and patience with JT!

by MassFinFan65 on May 21, 2008 4:08 PM EDT   0 recs

whats wrong with....

what Strahan did… is anyone still talking about how he didnt attend all of training camp??? Granted, its a new defense, but like Jason said, he can learn it. Its fine.

by YatilGinnJr on May 21, 2008 4:08 PM EDT   0 recs

Strahan

Was holding out for a better contract because he believed he could help the team and deserved to be financially compensated.

JT believes he is the team and better than the team. He has a contract!

by JGray on May 21, 2008 4:10 PM EDT   0 recs

wow, all respect that had for JT as a football player and a representative of miami juz flew out the window.
i even think chad johnson was a bigger man than JT, first of al chad never went on DWTS and chad was man enough to demand a trade himself instead of gettin his agent to do it.

QB Playoffs this season… Win or Go Home
-by Little Nicky 21

by NeverSellout on May 21, 2008 4:13 PM EDT   0 recs

JT is a sellout...

QB Playoffs this season… Win or Go Home
-by Little Nicky 21

by NeverSellout on May 21, 2008 4:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That caught me off guard, too.

Dammit, whose Jersey should I buy now?

No one is proven yet and if they are, they are old or want to be traded.

I can still rep the 54, but it’s just not the same now that he’s a Cowboy.

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by qbinfin on Apr 27, 2008 3:27 PM PDT

by DolfinPhan on May 21, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Tough One

This isa tough situation. Yeah. I love JT for all he has done for us over the years. And I can kinda understand him wanting out. You only have one life and would like to win the Super Bowl. Plus remember, the Fins cut Zach, his freakkin’ brother-in-law. I know my family comes before work. I think it is underestimated how much that may have pissed him off. Maybe he liked Capers too. Plus Bill comes in with his act and tryies to lay the tough guy with JT and JT just isn’t going to drink the kool-aid.

I think he has been demanding a trade all along. And you know what, we’ve probably been planning to trade him the whole time too. How many DE did we draft? We clearly have been planning to move on without him.

I can understand criticizing him for not being up front about demanding a trade, but at the same time, I would be critical if he did come out to the media and just say it. If he procliams a trade demand, that lowers his value cause other teams know we have to trade him. Just like what happend with Trent Green!

It is sad to see it end this day. Reminds me of Marino, when a new regime took over and showed him the door. Frankly, I dont think its all that big of a deal if he’s not on the team next year. We had him last year and we only got 1 win. Let the rookie DEs play and get some experience.

I was pissed to see him say that he hopes to be remembered as an actor in 10 years. WTF? Then quit football and go act!

by smirish on May 21, 2008 4:14 PM EDT   0 recs

Here come the trade rumors:

Jacksonville showed the most interest before this news and I can assure you that they’ll take a serious look now. I’d imagine that the 3rd round pick offered by the Jaguars around draft time will look a little more attractive.

-Chris

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by River City Rage on May 21, 2008 4:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Withhold Judgement

To me it makes sense to wait this one out before passing judgment on JT. Do we even know for sure that this news is coming from JTs camp and is not a Parcell’s ploy to make JT look bad.

Either way, just move on people. With JT or without, our team is rebuilding. This whole story is useless. We are not going to the Super Bowl next season. So why all the fuss? Let them do whatever they think is best and lets start talking about the players who are showing up to camp.

Anyway, thats what I think about that.
#13

by 13FinsFan on May 21, 2008 4:39 PM EDT   0 recs

Nobody will trade for him now!

That has been thrown out the window. Or maybe danced off the stage.

All Parcells wanted was, are you in or are you out. JT didn’t give him and answer, which tells Parcells, that he is out.

by JGray on May 21, 2008 4:40 PM EDT   0 recs

My first thought was the same as your's about the Nick Saban scene

Just the other day, in his own words, not twisted by the press, JT asserted that he would be in training camp and would play for the Fins and everything would be fine.

What changed? Did he get a movie offer? Did his guest spot on good morning america turn into an offer to host the show?

IMO, this just makes him a liar. And if he doesn’t report to camp and play this season, he is not the “good guy” I thought he was.

It doesn’t just matter how you start…. it also matters how you finish.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 21, 2008 4:57 PM EDT   0 recs

There is no way

we get a second for him

by Patssuck456 on May 21, 2008 5:04 PM EDT   0 recs

Until September

We will not know what will happen.

I do know this now: I am very interested in what Quentin Moses can do.

www.thephinisher.com

by The Phinisher on May 21, 2008 5:07 PM EDT   0 recs

I like what Omar wrote in his blog

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2008/05/jason-taylor-go.html

“Could JT seriously pull a Jim Brown juke and walk away from the game in the prime of his career?

Is that what this is all about, or did the Trifecta tell Taylor he might as well not report in July if he’s going to miss all of May and June?

If things are so great for you without football, how about trying life without it now for good. See you when we see you, but remember we still own your rights buddy.

Disclosing Taylor’s planned absence turns the tables on him and his camp, making Taylor now look like the bad guy, and lightening the warden’s villain status a bit.

No longer can Taylor be viewed as the South Florida star trying to set up his next career by missing “voluntary workouts.”

Twinkle Toes Taylor now instantly gets painted as the distracted athlete who has abandoned his franchise, the one that made him a wealthy superstar.”

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 21, 2008 5:14 PM EDT   0 recs

hwyatt3, what do you have to say now?

I would really like to hear your opinion on this one, given the vehement defense of mister Taylor in your previous post.

Quotes:
“I’m willing to bet that Jason Taylor… ...is relieved to know that some of you guys are able to live with his current career decisions. Whew! He’s wiping the sweat off his brow right now. Give me a break will ya! I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. He will be here in June and he will run all over the guys who are huffin’ and puffin’ in the weight room right now.”

and….

“You should be proud that he’s not demanding a trade or urinating in night clubs or waving guns around or punching people out…he’s dancing!...and getting in great shape while doing it, football or otherwise. Please go away with your complaints, come back in June and eat crow pie then.”

Still think it’s no big thing and he will be back?
Just curious.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 21, 2008 5:23 PM EDT   0 recs

nicely done

going back and getting the quotes from him.

by Matty I on May 21, 2008 9:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hehe... yeah, I'm probably being a little too contentious right now.

I respect his right to his opinion.

I’m just really pissed off at JT for giving that BS on the ESPN blog the other day. I actually bought it and was feeling pretty okay with him missing the voluntary stuff, thinking he would be back for mandatory camps in June.

With Bill P and Co., I was looking forward to more football and less drama this year, after the PanMoronic era we have had to endure since the departure of Shula.

Message to JT: Retire or report! Pick one and get to it! At this point you have lowered your trade value to the point that I seriously doubt you are going to be able to force BillP to trade you! Leave the drama in Hollywood!

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 21, 2008 9:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He's a piece of shit

I told Saban to stick his book, he wrote, “Do You Want to be a Champion, up his ass.

And now I’m saying, Jason, you can stick your MVP trophy and all the accolades up your ass!

I’m sick and tired of all these millionaire pre madonnas who think the evrything is owed to them.

Ha! Second place in the dancing is first looser.

So there.

by Alpha6 on May 21, 2008 5:24 PM EDT   0 recs

LOL! "first looser" :)

gotta remember that one.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 21, 2008 5:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Just another case of fickle fans

Why don’t you guys try to pull the camera back a bit and take the long view of this situation. How easily it seems everyone forgets who exactly we are talking about here. This isn’t Jason Allen we are talking about, it’s Jason Taylor. You know, the guy who has poured every drop of blood, sweat, and tears into this franchise for the past decade-plus. Don’t be so hasty to turn your back on one of the few legends this team could call its own in recent times.

I’ve written more about this here: http://phinaticism.blogspot.com/2008/05/clearing-air-on-jason-taylor-situation.html

But I’m sure it won’t change any of your hot-headed and angry minds.

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by PhinPhan in MA on May 21, 2008 5:28 PM EDT   0 recs

what are you talking about?

we are talking about this football season. how can you not be pissed about how this hurts the team? Sure, JT gets kudos for what he has done, but that doesn’t excuse him from bailing out now. If he retires, fine. He can make that choice without a hit to his integrity. But he is under contract, and unless he retires, you can not “spin” this as “he has a right to play for a contender”.

If he is under contract, and the current staff feels that they need him, or can’t get appropriate value in a trade, then he either shows up for the mandatory camps, and plays this season, or he is an ass.

He might be a “100 most beautiful people” ass, but an ass all the same.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 21, 2008 5:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It’s pretty clear that this staff doesn’t want him, otherwise they wouldn’t have tried to trade him during the draft or Sparano wouldn’t have made as many subtle references to the hard work all the other guys have been doing this offseason, as if Taylor hasn’t been working just as hard.

It’s not “spinning” the story to say that Taylor has the right to play for a contender. That’s the just the facts. Look past the aqua and orange laundry for a second and realize that a player that has conducted himself like Jason Taylor has and who has been let down several times by that same organization deserves an out. Even the owner, Wayne Huizenga, has said that Taylor deserves this. Don’t be so quick to adopt the mindset of every single new staff towards those players who have withstood them all.

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by PhinPhan in MA on May 21, 2008 5:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It is definitely NOT a fact that Taylor has a right to play for a contender.

at best it is an opinion, albeit one that does not recognize the actual facts.
Fact: Jason Taylor has a contract to play for the Dolphins in 2008.
Fact: Jason Taylor will be paid well for his services, according to his contract.
Fact: Jason Taylor has a right to retire at any time, and not play football.
Fact: If Jason Taylor chooses to not play football for the Miami Dolphins this year, and not retire from the NFL, he does not have the right to play football for another team without a trade or release from the Miami Dolphins organization.

I’ll guarantee you that no where in his contract is a clause that states, “If Mr. Taylor deems the Miami Dolphins to not be playoff contenders in any given year, Mr. Taylor has the option to void his contract and sign with another franchise.”. Now if he DOES have that clause in there, then I stand corrected… it would be a fact that he has a right to play for a contender.

How many players get stuck on sucky teams? How many players end their careers on sucky teams? The bottom line is the NFL is a job, and you are being paid to do it. And if you don’t like the job, you can quit. JT hasn’t “earned a right” to play for a contender, because he has played well for the Dolphins for 11 years. JT has “earned” millions of dollars from the Miami Dolphins for playing well for 11 years.

I’m not cryin’ for poor JT.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 21, 2008 6:35 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

Amen!

Here’s a question….What if Marino pulled these kind of sissy antics when he was clearly carrying the team for the most part on his own? Marino will always be held back in the greatest QB debate because he never won a Superbowl. Difference is he was a class act all the way to the end….....even when JJ was a complete Jackoff and forced him out. It wasn’t Marino’s fault that he never had a top quality team around him. What if when Shula split Dan decided, you know what…...I’d like to play for a contender. I think I’ll hold out of camp and demand a trade. Would never happen. Period. Why? Honor. He’s a man of his word. JT should give Dan a call and learn a thing or two.

mophins

by mophins on May 21, 2008 7:12 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

He should also....

ask Dan about acting. Marino was awesome in Ace Ventura!

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y not if im wrong who will remember

by qbinfin on Apr 27, 2008 3:27 PM PDT

by DolfinPhan on May 21, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

isatoners…

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y not if im wrong who will remember

by qbinfin on Apr 27, 2008 3:27 PM PDT

by DolfinPhan on May 21, 2008 9:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Langford and Merling

are the futrue of the team, thats why we drafted them. id love to get rid of him for some secondary help. we need it bad

by dlux2561 on May 21, 2008 5:34 PM EDT   0 recs

im just glad...

that i didnt get roped into watching that stupid fkeen dance show just cus im a finfan… and i think anyone that did has got to be extremely pist right now .. what a total farce!!! ..someone posted that its important how u finish… i tend to agree, and this kinda says it all doesnt it? Just from a career standpoint it strikes me as ‘publicity suicide’.. has he subscribed to the Ozzy Osborne philosophy that ‘bad publicity is still publicity’??? oh well, goes to show you that even the mvp of the nfl is no brain surgeon… i certainly gave him the benefit of the doubt that he was a classier person than all of this. shrug i guess after all is said, he apparently isnt “fired with enthusiasm”, and thus should probably be…..

by Krab on May 21, 2008 6:13 PM EDT   0 recs

I was wrong. JT is being an ass.

Did anyone notice the emphasis on missing camp, not the season.

Sparano and Company are certainly leaving the door open.

I think this is going to be simple. What Parcells said originally is probably the case.

Jason Taylor is under contract. He will play for the Dolphins or retire.

I don’t care about DWTS. I don’t care if he wants to go to a birthday party.

I do care if he knows management won’t budge on a trade and so is in turn acting petulant, hoping to stir up a trade.

I don’t dislike him.

It’s just that he has lost a lot of his stoic greatness. A lot.

www.thephinisher.com

by The Phinisher on May 21, 2008 6:58 PM EDT   0 recs

I feel duped as well.

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y not if im wrong who will remember

by qbinfin on Apr 27, 2008 3:27 PM PDT

by DolfinPhan on May 21, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i feel let down after defendin him 4 so long

QB Playoffs this season… Win or Go Home
-by Little Nicky 21

by NeverSellout on May 21, 2008 8:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

negativity

If JT wants to go to Hollywood. . .fine. Get the new rooks a bunch of reps. JT was a rookie once. I want to focus on the good stuff. Ronnie is running well. Ricky is back and seems to be focused. Get the Offense pumped up. Don’t forget last year our defense was in the lower end of the NFL with JT. Come back or get out! Either way don’t bring me down.

Phatfinfan

by phatfinfan on May 21, 2008 7:01 PM EDT   0 recs

thats the spirit!

QB Playoffs this season… Win or Go Home
-by Little Nicky 21

by NeverSellout on May 21, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Either Way

we were gonna have to look past the JT era to the future. If he eventually shows up and plays, great, but he won’t be here for the long haul and he won’t be contributing to a Super Bowl run in 3 or 4 years, so I say trade him. Take what you can get and let him walk. If he doesn’t want to be a Dolphin, bye. Step back and look further into the future… whoever we can get in a trade, whether it’s players or draft picks, will be here when were ready to contend. We can keep JT, and he can be a stud on a 5-11 team, or we can trade him and get someone who will be on a 11-5 team a few years from now while JT is making movies in Hollywood.

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by Little Nicky 21 on May 21, 2008 8:30 PM EDT   0 recs

Seems to me

to be nothing more than a pissing contest between (little kids) Jason and Bill. At this point I’m getting very tired of the whole mess. There is no class from either side as I see it but less from Bill and co. than Jason because they (Sparano) dropped the bomb about Jason being a no show. That is, I guess, a move to force Jason’s hand. I just wish that they would both move on because we, the fans, have had 5 years of soaps so far. It’s getting VERY OLD!!!!!

by gafinfan on May 21, 2008 8:56 PM EDT   0 recs

strahan

he missed training camp and pretty much all activities last year, so whyare you guys crying about the dolphins best d-end of all time missing, maybe hes tired and fed up, let him pace it out, he hasnt done any thing wrong and hes not a hold out, so stfu

the gr8 1

by dolfan702 on May 21, 2008 9:04 PM EDT   0 recs

not a holdout?

once he begins missing camp in July, then he is a hold out

by Matty I on May 21, 2008 9:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

you got that right!

and once he begins missing camp, his trade value goes through the floor. If I am Bill P, there is no way he get traded at that point. The best thing JT can do if he wants out is report, play well, and make a side deal with Parcells to trade him to a contender before the trade deadline.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 21, 2008 10:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

dif situation

strahan plays with a veteran group and he was playing in a situation where it was the same coach and the same system as the year before… JT – is playing with a young line and a new coach and system.

by W NY Fins Fan on May 21, 2008 10:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The Curse Continues

So dissapointed. I held out hope that after that ridiculous cha cha shite he was going to morph back into the aqua and orange uni and start thinking about smacking Tom Brady. It just feels like we can’t catch one frickkin break! Our best player basically said he’s not playing for us after a season where we won 1 game. I guess Murphy’s got to hang his hat somwhere.

by inisfree on May 21, 2008 9:11 PM EDT   0 recs

we are catching a break

We are moving into the future with 99% of the team already at the voluntary camp busting their ass for a season still 4 months away. I love everything that JT has done but we are moving out of the curse. Why should BP give JT the time of day? He is not there. JT a great guy and a hell of an athlete, but, he is the leader of last years below average defense. Ronnie is looking good. The O-line is coming together. Ricky is finally doing the right things, we have signed most of our draft picks, and we drafted a potential stud DE @ #32, actually a first rounder. JT deserves to move on to Hollywood and the Dolphins deserve to step forward out of their past. Little Nicky, I usually agree with most things you post, but 5-11? no way we are worse than 8-8 . WOOOO, Phatty is already feeling the fire. . . bring on the J-E-T-S and pour me a cold one. I’M BRINGING MY HULK HAND BEER HOLDERS TO THE TAILGATE PARTY!

Phatfinfan

by phatfinfan on May 21, 2008 9:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You know what's stupid?

JT can still make a solid bid for the HOF by playing well for the Fins for two more years. He doesn’t have to go to a contender or hoist the Lombardi. He just needs to pad his stats. If he quits now, or sits out for the year, he damages his chances.

Dumb!

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 21, 2008 10:05 PM EDT   0 recs

i wonder who is next years contenders

two things i know for sure, 1. i have no idea who will win the super bowl next year. 2. bill parcells only wants a committment, he isn’t playing games, he just wants to hear taylor say i am on your side. bill’s ego is big, but he isn’t stupid. this guy got 4 more great years out of bryan cox of all people. i really can’t stand hearing players say trade me to a contender, how awesome would it be if the dolphins got farther than his supposed contender next year. tony romo breaks his leg, barber twist an ankle, not a contender, tom brady twist an ankle, peyton manning, etc, you get what i am saying. make the team your on better, period. as much as i liked zach thomas, he gets one more tough shot to the head and he is out, at middle linebacker that is highly likely and at 5mil a year not a good gamble, that was business, taylor should have been kept, with a committment, now dump him for whatever you can get, he is useless.

by raa1010 on May 21, 2008 10:08 PM EDT   0 recs

Glad the phins let it out

I’ve been getting a lot of flack around here for saying that JT is the same as ocho zippo(selfish) except he has a better PR people around him… he’d been playing the old two face routine say one thing to the public while having childish spats with the new admin… Well its obvious that the triad decided to release the info and stop protecting JT’s image and let it be know the reality of JT’s attitude. Amen to that. It’s about time JT takes some heat for being selfish and I hope the triad sticks to their guns and JT has to retire and move to italy to make movies or the team getts appropriate compensation for trading a very talented player who has been a disruption to the team for 2 years now.

by W NY Fins Fan on May 21, 2008 10:22 PM EDT   0 recs

Big difference here....

Assuming that JT actually did demand a trade (as it appears), at least he let the team (if not the public) know his desire to move on, something Saban did not do. Also, not making such dissatisfaction public (i.e., as long as other teams weren’t sure about it) could only strengthen the Dolphins’ bargaining power.

by Deof Movestofca on May 21, 2008 11:43 PM EDT   0 recs

What's up guys? Hdub here!

...this is what I said after a recent Matty post…I guess you didn’t see it.

“I don’t know what to make of this JT thing anymore…I do know that he will play great wherever he is. When the trade rumors started weeks ago I was all for letting him go compete for a title somewhere else if we could get decent compensation for him and I am still ok with that but I’m with gophish that we can’t cut him and it will be very disappointing if he ends up being a no-show. I am with you Matty that no one player is bigger than the team and I too am a Dolphin first. Thanks for the post and if there is some validity to this recent rumor, touche’. However, too much was made of the "Dancing" thing and I really believe that is has little to do with his ultimate decision. You might have something there Yorke. Actually, all of this mystery this year is kind of exciting.”

Hey look, none of us are Nostrodamas. I don’t waiver in my opinions because until we know the truth or until stuff plays out none of us really know what’s up. I would like to see Jason stay but if he has to go, he has to go. That’s how I felt in the beginning and that’s how I feel now. Do I think he can still play great football…Yes! Do I think we should berate him because of the difficult situation he has been put in by the new system (yes, he has been PUT there), absolutely not. He may very well be in a day to day situation with this thing just like the rest of us.

GO DOLPHINS!!!

by hwyatt3 on May 23, 2008 9:24 AM EDT   0 recs

Sure, I saw it. :)

If you are talking to me, I made my post to you the day before you posted this in the other thread.

My point wasn’t to argue about whether you were right or wrong, as much as to contradict your assertion that if we didn’t support JT, we weren’t “true fans”.

I am a die hard Fin Fan! Right now, it looks like JT is hurting the team by not wrapping up the dancing thing and heading back to Miami. I seriously doubt Sparano would state that JT was not going to be at mandatory camps unless JT had told him something to that effect.

However, he gets a hall pass until June 6th. If he shows to the first MANDATORY camp, fine, all if water under the bridge.

But at this point, I wouldn’t get my hopes up.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on May 23, 2008 11:51 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

BTW

Headlines, drama and rumors have ALWAYS circulated around Bill Parcells. That’s one of the reasons I was thrilled to find out he was coming here. He gives us a lot of “face time” as one fan wrote talking about JT. It’s just what this teams needs, not the negative thug type publicity but the “Hey what’s going on down there in Miami? What is their next move? type stuff. Parcells brings that. The players are hyped up already and so are we, the fans.

GO DOLPHINS!!!

by hwyatt3 on May 23, 2008 9:33 AM EDT   0 recs

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