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Some draft insider nuggest on 'what if' trades...

Peter King had the following in his column today (see below). It is interesting to see what the offer was and what was at stake. I think it kind of gives some insight into how teams work the phones, review offers, and make decisions.

 

Ironically, it is suggested that Cam Cameron played a role in evaluating the picks which is odd given his performance last year with our QB's...

 

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Shortly after noon, Baltimore GM Ozzie Newsome offered St. Louis first-, second- and fourth-round picks this year and a third-rounder in 2009 for the Rams' first-round pick to select Matt Ryan. In essence, to move up six spots in the first round, Baltimore was offering the 38th and 106th pick this year and, say, around the 80th pick next year. Tempting, St. Louis thought. So the Rams called Atlanta, at number three, asking for a second-round pick this year to swap spots. If St. Louis traded with Atlanta, the Rams would pick up a free first-day pick and still get Chris Long. If the Rams traded with Baltimore, they'd lose out on Long, the only legit pass-rusher they liked in this draft.

Though the Rams never asked, Baltimore was unwilling to sweeten the pot. I'm told a sweetener like next year's first-round pick instead of the third- would have gotten the deal done for St. Louis. Two reasons the Ravens didn't ratchet up the offer one last time. One: New offensive coordinator Cam Cameron loves Ryan, but he also likes Flacco and Henne, and he thinks Flacco might have the traits and the arm to be special. Two: New coach John Harbaugh wanted picks. He wanted an influx of talent for this first-year coaching staff to coach, and if they had to spend a mint to get Ryan, three or four of those bright prospects -- like second-round back Ray Rice -- would never have been Ravens today.

The Rams called the Ravens back and turned down the offer about five minutes before the draft began. "It was a really hard decision,'' said one of the Ram execs in the room. "But it was more about our belief in Chris Long and the fact that we thought he was the perfect pick for us more so than anything else. Anybody else but Chris Long, and we'd probably have done it. But when we walked out of the room and made the phone call to Baltimore, we were in 100 percent agreement that it was the right decision.''

 

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uh oh cam cameron liked henne...hope its not bad luck

QB Playoffs this season… Win or Go Home
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by NeverSellout on Apr 28, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

I think BP’s interest cancels Cam-Cam’s out… I hope anyway

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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh

the dreaded “C-C” name.

You savvy?

by Neo on Apr 28, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just for the record:

Ray Rice is going to end up being a steal as a 2nd round pick. If he ever gets a chance to start (like if McGahee gets hurt), he’s going to surprise the country. He’s “scary” good.

by Matty I on Apr 28, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

i agree

i bet cam cam was against this pick

QB Playoffs this season… Win or Go Home
-by Little Nicky 21

by NeverSellout on Apr 28, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup...

Rutgers alum here… can attest to the fact that this guy is a beast, and also ran a 4.44 in the combine to erase doubts about his speed. his 100yd time probly not as good but the kid is a workhouse.

by YatilGinnJr on Apr 28, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

did he go lower than Leonard last season?

I know he kinda shared carries with Brian Leonard 2 seasons ago when Rutgers made that run to the BCS, and Leonard got picked by the Rams last draft. I can’t remember when Leonard got picked, but it would be a mistake if Rice went lower. I think there will be ALOT of guys taken late in round 2 and especially on day 2 that will have a big impact on their teams. This has to be the deepest draft in years

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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 28, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't Rice a fairly small back?

at something like 5’8-5’9 and 200? Is he the kind of back in the NFL who will hold up to the pounding of 300+ carries a season?

I like him as a player and his work ethic, but it is a different game in the pros…

by Natalya on Apr 29, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

There ain't many of em..

but guys like Brian Westbrook and Warrick Dunn are both in the 5’8-5’9 range between about 190 and 210 lbs. They’ve both been pretty durable throughout their careers. LT is about 5’10 220. If Rice can put on 10 lbs of muscle without losing any speed, I think he has a chance to be successful

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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 29, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

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