2008 NFL Draft Overflow Thread #2
by Matty I on Apr 26, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
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This day keeps getting more and more interesting. Quick recap:
-Dolphins take Clemson DE Phillip Merling at #32.
-Lorenzo Booker traded to Eagles for their 4th round pick.
-Jason Taylor "might" be on his way to Tampa Bay in return for at least Tampa's 2nd rounder.
Full draft thoughts on today's events and tomorrow's events to come all week next week.
**UPDATE 8:11pm** The Sun-Sentinel is reporting that the Dolphins have indeed traded Jason Taylor to the Bucs. However, it's not know what Miami gets in return.
**UPDATE 8:36pm** It seems this report about a trade isn't accurate or, if it is, it's not for a 2nd round pick. Meanwhile, the Dolphins have drafted Michigan QB Chad Henne with the 57th overall pick. I guess you can never have too many QBs. And competition at every position is a good thing. John Beck and Josh McCown now have another competitor and it will make for a fun training camp.
**UPDATE 9:10pm** Well it's been a fun day. But I'm heading out of here for now. Feel free to carry on the conversation below for as long as you'd like. We'll have, much more on the events of today in the coming days and weeks. Join me back here tomorrow at 10 am EDT when day 2 gets going, with the Dolphins holding the first pick of round 3.
The day one conversation continues below...
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Wow, this automatic updating thing is really taking off, isn’t it?
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Laws is gone
if JT goes, Groves would be a steal
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions
Dont forget about Sims
We had him in for 2 visits. He would be depth at 57 probably.
not a bad choice there either
still alotta talent left people
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
it wont be announced
until TB is on the clock
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure
I guess because it will announced through the asst. commish. like the rest of the trades
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
me too......
but it will most likely be reported on the pick rather than before
i think we are
im watching the nfln online and the 52 selction has the team picture blurred out, computer mistake? I don’t know but hmmmm
Just wondering...
Do any other sites have as many draft comments as we do?
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SB Nation sites, that is
Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi
yea
but they suck
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Jets site does, but its all folks discussing the economy and fine wines
by pitaq on Apr 26, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha
thats cuz all the real Jet fans are burning cars because they traded their draft away for a TE lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Groves?
I hope I hope
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
DeSean Jackson
finally off the board
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
probably
and Starks can play there as well I think
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Could you imagine.....
Groves at 52 and Sweed at 57.
I am
imagining, and I like what I see
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
why is Jackson wearing sunglasses in his living room?
Turn down the track lighting if its that bright DeSean.
hes just too cool
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
apparently
he thinks he’s jerry rice with style
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
nobody has mentioned Calais Campbell, not that we would draft him, but he has slipped some what, i guess the rumors about him we’re true.
Champions aren't made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them -- a desire, a dream, a vision.
Muhammad Ali, American Boxer
you jinxed it
he just went to AZ
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Or for some Miami humor a pre 2007 Jesse Chatman
by johnson2399 on Apr 26, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
aka
a fxxkin cow
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok while we wait
a) who wants JT to be traded here?
b) who should we take if he’s dealt?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions
my thoughts exactly
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
A) if it is for the reported trade
B) Limas Sweed
ESPN just switched to the NBA game >_>
Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi
You all understand
that when the trade is announced at 52, all the analysts will be saying its for Henne. If we fight the powers that be and draft Groves, I will start crying.
Teams between 52 and 57
53 – PIT
54 – TEN
55 – BAL
56 – GB
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions
Dammm there goes Kelly.
Champions aren't made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them -- a desire, a dream, a vision.
Muhammad Ali, American Boxer
here we go, the moment of truth
Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi
edge of my seat
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions
yes dammit lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Draft
Matt Mosley, of ESPN.com, reports NFL commissioner Roger Goodell announced the first round of the 2008 NFL Draft lasted three hours and 30 minutes. It is the shortest first round since 1990, when it lasted three hours and 24 minutes.
You savvy?
trade to the Jags?
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JAX???
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions
Jacksonville
just fxxked us over
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions
maybe its part a deal for JT?
JAX was reportedly interested earlier in the day
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions
SUN-SENTINEL: Taylor to Tampa Bay
Sun-Sentinel is saying Jason taylor has been traded to Tampa Bay…
no no no listen
Maybe Jax wanted JT, but we didnt want any of the picks they had, so we told em to move up and get Groves and then we deal…?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions
Tampa was trying to get more picks maybe before
trading to us I hope
I don't see how Jax screwed us
We got JT and we already drafted a DE. What we were gonna draft another? I agree that grooves might be used in a trade, but I doubt very much we would’ve drafted ANOTHER DE,
You savvy?
I agree he will get them back but he got screwed not once but
twice and it was quick
lol then trade em both to Cam-Cam in B-more
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
New update
I just got this from over at finheaven:
Jason Taylor to Green Bay??
I am here in Wisconsin listening to 107.5 The Fan in Green Bay and they said it is “very likely” already a done deal with JT going to Green Bay for their #56 and #60 picks.
just saying, that’s what they’re reporting!!
shit I like that one
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
right
it does sound like a good deal for us if its true
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe we nixed the TB pick for a better one?
We shall see with this pick, remember that TB still has a 2nd rounder right after us.
We dont have 58
I dont think Jax trades with us for JT. That would give them Harvey, JT, and Groves.
Stupid Pizza Hut commercials making me hungry....
Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi
that one is better
but I feel like i was left at the alter I’ll wait for the official word
Earl Bennett as WR
There are still some great players still available at skill positions like Bennett from Vandy
I would not be surprised with a DT..
Marcus Harrison maybe? BP is clearly building the lines up.. Could a guy Justin King last until the 3rd?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions
moment of truth
is the Packers deal true?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions
there goes brohm
and were on the clock for real this time
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions
What about Matty's Penn State guy?
Justin King is still out there :)
Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi
please please please
football god, no chad henne
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions
who is it!!!?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions
I know we have a shot load
of safeties, but Reggie Smith is still on the board. If not him, why not Conner?
nooooo
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions
And things get more interesting for John Beck
by Matty I on Apr 26, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
ill go on record
I don’t like the pick
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions
I trust Parcells
Go ahead and have the rookie learning in case Beck falters. Why put the franchise back another year and draft a QB next year, when he can sit and learn this year.
You savvy?
What about the Defense?
Wasn’t BP talking about the lines on offense and defense? This is crazy and useless
I never bought that BP was sold on Beck.
And this proves it.
hope so
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
My Only
hope is that they trade Chad to a sucker…........ please.
I don’t want us to be the suckers!!!!!!!!
What the hell just happened??????
no way he see's the field this year
becks got two years to win the job
great
so whos the App St. of the NFL?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
If Beck is as good as I think he might be, this can only help him.
Either he performs at a higher level and is spurred by the competition or he isn’t as good as I think. If he isn’t the answer, then maybe Henne is.
If we really wanted
something for camp and competition, then why not Ainge in the seventh.
Our defense is going to continue to suck wind and be ushers instead of punishers!!
Bill Parcells
Bill Parcells said (more than once) the team was going to draft a QB to compete with John Beck for the starting QB role…
John Beck should be the starting QB…
Screw tampa and Jacksonville
we should give charlotte JT for free so he can wreek havoc on tampa for the next 3 years
package beck and taylor to TB
for there 1st next year, this years 3rd and 6th
just pissed!!! this means beck will never get a fair shake
Matty I gotta know
How ya feel about this pick? You LOVE Beck. I like it. If Beck turns out not to be as good as we hope, wwe have another option learning/watching. Your thoughts.
You savvy?
I guess it's good insurance...
..but I still expect Beck to win the job.
Competition is never a bad thing.
Buzz:
Late day run on quarterbacks and both go to perfect locations. Remember that Henne goes fourth among the QB’s because 3-4 years from now he could be the best of the bunch. He shouldn’t be pressed into action, so he should have time to learn the offense.
You savvy?
App St.
Dex Jackson just went to TB.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions
Henne has a Todd Collins feel about him.
We just need to hang onto him for 10 yrs. Then he’ll be good.
Parcells has developed a QB or two in his time.
So you got to like that he sees something in Henne to draft him this high.
Can never have too many QBs
Beck lovers (myself included) take it easy. The best QB will be the starter.
Shoot the reporters
We need to all collectively shoot the reporters that said that JT was going to be traded today. What a bunch of losers. Got me all worked up for nothing.
NFL.COM
NFL.COM was saying Bill Parcells was high on Chad Henne.
I like the pick… and I believe John Beck will win the starting QB role while Chad Henne learns the playbook & NFL.
Like Matty I said
about Aaron Rodgers. John Beck better be scared. Thats gotta be a kick in the gut to him.
You savvy?
I need to sleep on this one for a night
Maybe I can talk myself into this pick by tomorrow morning. I’m starting to now, especially since Groves and Sweed went just before… I guess its the best value at that spot since he was a projected top rounder… We’ll see what happens tomorrow got pick 64 and 115, who do we take?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions
JT Trade
JT trade is still posted on Sun-Sentinel website…
Link: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-taylor0426,0,3889994.story
They're the only ones reporting it though.
Going to be egg on their face if its not true.
I think they just pulled it
link isnt working
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
yup
they did indeed pull it
And they will probably never bring up how they really screwed the pooch on that one.
Patrick Lee is off the board
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions
So much for John Beck....
I think the Henne pick shows that the new regime is not sold at all on Beck. You don’t take QB’s in the 2nd round for the sole purpose of making them a backup – unless of course, they don’t perform.
I could see Beck being the starter for a year or two.
I can’t see BP picking Henne this high with the intention of him being a back-up.
Maybe
Beck won’t be the starter at all or for that long. Maybe he’ll just be in there, take some lumps while Henne gets ready and then it gets turned over to Chad.
Unless Beck shows us something which he really didn’t last year, his time here seems to be limited.
I agree Nat
Beck shows the new regime something or he is out. He is old and say what ya will, Jake Long blocked for the guy and went to school with him, so I wonder which guy he will block harder for. Screw the being “professional” crap.
You savvy?
I feel used
I had come to terms with JT leaving and now he isnt, wtf, you know he wont stay a dolphin for much longer now he will probably retire with no chance at a ring and nothing for us. DAMN IT!!
Jump on the bandwagon
lol
Champions aren't made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them -- a desire, a dream, a vision.
Muhammad Ali, American Boxer
Or...
This is another presentation of Chad Henne.
WARNING: Video contains (lots of…) explicit language.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8bzZEtOcb8
Also, I wish I could hear the razzing that he’s going to get from Teddy Ginn for never beating OSU.
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Bennett to Dallas
no wonder they were willing to dump Fasano
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions
nope
they took Terrence Wheatley…
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions
Conner to the G-Men
to end the day? since he was projected to be their pick in round 1
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions
still a LOT of good talent out there for pick tomorrow
i imagine Parcells may be dealing the pick overnight
lol
ESPN2 has coverage until 11, whats left to talk about?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
So who's the target for tomorrows top pick?
I still think we need a OG, WR, LB, and CB
OG – Zuttah is the best one left I believe.
WR – Manningham Doucet Caldwell and Earl Bennett still there.
LB – Conner, Beau Bell, Tavares Gooden, sitting and waiting
CB – Godfrey, King, Reggie Smith available.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions
Also
Pat Sims at DT and Cliff Avril at OLB/DE
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
so do you think Zuttah is the guy to take?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
aint he a RU guy?
Jersey faithful lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm intrigued by Carl Nicks IF...
...he’s moved inside to guard. He’s massive and looks to be a better fit for a G.
wouldnt be bad either
I would love to see us start day 2 the same way we started day 1.. on the OL
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Bennett, King, Connor, Smith
But since we havne’t traded JT we don’t have much room for Connor so hopefully Reggie Smith
When you have 3 picks in the first 2 rounds and...
...the first pick in each round, you better have a good draft. :)
10 am
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm heading out of here.
Need to get my mind off this before we start back up tomorrow morning at 10 am.
Thanks to everyone for joining us!
JT trade Rumor???
I think this trade is a BS. The Sun Sentinal just took it off their site, and I can’t read it now and it should have been a 2nd round pick, cause if it is a 3rd there better be a 4th or a 5th rounder included. Let me know what you think.
If it ain't Miami Dolphins it's Crap!!!
good bye LoBo
I really believe that he is going to be a good RB that got away. I know he wasn’t a starter, but he had tremendous upside. Good luck LoBo, he’ll be good in Philly, they are good with small, fast RBs.
Phatfinfan
Who's still here?
what grade do you give our first day?
Recap :
1-1 Jake Long OT
2-32 Philip Merling DE
2-57 Chad Henne QB
Lorenzo Booker traded to PHI for their 4th rounder (pick 115)
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 26, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions
Not sure
The Chad Henne thing sort of tripped me up. Up to that point, I’d say B+. I’d say B- with Henne?? I’m shocked that we still have JT.
Phatfinfan
Well
the draft is never a 100% thing. In general, hitting on over 50% of your picks is pretty good.
The big development today, for me at least, was the Henne pick. It tells you everything you need to know about how the Parcells regime thinks of Beck. Which is to say, not very highly. With the multitude of needs the fins have, to draft a QB in round 2 and forgo filling another spot tells me they don’t see Beck as the answer. You don’t draft QB’s in the 2nd round just for the sake of ‘competition’.
That plus the trading of Lorenzo Booker gives a not so pretty picture of Muellers ‘07 draft….the 2nd round pick they hyped up (beck) is now on the cusp of being the odd man out and Booker, 3rd round is already gone.
B-
I like Long, I think Merling was an amazing value pick, but Henne. . . . I guess we got him ridiculously low since he was projected late round one or early two. . . I didn’t like the LoBo trade since he was 3rd rounder just last year- I feel like we should have at least broken even and gotten a 3rd for him if possible.
He15man^2. . .get ready
Henne comments from SI.com's Peter King from 5 days ago...
The hot name as we enter the final five predraft days? Michigan quarterback Chad Henne. Two scouts I trust told me over the weekend they like him better than they like Ryan. There’s a team somewhere between 8 and 17 - and I can’t figure out which one - interested in trading down a few slots and drafting Henne with a first-round pick.
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