The Case For Matt Ryan
First, before we get into anything here, I did want to just point out that the 2008 SB Nation Mock Draft is officially underway. I've made the first overall pick for the Dolphins and Ryan of Turf Show Times has made the second pick for the Rams. You can follow along with this mock draft, as well as get insight from the owner of New Era Scouting, Matt Miller, by heading over to Matt's SBN blog, Mocking The Draft.
Alright. Now onto the business at hand. Some people here have been clamoring for me to lay off Matt Ryan a bit. And perhaps I've been a little hard on the kid. So with that in mind, here are some of the things I like about the player affectionately known as "Matty Ice."
The first thing that stands out is his size. He's got the prototypical size that people look for in a quarterback, measuring in at just under 6'5 and 228 pounds. And he's got a frame which would allow him to even add 5 to 10 pounds of muscle. So he's certainly not a frail quarterback.
I also like his accuracy underneath. He's very good and hitting receivers who are coming across the field or running hooks. I've also seen some very solid throws by Ryan to receivers running both post patterns and flag patterns. So accuracy, from my end, isn't a huge concern. Sure, you can bring up the interceptions, but we'll get to them a little later.
MOST IMPRESSED WITH
Below are the things I'm most impressed with when watching Matt Ryan play, something I've been doing the past couple of days to get a fair read on his ability:
Field Vision
He really does do a great job of scanning the entire field. I saw him on numerous plays look to his 3rd and 4th options, which many times involved coming back and looking to the complete opposite side of the field from his primary read. That's something you don't see much of out of young quarterbacks. He's also very smart and can read defenses. Of course, it's his decision making that gets him into trouble at times. But we'll get to that in a few minutes.
Leadership
This has been the one thing that the draft gurus have been clamoring about when they reference Matt Ryan. And for good reason. Everything you read about Ryan is how he is a true leader of a team. From his work ethic to how he handles himself under pressure, this kid well in all situations and is a guy who teammates will look to when the times are tough. And all you need to be convinced of this is to check out this previously posted video of Matt Ryan lead the game winning drive against Virginia Tech last season. No doubt, he is poised in pressure situations and can be a leader both on and off the field.
Dealing with the Media
I also really like how Ryan handles himself off the field in terms of dealing with the media. He comes off as a genuinely nice kid. And his willingness to do this ESPN chat impressed me. I also liked a lot of the answers he gave. Specifically, this one below when asked if he'd prefer sitting a year or competing to start right away:
I like that. He wants to come in and compete to play right away. But he knows that the team drafting him will dictate how that goes and he wouldn't have a problem sitting. Sure, you can say he's been prepped for these questions (and I'm sure he has), but I like that he's still confident enough in his ability to say that he wants to come in and compete right away for the starting spot.
Due to the length of this, you'll have to click the "Read More" link to see the rest.
QUIETING SOME CRITICISM
Two of the major criticisms of Matt Ryan are his high interception totals and his inconsistency. And yes, they do worry me.
However, let's address the interceptions first. And in doing so, it's important to point out that Dan Marino, his final season at Pitt, threw over 20 interceptions (I believe it was 23, but don't hold me to that). I think that many of Matt's interceptions were a result of just trying to force the ball into tight spots. He's a gunslinger, but unfortunately doesn't have the great arm strength that most gunslingers have. However, this is a trait that can be improved with some coaching.
Also, in that ESPN chat, Ryan was asked about the INTs he threw, to which he responded:
Now, if Ryan is saying that the coaches wanted him to try and make plays, then his high interception total is completely understandable.
The other criticism of Ryan, like I said, is his inconsistency last season. But I was actually impressed with how he bounced back from bad games.
For example, he struggled against NC State last year, throwing for just 142 yards, completing only 44% of his passes. However, he followed up that game by traveling to Georgia Tech and throwing for 435 yards and a touchdown, completing 68% of his passes. Then in their first loss of the season, to Florida State, Ryan completed just 49% of his passes and threw 3 interceptions. The following week, he bounced back by throwing for 421 yards, 3 touchdowns, and completed 59% of his passes (though he still threw 2 picks). In the end, his BC team lost 42-35. But that loss can't really be blamed on Matt.
What this shows, to me, is how confident he is in his ability and how mentally tough he is. And mental toughness is a must in this league. Just ask Joey Harrington!
Now with all this said, I do still think that there's a "slim to none" chance that Ryan is taken by the Dolphins with the first overall pick. But I do wish him the best, though, wherever he does end up, as he seems like a very good kid.
Thoughts?
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I would also like to add regarding the Ints, that some of those can be attributed to having less than stellar WRs. Without the separation a good Wr can get, you will end up having to force the ball more than normal.
And this is the part you touched on that makes me REALLY like this kid:
~He really does do a great job of scanning the entire field. I saw him on numerous plays look to his 3rd and 4th options, which many times involved coming back and looking to the complete opposite side of the field from his primary read.~
You can see in some of his videos on youtube.com. The kid sees the entire field. You get open, he'll get the ball to you.
The Ints really don't bother me when you look at the fact that he threw 654 passes.
Welcome to the darkside, Matty. :)
I still don't think the Dolphins will draft him, even though I'd love it if they did.
Keep in mind that...
I would suggest you...
While in general I agree with you, the talent level in the pros does not allow you to design defenses to just shutdown one person. And look what one great WR can do for a team, ala Randy Moss. He gets aon team with good WRs its going to make his job much easier.
And I'm not talking about WRs running wide open. All you need is a yard or two separation.
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HA, HA, HA, HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by davehowardcustom on Apr 1, 2008 8:18 AM EDT reply actions
Very nice
Why did
by Finskikass on Apr 1, 2008 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
The word from the scouts is that Ryan is
That being said, I remember people drooling over Brohm last year, and have found at least one draft board that has Brohm rated higher than Ryan.
At the end of the day, I think that what is being over looked is that this is actually a pretty good crop of QBs, but there is no real clear superstar (it might be my imagination, but I think this is becoming the norm). But of the guys available, several have the potential to be real solid NFL guys.
That does make the prospect of drafting Ryan #1 a little less appealing, and I tend to agree that it is a long shot for it to happen. I do think the Fins will take a QB later in the draft to start developing.
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 1, 2008 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely right
Anyhow, I disagree about the coachability of "gunslingeriness". I mean, timid QBs like Joey Harrington might obey the coaches to the degree that he will not even throw the ball 10 yards downfield, but any self-respecting QB with an eye on greatness will play the game his own way. You know, try to make plays. It's just that some QBs are more naturally cautious or practical, and others lose sight of reality in the heat of the moment and take bad risks. Ryan is one of the latter and he definitely hasn't got anything on Brohm.
You guys are very convincing.
by Finskikass on Apr 1, 2008 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Props there fella!!!!!!
BTW, I forgot to say, "Nice post Matty"
I agree with your overall assessment. I like the kid. I just don't think he is gonna be a #1, and unless we are gonna play him right away, I don't think he should be #1. The guy we take at #1 needs to contribute right away. I think that is the biggest thing going against Ryan getting picked up by the Fins.
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 1, 2008 11:45 AM EDT reply actions
I don't think that's it.
What I REALLY think happened is that Matty found out that Ryan's nickname is Matty Ice.
(Matty I - Matty Ice.... they are related!)
;)
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 1, 2008 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
semi-ignorant question...
Please someone let me in on why so much fire for picking Ryan #1.
Thanks guys, I do love the discussions on this site.
Its pretty much what Matty wrote...
For myself, I see the perfect make-up of an NFL QB in this kid. He has the physical talents. None of his physical talents will jump off the screen at you, i.e. JaMarcus Russell, Michael Vick, or a Vince Young, or even a guy in this draft, i.e. Joe Flacco. people are generally wowed by the physical gifts. This guy doesn't have any GREAT physical gifts. Everything else though, IMO, is just what you want in a QB.
Here's a major problem I have...
If Matt Ryan was in last year's draft class, he would be the 3rd QB on the board, meaning he would have likely been drafted in the 2nd round (or in the final 5 to 8 picks of round 1). He's not as physically gifted as Russell or Quinn. So how could any team take Ryan in the top 5 in 2008 when, if he was in the 2007 draft class, he would be a very late 1st or early 2nd rounder?
Matty...
Not just in comparing Ryan to last year's QB's but go back a few years and compare him to the Big Ben-Manning-Rivers draft - he'd have been rated 4th behind all of those guys.
No matter how great a player is as, say a Guard, they will never be picked in the top 5. Conversely, a QB's value gets driven way behind it's true worth because the position is simply hard to fill - so a QB who is the 15th best player in the draft can easily end up in the top 5.
This draft class simply isn't as good in many ways, as last year's was but players still have to be picked in the top 10, etc - even if they aren't top 10 talent. Which is how I view Ryan - a non top 10 talent who will gets picked in the top 10 because of the the fact that the QB class of '08 is not very strong coming out.
Actually, i think the QB class is decent.
But there are several very good prospects that can likely end up being solid starters. It is a little different from a year in which you have 1 or 2 REALLY good guys, and then a bunch of career backups.
You still have Brohm, who some people still rate higher than Ryan. And then guys like Woodson and Flacco who can turn out to be very good, with the right coaching.
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 1, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
As I said...
We all talk about workout warriors getting placed to high above their actual production. People fall in love with things they can measure. I don't.
IMO, Ryan will end up being better than both Russell or Quinn.
yeah
Good write up Matty
Matt Ryan is just vastly overhyped I'm not saying he'll bust its just that he's not worth the no.1 overall pick.

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