RUMOR: Jason Taylor to be traded to Jaguars?

by Matty I on Mar 6, 2008 12:08 AM EST in News Comment 17 comments

Update [2008-3-6 0:8:3 by Matty I]: Some people have e-mailed me asking about the cap implications of trading Taylor. From what I can find, it seems as though Taylor is owed a prorated bonus of $2.02 million in both 2008 and 2009. So the Dolphins would take a $4.04 million cap hit by trading him. But considering his salary for 2008 is $7.5 million with a $500,000 bonus due, Miami would still be clearing space by trading him. And if you're looking for more on this potential trade, check out Chris's latest post over at Big Cat Country. Also note, I've reset the timestamp of this article to keep it as the first post. It was originally posted at 8:41 pm est. [end update]

And this Jason Taylor saga continues.

Yesterday, Taylor told ESPN's Kenny Mayne the following:

"I have no idea where that [story] started, how it started. People are looking for stories but I'm the wrong person to ask because Bill and [Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland] call the shots there and neither have spoken to me."

"I'm under contract, so until I am told otherwise I am a member of the Dolphins. The thing is, I haven't talked to anybody. Everyone is talking to everybody else about me but no one is talking to me."

However, with all this said, Pro Football Weekly believes that this isn't the case and that Taylor wants out of Miami:

Jason Taylor wants out of Miami and Bill Parcells isn't telling the truth. That's what one team insider told us regarding the saga in Miami. Since being hired to facilitate the Dolphins' football operations in December, Parcells has been conspicuously quiet in the public forum. So when he commented recently that Taylor will either be in Miami next season or retire, a few eyebrows were raised. But according to a source, Parcells was simply trying to delay a second wave of criticisms that he is purging the team of its long-time nucleus, criticisms that started when he released venerable but injury-prone MLB Zach Thomas last month.

Now, PFW says that they believe a possible return to Miami for Taylor could be 2nd and 4th round picks. But what they don't mention is where Taylor could land.

We've heard all along that the Vikings could make a move for Taylor. We've also heard the Packers could. And now that they will get some more cap space following Brett Favre's retirement, maybe Green Bay will make a run.

But I've been told by a rather trustworthy source that the Jacksonville Jaguars are very much involved in talks with the Dolphins about Jason Taylor. In fact, a move could be made by the Jaguars sooner rather than later.

Right now, based on what I'm hearing, I'd go as far as saying the Jaguars are the front-runners for Jason Taylor. So if you want to check up on the Jaguars side of things, head over to Big Cat Country.

Comments

The 10.4 million

dollar contract might be a problem for some of these teams, AND Jason.

1. Would a team take his contract?

If not,

2. Would Jason be willing to renegotiate his contract?

Wow! This is some serious chit. I just can't believe the team will trade him....

by Alpha6 on Mar 5, 2008 9:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

this sux...

I hate the idea of them jerking JT around, even if he needs to be traded.

and I would like to see him traded to a contender. I am not sure Jacksonville really qualifies.

by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2008 9:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I stand by my earlier comments...

JT has never been 'off' the market during any of this. Parcells was pissed, for lack of a better word, that the yahoo reporter wrote a story that explained what was going on.

If a good enough offer comes along, I really think the Fins will take it.

Chris, at the Jax site, has a good write-up. Naturally he thinks Jax should give a 3rd and 5th only but that's to be expected....if i were a jags fan i'd want to pay less, but as i'm a fins fan, i obviously want us to get more for JT. A 2nd and 4th sounds reasonable. We can get a pretty good OL prospect in the 2nd and get a player for depth at a variety of positions in the 4th.

And Jax is definitely a contender in my eyes. They dispatched the steelers several times last year, in Pittsburgh no less. They gave the pats a decent game before losing in that playoff game.

Make no mistake about it, everyone saw how the giants stopped the NFL's most profilic offense ever with a great pass rush. Never mind that the NE offensive coaches were badly outcoached. Everybody saw what happened and the hot items, the blueprint if you will, for the year are pass rushers, just like our own JT.

by Natalya on Mar 5, 2008 11:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Amen, Nat

I just hope whatever happens, happens quickly. JT deserves at least that. and i would take a 2nd and 4th no question... i would not, however, pull the trigger for a 3rd/5th combo... any deal for JT must start with at least a 2nd.

The Jayfiss Report ...one fan's rants.

by NumberSeven on Mar 5, 2008 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I still beleive

That taylor is the one who wants out and play for a contender. Staying in Miami and playing the last 3 years on a rebuilding team isnt someting he wants to do. I think he messed up and had his agent field some offers and place some rumors to get teams to call the finns about his availabilty. Parcells made it be known this is not the way you get traded. Jason backed off said the right things and now will let finns take control of the process. My opinion is if bill can get someone to overpay for taylor or get him another first round pick he wont rule it out. If he doesnt get a great deal then Jason stays. I beleive this will not be resolved until the first day of the draft. If jason is still on our roster after day 1 of the draft hes playing for us this year. All this is me thinking out loud. Lets see what happens.

by jvw on Mar 5, 2008 11:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Jax picks late

They have an awfully late second rounder, I'm not sure it's worth it.

by Offer Doll on Mar 6, 2008 3:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

exactly right

the jags 2nd round pick is almost a 3rd round pick. would much rather have the vikes or panthers 2nd rounder.

by smirish on Mar 6, 2008 8:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Its Telling To Me...

...that Jason Taylor never says "I want to stay in Miami."

by dab415217 on Mar 6, 2008 8:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Jags should give more

I believe that the jags want to make this deal happen but because the jags have late pics i would have to tell them there 2nd and there 3rd round pick for jason taylor.Ive heard that theve got a extra 3rd round pick so i realy wouldnt ming two 3rd round picks and a 4th round pick also that would be great.We need the most pics we can get and we already got to 2nd rounders it well be great if we can do the same with 3rd rounders for are team............................

by lionel on Mar 6, 2008 8:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

On the Jags' post -

What would it cost:
If rumor holds, a second and 4th round pick will get the job done. I think a second round pick is too much, especially with a second pick. Jacksonville has hit gold with their last several 2nd round picks, trading that seems short sighted. Though, we do have a ton of ammunition for moving around in the draft.

Let's say the Jaguars do give up their 2nd (58th) and 4th (121) for Taylor. The Jaguars have two 3rd round pics (72 and 89). Bunching the two picks together and using the Draft Value Chart as a guide, that gives us a value equal to about 375, which if we can find a partner, puts us back in the 2nd round at about pick 51, higher than our original pick. We could then use our 5th round picks to re-enter the 4th round or possibly even the 3rd, depending on the partner.

SO YOU SEE DOLPHIN FANS - these people in Jacksonville seem to have it all figured out. They're not concerned about losing their 2nd because they HAVE TWO 3rd round picks. I'd take a 2nd AND a 3rd. Best offer. This is a business after all. No hard feelings. Good luck.

by Cutie on Mar 6, 2008 11:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Except that...

to the best of my knowledge, the blog 'people' in Jax nor the blog 'people' here, including all of us, will have a grand total of zero say in what happens.

So as far as I'm concerned, the jax bloggers can say they'll give a 7th rounder and we here at this blog can say we want 3 first rounders.

It only matters what Bill & the Jax GM think.

by Natalya on Mar 6, 2008 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I totally agree with you.

It doesn't matter what we want. I browse through all the mocks and these people are crazy. They "ask" each other, "What do you think of this player?" What difference does it matter what they think? Like they're all experts. I agree with you, Natalya. I just can't wait until April 27th, (end of 1st day) so all these rumors and talks end.

by Cutie on Mar 6, 2008 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

For sure...

it is banter and talk mostly for our own benefit. It definitely can be fun and amusing. Besides, it sure breaks up the monotony of the work day.

A JT trade makes sense and something tells me it is more likely to happen than not.

by Natalya on Mar 6, 2008 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

lmao

get off the crack pipe. if you have it so figured out...then i guess you wouldn't be needing to trade for taylor now would you???? I put together a piece on another message board that details the picks over the last 25 years at pick 58. The success rate in the late second round is not good. At 58. there were essentially 2. thats right 2 players that actually contributed for the team that drafted them for any period of time. The success rate for the pick is 8%. I don't care what the deal with JT is. I would take a guy we know is good for 15 sacks (as long as our defense is any good). One year removed from being THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE GAME. Than your stupid 8%. Keep your dumb ass pick, and kiss my ass! Pony up the first rounder if you are so good in the second round. I would rather Jason Taylor were simply released and available to the highest bidder...then your garbage 2nd. Then lets see what the guy is worth..... BETS??????

I BET ITS MORE THAN CALVIN PACE!!!!

by afishfan on Mar 6, 2008 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Also on the Jags post!

They want a DE for the #1 but cannot find one. So they can trade the 1 and throw in one of the extra 5s. They get the top DE in the game and can use the 2s for the OLine they need!

A 1 and a 5!

Too young to remember 72...not old enough to forget about ever other year since!

by JGray on Mar 6, 2008 11:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Keep JT!

I agree with afishfan! JT is too solid to just give away. He still has at least 3 good years left in him. And if he saw what happened with Strahan this past year, he still has time to have success with the Dolphins. JT and we know he will be in better than shape, (and better teeth), than Strahan was this year....at the same stage of career!

If you get rid of him, nothing less than a #1 pick...NOTHING!

Too young to remember 72...not old enough to forget about ever other year since!

by JGray on Mar 6, 2008 2:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

No Way!!!!

I still feel that Jason Taylor is worth a 1st round pick. I don't care what other people think this is an MVP defensive player of the year, and a 10 plus sack a year player, and will improve a defence by 20% to 25% this is why we shouldn't settle for anything less, if he doesn't like it then retire or play out your contract! I'm sorry that this might upset fans but I'm thinking of the team in a future sence and alittle bit of a financial sence, a second and fourth round pick doesn't give us a garanteed player(s), Taylor is a garanteed player.

If it ain't Miami Dolphins it's Crap!!!

by bigbillshater on Mar 6, 2008 4:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs