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MATT RYAN TO DOLPHINS?
As first pointed out by "Natalya" as a comment in this diary, Matt Mosley writes the following in his Hashmarks blog on ESPN.com:

I have Miami choosing Virginia defensive end Chris Long right now, but Boston College quarterback Matt Ryan is still a strong possibility. I think Ryan has the intangibles that Parcells is looking for, and it wouldn't be the first time the former head coach drafted a quarterback No. 1 overall (Drew Bledsoe).

I'm told that Parcells has spent hours pouring over tape of Ryan and that he and GM Jeff Ireland have talked to pretty much anyone who's been associated with him. If the Dolphins can reach an agreement with Ryan before the draft, I think they take him. If not, they'll stick with Long.

First, let's say this.  Mosley was a long time Cowboys beat reporter, so he is familiar with Bill Parcells, Jeff Ireland, and Tony Sparano.  

However, Mosley began this entry by saying that the Dolphins are "the most tight-lipped organization in football right now."  If that is the case, how in the world would Mosley himself know that the Dolphins will draft Matt Ryan if they can sign him to a deal before the draft?

And let's not forget the fact that drafting a player because Miami can sign him to a deal early really isn't the best way to select a player.  If that's the lone criteria that separates Ryan and Chris Long in Miami's eyes, then I'd really question this front office's decision making.  But I highly doubt that "signability" is going to be a deciding factor in all this.

To me, this whole thing just stinks of being a smokescreen.  And if it is (as I think it is), it's becoming one of the most elaborate smokescreens I can remember.

And one last thing about this, Adam Schefter said on Tuesday's edition of Total Access that he still thinks the pick will be Chris Long and points out that Parcells' last 6 1st round picks have all been on the defensive side of the ball.  Again, it's just more speculation.  But I do trust Schefter more than Mosley.

GLENN DORSEY STILL IN MIX?
I was reading a recent blog post by Omar Kelly, who does an excellent job for the Sun-Sentinel and there was one thing that really caught my attention:

And for the record, don't think LSU's Glenn Dorsey is out of the picture for the No. 1 spot because of the addition of Jason Ferguson and Randy Starks. The Dolphins have done a great deal of research on Dorsey's background and health issues I'm told, and will be attending LSU's Pro Day this week.

And since LSU's pro day was yesterday, let's quickly touch on Dorsey's results.  He weighed in at 6'1, 297.  Again, that's too small for a 3-4 nose tackle.  He ran the 40 in 5.14, which isn't bad at all for a defensive tackle.  He also benched 225 pounds 27 times, which isn't bad but also isn't overly impressive.  I think the thing I take away from all the numbers from his pro day is that nothing really jumped out at me enough to convince me that he should go #1 overall.  Also, he'd have to move to defensive end in a 3-4 kind of like a Vonnie Holliday type player.  I'm not sure that it's worth taking a risk on a player like this with injury risks with the #1 overall pick.

But you tell me.  Am I wrong here or would you prefer the Dolphins not to take Dorsey?

FINS MEETING PRIVATELY WITH TOP PROSPECTS
Here's an interesting little nugget that comes to us courtesy of Barry Jackson:

Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland, coach Tony Sparano and defensive coordinator Paul Pasqualoni met with defensive end Chris Long for more than two hours on the Virginia campus Tuesday. Ireland and Sparano led a group that met with quarterback Matt Ryan on Monday at Boston College. The Dolphins will meet with offensive tackle Jake Long in Ann Arbor, Mich., on Wednesday. All three remain options for the No. 1 pick.

Noticeably absent from this list of private meetings is Vernon Gholston.  Though I wouldn't read too much into that, as there's still plenty of time to meet.  

One thing I began pondering, though, when reading this is if the Dolphins will open negotiations with all 3 of these above guys (and even others like Gholston or Dorsey) in the week prior to the draft.  After all, it wouldn't hurt to reach deals "in principle" with all the guys the Dolphins are looking at just to avoid a holdout of any kind.  Reaching a deal with Matt Ryan would also serve as yet another way to thicken the smokescreen the Dolphins may be creating.

With all this said, I think over the next 3 weeks, we are going to get a much better feel for who the Dolphins will take #1 overall.  Until then, though, let's just all enjoy the ride.  Because this is the first time in a long time that the Dolphins are the center of attention in the NFL world.

Thoughts?

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Right on.
As a die-hard SEC guy, I've watched Glenn Dorsey in a ton of games. Most of the time, this would translate into a tirade of how great and underrated he still is and how terrible it is that his draft stock is dropping like a rock.

But, no, that's not the case. Fact of the matter is, Dorsey is an average prospect. He excelled in the LSU defense because he was pretty much given the opportunity to pin his ears back on nearly every play, and was surrounded by a very strong defense that had few weak points.

Playing against LSU, you always knew that you would be facing an awesome front seven that liked to blitz a lot because they could trust their secondary to get the job done. If Dorsey was really as good as some people think he is, he should've had a lot better (aka inflated) stats then he did.

His workout numbers say it all. Average.

by ratenxs on Mar 27, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Don't underestimate...
...the thought in Matt Ryan's mind about the possibility of dropping to #8 being the motivating factor to him agreeing to the parameters of a contract before the draft. Afterall, he'd still come out ahead by agreeing to take a few million less to be the #1 overall pick than to drop all the way to #8. Even though I doubt he'd drop any further than #8, there also may be visions of a Brady Quinn drop dancing around in his brain.

Ryan's my guy, even though I'll be happy with any of the top players, the more his name pops up, smokescreen or not, makes me happy.

by dab415217 on Mar 27, 2008 12:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Explain
I really don't see why Matt Ryan is "THE guy"... He really doesn't blow me away, and I think we could get a better deal if Brohm falls to us in the 2nd round.  But, could you explain to me why you and some other people on here are so sold on him?  I really want to know, and I am not being sarcastic.
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by JDPhinFan on Mar 27, 2008 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Either Long...
I would be more than happy with Chris or Jake Long at #1. Gholston would be a bit like the Texans taking Mario Williams based on his measurables, which can be a bit risky. I would like to see Beck with a year under his belt and a decent line with Jake Long at LT before writing him off.

I love the fact that picking between Ryan, J.Long, and C.Long; we're looking at good character guys who are hardworking and love football. It's good we don't have to look at nut jobs like J.Russell, K.Winslow, and Pacman who don't seem to have priorities straight.

by nicholasriehl on Mar 27, 2008 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

QB
Flacko at 32nd pick

by dolfan2040 on Mar 27, 2008 5:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

agree..
.. I agree that signability won't influence who we select, and I definitely think all this interest in Matt Ryan is a smokescreen, but we may also be getting familiar with Ryan in order to compare him to the other QB prospects. I actually hope we can move the pick because we need help all over the place, but if not, the pick has be a Long.  

As far as all the interviews, is it not normal to meet with more prospects than just a select few?  If we really are able to slide down, shouldn't we familiarize ourselves with guys who will be available wherever we move down to? Honestly I wouldn't put too much stock in who we interview at this point.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 27, 2008 12:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely...
teams meet with some prospects they probably have zero chance of getting. For example, Love Smith (Bears HC) and some of his staff recently had dinner/meeting(s) with McFadden.

Anyone think McFadden is still available at #14 or so?

Not a chance, but the bears still met with him. Just as Carolina is meeting with Ryan even though he'll be gone before they pick.

by Natalya on Mar 27, 2008 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't agree
I think this is the first time I don't agree with something that Matty wrote. Given the holdouts of top picks in the last few years, IF (and that's a  BIG IF) the Phins have more than one player targeted for the #1 pick, I think they should pick whoever agrees to a contract first. Remember, there's a drop from 1st to 2nd, 3rd or lower, and all the players being considered know that they could be drafted anywhere from 1st to 6th. Thus, this year there is an incentive on the players side to reach a pre-draft deal.

by Green Phin on Mar 27, 2008 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Good point...
there's no use projecting a kid to be drafted #1 overall (especially if he is a QB) and hope to have him ready for training camp, if you can't agree to a contract.

We all saw what happened with the 2 QB's picked in the first round last year....no deal was in place, both held out, and both then lost any chance of competing for the starting job - resulting in them being backups basically for the whole year.

by Natalya on Mar 27, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

No Holdout
I agree that a holdout would be a bigtime problem if we can't get the number 1 pick into camp on time, but from everything I've heard and seen on the 2 Longs, neither of them will hold out unless our offer is way off base.  And I really think that whoever we decide we want is who the pick will be. Parcells won't let a kid and a contract demand decide which direction we go in the draft.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 27, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow Matty never fails to surprise me with his hate
even when signs point to Matt Ryan u never fail to look at with a clogged mind of bias against him!  dude, why dont u see Chris Long as being a smokescreen for STL?  or Jake Long being a smokescreen with STL?  Dude, it is pretty obvious man that if BP/JI have spent "THAT" much time disecting Ryan it is because they really "ARE" considering taking him?!  Hello? Mcfly?

by mred on Mar 27, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

lol
you're in for a real shock come draft day then if you really think Matt Ryan is the pick.

by Matty I on Mar 27, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

not just "considering"....
what the heck?? ...quit soft peddling it man!  you KNOW the phins are gonna draft Ryan!  Right?  So say it like you mean it!

by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 27, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course, or course...
what would you expect from a talking horse?

;)

by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 27, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Playing devil's advocate here
Matty I you say:

However, Mosley began this entry by saying that the Dolphins are "the most tight-lipped organization in football right now."  If that is the case, how in the world would Mosley himself know that the Dolphins will draft Matt Ryan if they can sign him to a deal before the draft?

Ok, that is true. But you have said in the past:

I won't say I'm 100% sure...

...but I would be shocked if they draft Ryan.

And this isn't just based on my opinion, either.

(I'll leave it at that)

by Matty I on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 03:31:58 PM EDT

Please share.

"It all starts with the Dolphins," an executive with another team said Sunday, "and not a single person here has any idea what they're going to do."

by Neo on Mar 30, 2008 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

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