The Pulse of Fin Fans
by Matty I on Dec 2, 2008 3:52 PM EST
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PrintWelcome to the first of what I hope to be a reoccurring feature. And it's very simple. Each week (hopefully - if I remember), I will ask all of you Dolphin fans a question about a hot topic that relates to our beloved Dolphins. And I'll BS for a little while and then close the post with a poll - taking the pulse of Dolphin fans everywhere. And because of how wide-reaching this community is - with readers all across the country and all across the globe - it should lead to some interesting results.
This week, the question is simple: In 4 weeks, what will the Dolphins record be - and will it be good enough for a playoff birth?
And to make things easier, I'm going to make the assumption that a 9-7 record is not good enough for even a wild card birth into the postseason - which is almost certain to be true.
We all know the remaining games and we all know how the Dolphins haven't been as sharp as we'd all like these past 4 weeks. But even still, CBS Sports' Clark Judge is picking the Dolphins to win the division - perhaps the only national media personality who has done so. He says:
The smart money is on the Jets, but I don't trust them in their two West Coast games. They're 0-2 there this season, and it wouldn't surprise me if they struggled with either San Francisco or Seattle. Maybe both.
Key game: Miami at N.Y. Jets, Dec. 28.
Advantage: Miami. Look at the schedule: Its next three games are at Buffalo, home to San Francisco and at Kansas City. The Jets counter with road games in San Francisco and Seattle and a home date with Buffalo, a seemingly cozy itinerary. But be advised: Those cross-country trips can be hazardous.
So what do you all say? Vote in the poll and then tell us why below...
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I voted 10-6 but.....
missing the playoffs. The Fins struggle when they’re expected to win, and certainly they will be expected to win a lot down the home stretch, so don’t expect any of these last four games to be a cake walk. Here’s what were facing down the strecth: at Toronto and New York where it will be cold and at Kansas City where it will be loud and windy.
I like how efficient our passing game is, I love our running game, and our D-line is OK. It’s the secondary that worries me. Winning in the NFL isn’t easy, and one slip-up in one game is all it takes. Look at how costly that penalty by Ndukwe was in the Rams game, but it could have been worse.
There’s just no room for error.
Seriously?
Well Toronto won't be cold...
…as the roof will be closed at the Sky Dome (or whatever they are calling it these days). But I agree that the Fins have struggled, especially recently. Going 4-0 or even 3-1 is not going to be easy. It’s really not.
though i've heard...
they’re considering opening the dome because Buffalo wants the weather to play a factor, as it would at home. but they should have it closed. you’re not making all these people in Toronto who don’t really have a vested interest in the game sit out in the blistering cold for 4 hours. you gotta look out for your constituents.
by BULLieving in Miami on Dec 2, 2008 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
The Bills don't have a say in the matter
because nobody involved with the NFL or their organization owns the dome. It’s not built to be open in bad weather. There’s drainage issues and all that, and it’s already been said by people who run that stadium that the roof will be closed because of the weather.
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 2, 2008 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
???
what? lol
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 2, 2008 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
lol
was not expecting that one haha
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 2, 2008 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
yes and no
first off Rogers communications or T Rodgers (RIP) owns/owned the stadium and since they have a contract with both the NFL and the Bills to put on football in the dome, i’d have to say that the NFL does have some involvement…
that said the stadium does have some drainage issues, but toronto being north of the lake doesn’t get the same amount of snow/rain as say buffalo and the ralph. So that really isn’t the issue… So they certainly could open the roof if it wasn’t pouring out or had heavy snow (which isn’t likely) and get the advantage of the cold…
Now the fact that they seal the retractable roof for the winter and then would have to go through the time and expense of resealing it and on top of that making people who paid a lot of money ($500 per seat for some) and are expecting a nice warm dome vs sitting in ~30 degree weather for some perceive advantage (btw: the bison IOU’s haven’t played so well outside themselves lately) is likely the large issue at play here.
by W NY Fins Fan on Dec 3, 2008 2:54 AM EST up reply actions
If the Fins miss the post season by a game....
how much does that loss at Houston by one point in the final seconds suck?
If there’s five seconds I’d love for the Fins to be able to have back, it’s the end of that game where Schaub draws up the middle for the touchdown.
I wish I could rewind the clock and have Porter plant him in the dirt at the one yard line and end the game.
Seriously?
I´ve thought about that too but just think about some of the games with could have easily lost.
For instance that Seahawks last drive would have been a FG drive with most of the league´s teams and also Oakland that 4th&5. Finally that 3&20something against Denver up by 2 or 3 points …
What about the Jets loss
to start the season? Favre got lucky with that 4th down completion. They shouldn’t have won that game either.
But, we just need to take care of bsuiness. They breaks will even themselves out.
"The dolphin is one of the fastest and smartest creatures of the sea. Dolphins can attack and kill a shark or whale. Sailors say bad luck will come to anyone who harms one of them." - Joe Robbie, Oct 8, 1965 upon announcing the name of the new AFL Miami football team.
I have no idea
what is going to happen. honestly i can see the fins winning all 4 games, winning some of the 4 games, or even losing all of the 4 games. buffalo is always close, san fran is getting hot, kc puts up a lot of points and they have tony G, and at the Jets is gonna be tough.
im just going to hunker down and hope for the best, which would be 11-5 and a 2 seed (could happen if pitt adn balt lose enough games with their tough schedules)
i do think the jets and the pats are each going to lose 1 game out west each
yes, it's still know as the "SkyDome" to all of us living here.. few use the name "Rogers Center"
This game being in the dome is a HUGE bonus for us and is a great benefit for us not having to play in the frigid/hostile environment of “The Ralph”. I so enjoy the rivalry games between us and the Bills…this will add a new element to the rivalry….albeit, the fans of Buffalo aren’t too happy about THIS game being the one to be played in Canada, in the Skydome.
I really hope and think that we will win this game…almost certainly won’t be a blowout (bold prediction there, lol!) but this game is vital for our quest of the division title.. I also believe we can WIN OUT and go 11-5 which will win the division but I also believe that if we lose even one game, that we wont get either the division or a wildcard..it’s a very fine line but at least, for now, we control our own destiny! It won’t be easy but it’s certainly possible and this last quarter of the season will truly show what this team and it’s players/coaches are made of..
by dolphinsfan4life on Dec 2, 2008 5:16 PM EST reply actions
meadowlands
Who’s going to the meadowlands week 17 if we hold serve and the AFC East is really on the line?
I pick 10-6
East Champs…….I see all three afc east teams losing one more game. I see the Pats losing to Arizona, The Jets losing to one of the west coast teams were they will be 3000 miles away two out of the next 3 weeks. and I see us losing once hopefully to the only the 49ers if at all. If we lose to anyone else but San Fran we lose the tie breaker edge we have. But I will be rooting for 11-5 and a sweep of the last 4 games to remove any doubt on getting into the playoffs. What a boost this would be for this team to win the division and play in the tournament. We could be dangerous once we get in…..Good coaching, smart QB, talent at the RB position…..and a D that can stop the run and get after the QB and create turnovers…….we can be dangerous……
If I can get tickets at a good price and find someone to come along...I'll go!
New York is about a 7-8 hour drive for me…and if the season plays out that we have to win that game for the division/playoffs…that would basically make the game “a playoff game”, I’d love to go…but the damn Jets fans are RABID when it comes to visiting Dolphins fans…almost got killed the last time I was there all decked out with my Miami gear!
by dolphinsfan4life on Dec 2, 2008 5:24 PM EST reply actions
dude have u read this blog? dont go on a road trip with anyone in here!!
"This is one of the most competitive businesses there is . . . It's my life. It's my blood. It's how I'm measured."
---BILL PARCELLS
10-6 making the post season
I think thay CAN run the table, but they seem to be playing just good enough to win. The blow-out at AZ, and the meltdown against the Pats worries me. Not to mention the loss of Greg C and Justin S also concern me. I think we are in a very good position, but they definately need to find a way to get to the “next level” as the importance of these games grows with each week.
GO FINS GO!!!!!
What if I say I'm not like the other?
What if I say I'm not just another one of you plays?
You're the pretender
What if I say I will never surrender. --The Foos
GRIFFIN
I must say
Its pretty freaking disturbing how almost everyone on tv and online is picking he jets to win the division. Ive been sitting at home all day on both due to dead days here at A&M and the only person to talk about them (and it was only a few seconds) was Floyd Reese who said the Fins will win their division and are the biggest surprise of the season. I cannot believe a team that was 1-15 last year is getting no attention from anyone. I understand that Im biased but cmon. Not that I really care and in some ways im glad, but for us to be in the position of controlling our own destiny this late in the season and to still be behind the pats (who we beat worse) and the jets in terms of talk just isnt fair.
Heres to hoping we destroy Buffalo next week to get everyone to shut up about the other 3 and look at us. Cheers.
I think I was onto something
I wrote a post last week before the game against the Rams that the dolphins could win the division. In that post I mentioned about the difference in the schedules ect.. and how it plays in our favor and not the Jets or Patriots. I guess everyone needed last weekend to see that after such a tough loss against New England.
I do know one thing, it will be very difficult to win out even with the teams that we play. Yes the Bills might be without T.Edwards and then we play the 49ers at home and the the lowly Cheifs. The only problem is that the 49ers have woken up and are playing much better under Samuri Mike while anything can happen against a young team feeling better about themseleves each week like the Chiefs.
It is a possiblity but one week at a time. I will be cheering on the Dolphins in Toronto and my brother is becoming a phins fan for a day … can’t wait !!!!!!
Tough Road ahead
I’m going to stick to my 11-5 record i stated 3 weeks ago, but losing Camarillo and Smiley will make it much tougher. Here’s to the rest of the team picking up the slack and riding this horse into the playoffs…….GO PHINS!!!
I SAY...
if we win this game WE are in the drivers seat for the divison
the Jets will slip in one of those west ocast games…i feel it
San Fran at home\…tricky..but home i think we win again something like 20-18.
KC….i think we just beat them up,….they dont scare me at all
this Buffalo game is the biggest game of the season…bigger than the pats game. it might not feel like it to you guys…but its a fact….the Pats game was erased due to their loss last week….that was quick!
im loving it….im basking in it…….if we win the division……SEXY TIME!!!
"This is one of the most competitive businesses there is . . . It's my life. It's my blood. It's how I'm measured."
---BILL PARCELLS
Be glad of what you got, until you can get what you need
I’ve been reading on how peoples been down on the Dolphines, on how that was a ugly win, come on peoples ,what did you have to say last year. A win is a win no matter how you can get it. They didn’t even think the Dolphines was going to get as far a they did this year being that they are a new team finding them self and getting the feel of one another come on phins lets praise our team, because they have realty done well. The media has all ready doing a job on them . That’s our team lets stand beside them all the way,lets be the Dolphines Nation and be die hards. The Raiders are a Nation and let me tell you they are all the way for there team good times and bad they are comitted. Go Dolphines
fyi "Dolphins"...no "E"...ughh
"This is one of the most competitive businesses there is . . . It's my life. It's my blood. It's how I'm measured."
---BILL PARCELLS
9-7
we will win one of the games were supposed to lose and lose one of the games were supposed to win. split the last 4 go 2-2 to finish the year and go 9-7.
There's only 1 game we're supposed to lose
and that’s against the Jets. Guaranteed we’re favored against the other 3 teams.
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 2, 2008 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
actually Nicky
I was looking at the spreads for this weeks games and we are a 1 point dog to the Toronto Jills on Sunday..
I think that will swing
once all the bettors realize it won’t be a cold weather game.. and it might swing even further in our favor if it’s revealed that Losman will start.
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 3, 2008 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know
We don’t cover the spread when we are favored. Let’s hope we stay dogs….
"The dolphin is one of the fastest and smartest creatures of the sea. Dolphins can attack and kill a shark or whale. Sailors say bad luck will come to anyone who harms one of them." - Joe Robbie, Oct 8, 1965 upon announcing the name of the new AFL Miami football team.
we still win
covering the spread means nothing to me…
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 3, 2008 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
But, if it is a 1 point spread in our favor
That doens’t bode well to a win. If we can’t cover, we’re screwed ;)
"The dolphin is one of the fastest and smartest creatures of the sea. Dolphins can attack and kill a shark or whale. Sailors say bad luck will come to anyone who harms one of them." - Joe Robbie, Oct 8, 1965 upon announcing the name of the new AFL Miami football team.
10-6 baby
…with the next loss likely to the NY Jests. I do think Baltimore will fade down the stretch, and who knows what the deal with New England is, but I am weighing their season potential too.
If Miami gets in, it’ll be with “help.” Number 6 seed.
Hopefully we will win the damn division and i’ll regret these words.
"That's never going to heal if you don't stop picking"
Interesting Stats from Fox Sports Power Rankings:
The last team to win 10 games in a season one year after winning just one game was the 1963 Raiders from the ol’ AFL days. 45 years later, Miami has a real shot at performing the feat, but a lot rides on their two remaining division games against Buffalo this week and at the Jets in the season finale.
COOL STAT: In a stat Bill Parcells surely loves, the Dolphins have turned the ball over an NFL-low 10 times this season.
not related but a FYI via PTI
Saw this on Pardon the Interuption today, just thought it was cool for we who remember.
One of the best games in Dolphin history happened 23 years ago tonight when we beat the undefeated Bears at the Orange Bowl on MNF in 1985. Tried to find a video kinda like Matty put up for Thanksgiving, but I didn’t have any luck. Maybe someone else can post a link if there is one to be had. Enjoy the pleasant flashbacks and memories of that game if not! : )
Voted 10-6 Wildcard, just to make this post official
"You found that word today......and that word is Character"- Coach Sparano 11/9/08
10-6 wildcard
and.. new to the site, but will represent the dolphin pride from massachusetts
by el presidente 00 on Dec 2, 2008 11:16 PM EST reply actions
yes!
a non-masshole! welcome.. make sure you give it to the Patriots fans 24/7
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 2, 2008 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
haha thanks man
and yeah, i love reminding them of ronnies field day back in week 4… who cares about our loss to them few weeks back anyway?
by el presidente 00 on Dec 2, 2008 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
right
they tried to run the score up running late, and we STILL beat them by a bigger margin
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 2, 2008 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
The Patriots fans here in Amherst are actually not that bad.
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt
oh man.......a real bad one, but I must get this out
and torture the rest of you with it. If Patriot fans are in Amherst………wouldn’t that make them………….
Patty Herst?
"You found that word today......and that word is Character"- Coach Sparano 11/9/08
by HuskerDolphin on Dec 2, 2008 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
WELCOME!
Always good to get people from the red, white, and blue state to root for the aqua and coral…
"The dolphin is one of the fastest and smartest creatures of the sea. Dolphins can attack and kill a shark or whale. Sailors say bad luck will come to anyone who harms one of them." - Joe Robbie, Oct 8, 1965 upon announcing the name of the new AFL Miami football team.
gotta bleed aqua, even in mass
this may sound sketchy, but im not a molestor or anything haha,so dont interpret it as that— but besides florida, what states are some of the guys on here from? has there been a post or poll on here about ’fins fans around the country?
by el presidente 00 on Dec 3, 2008 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Hey el
I haven’t seen one yet. I suggested that it would be neat to have a world map in one of the margins that shows a dot whenever someone creates an account, but thats about it. Put one up if you want! I think we’ll be amazed how many states and even countries are represented in Dolphin Nation
"You found that word today......and that word is Character"- Coach Sparano 11/9/08
by HuskerDolphin on Dec 3, 2008 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
im new here so i really still dont know how to post or do much
but someone, give it a shot
by el presidente 00 on Dec 4, 2008 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
do it..........
just go to “New Fanpost” and put one up……its pretty easy
"You found that word today......and that word is Character"- Coach Sparano 11/9/08
by HuskerDolphin on Dec 4, 2008 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
alright husk
should i poll it with states or a big open forum?
by el presidente 00 on Dec 4, 2008 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
personally......I'd keep it simple
If you want to do something later, you’ll have the numbers. Just ask where are you from? City and State for the U.S. and City and Country for those outside the U.S.
I’ll rec’d it, and I’m sure we can get at least two others as well, so that way it stays on the rec’d board for you to get some good results.
Good Luck man!
"You found that word today......and that word is Character"- Coach Sparano 11/9/08
by HuskerDolphin on Dec 4, 2008 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Florida is home
Currently stationed in Texas
And loving life in Iraq
"The dolphin is one of the fastest and smartest creatures of the sea. Dolphins can attack and kill a shark or whale. Sailors say bad luck will come to anyone who harms one of them." - Joe Robbie, Oct 8, 1965 upon announcing the name of the new AFL Miami football team.
Wow
There’s not all that many of us.
"The dolphin is one of the fastest and smartest creatures of the sea. Dolphins can attack and kill a shark or whale. Sailors say bad luck will come to anyone who harms one of them." - Joe Robbie, Oct 8, 1965 upon announcing the name of the new AFL Miami football team.
forget that..
who voted 8-8?
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 2, 2008 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
I'm all for shock votes
but that is retarded…
my sleuth skills make me think it’s a pats fan
Winner of All Movie Quote Challenges
11-5... simply because we are flying under the radar
…and we have alot better team than anyone seems to give us credit for…call me an optimist but i see the Jets failing to address the west coast factor and letting us sneak into the playoffs.. i had kinda lost hope that we hadda chance but last weekend reminded me that anything is possible, so, ‘why not us?’
"I'm not near as deep and complicated as people think" ~Mike Tyson~
10-6 with a wildcard spot
bad feeling about that Bills game
"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"
-From the Unforgiven III off of Death Magnetic
i wouldnt call them a "phin fan" for that reason...
but, this seasons gone crazy enough, i think its only right to make playoffs
by el presidente 00 on Dec 3, 2008 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Just as a point of order...
I believe it is spelled b-E-rth when talking about a playoff berth.
:)
-LCFF
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