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One Day Later...

As we put a bow on Sunday's win over the Seahawks, let's just quickly touch on a number of things that are being talked about down in South Florida:

SERIOUSLY?  WE HAVE TO READ THINGS LIKE THIS?
OK.  I'm aware that the expectations of this particular season have changed a bit since training camp.  Back in July, we were all just hoping to see improvement in what was supposed to be a rebuilding year.

Yes, I get that now things have changed.  The Dolphins are 5-4 and just one game out of the division lead.  But can we not forget about where this team has come from since last year?  I think some journalists have forgotten this fact.  One of them, Edwin Pope, writes the following:

The Dolphins started gangbusters and finished with the touchdown they needed to nose out one of the worst teams in the National Football League.

That was good. Only they looked awful in between. They couldn't run, couldn't pass, couldn't block, couldn't tackle. The Seahawks -- the lowly Seahawks, for crying out loud -- were literally playing the Dolphins off their feet.

How quickly we forget that it was just last season when the Dolphins weren't just the Dolphins, but rather the "lowly Dolphins."  Complaining about a win - at this stage in the rebuilding process - is almost laughable.

Now I'll admit that I was one of those fans who thought the Dolphins would blow Seattle out of the water.  Yes, I did indeed "take the cheese."  But Sunday taught me a valuable lesson: this is still a team learning how to win.  So let's temper those expectations a bit and not complain about a win - no matter how ugly. 

After all, do they keep stats on how many of those wins in the standings are "ugly wins"?

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FINS MAKE SOME ROSTER MOVES
Less than 24 hours after knocking off the Seahawks, the front office was back at it - turning over some more rocks.

The Dolphins have brought back safety Courtney Bryan, who the Fins released back in August.  To make room, they cut safety Brannon Condren.  Condren was brought in to help on special teams - but clearly didn't help.  The idea here is that Bryan will bolster Miami's coverage units.  Hopefully the front office is right.

In a more intriguing move, the Dolphins have also signed WR Todd Lowber to their practice squad.  Why is this more intriguing?  Lowber is an immensely gifted athlete, but is very raw in terms of his football skills.

You see, Lowber (6'3, 205) was a basketball star at Stockton College (for 2 years) and Ramapo College (after transferring) - both in that great state of New Jersey.  And in 2006, Lowber was also the NCAA Division III National Champion in the high-jump.  So, like I said, he's a natural athlete.

But Lowber had never played football until 2007, when the Vikings signed him.  But Lowber was cut in August of '07 and signed to the Giants' practice squad.  He spent all of the '07 season on NY's practice squad, along with Brandon London, and earned a Super Bowl ring in the process.  London then spent 2008's training camp with the Cowboys, seeing action in 4 preseason games and catching 2 passes for 44 yards.  But Lowber was one of Dallas' final cuts and remained unsigned until the Dolphins snatched him up on Monday.

So he's very raw and inexperienced, but is an intriguing process.  It'll be interested to see how Todd develops between now and next year at training camp.

TIME TO LOCK-UP YEREMIAH
The Dolphins have a number of key free agents after this season.  But none are more important or more valuable than Yeremiah Bell - Miami's stud strong safety who is having a terrific season.  Consider the numbers: Bell ranks 10th in the NFL in tackles (2nd among safeties) with 71; ranks 2nd in the NFL with 3 forced fumbles; and ranks 10th among all safeties with 7 pass deflections - including some rather huge breakups like the one last week on Seattle 2-point conversion attempt and the one against the Chargers in the 4th quarter that prevented a potential 1st down on SD's final possession of the game.

With that said, it does seem like there are some talks going on between Bell's agent and the Dolphins.  But I think there could be some problems with this.  For instance, what's he worth and for how long?

Bell is in the midst of a one-year deal that pays him $1.4 million.  But he's proven that he's healthy, though injuries have always been a problem for Bell in the past.  He'll also be 31 years old in March.  So how long of a deal should Bell be offered and how much should the deal be worth?  Those are questions I've pondered but have been unable to really answer.

Hopefully, though, Jeff Ireland and company can find an answer that works for both Bell and the Dolphins - keeping the "play-making bullfrog" in Miami for at least a few more seasons.

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nice info

  Pope and others like him aren’t fans. They are just hired guns who’s purpose is too sell papers and/or advertising on the websites from which they come. I am kind of surprised that they are tearing us down so soon. Usually, and in the past, they love to do it when we have a great team that looks to be going deep into the playoffs. I really hate the media sometimes. I hope this blog isn’t considered “media”.
  I read about Bryan, and he’s produced somewhat in the past. But I had no idea about Lowber. If he’s a natural athlete, I can’t think of a better coaching staff to help develop this talent. As far as Bell…..for whom it tolls, it’d be great to get him signed with something that benefits both parties. He’s doing great for us now, and you’d hate to see that in another uniform.

"The odds are always against you no matter what your previous history is. You have to overcome the tendency to relax."- Tom Osborne

by HuskerDolphin on Nov 11, 2008 12:28 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

devils advocate...

only because i can understand why he would write this, ill provide some insight why i believe he would write that stupid shit. Coming into this week being 4-4 with wins over San Diego, New England and Denver, 3 elite preason teams in the AFC, it would seem that we should have blown out a bad Seattle team. And to be honest, without a few big drops from Seattle WRs, we would have lost. So we barely escaped with a win…

Pope is just trying to get a rise out of people not only to sell papers, but to provide some sort of level headiness. Keep in mind how everyone is only talking about how not only well make the playoffs but win the division. No one would rather see that happen than me, but for everyone’s expectations to be that right now is a little crazy. Were not that good, we have a young team that is not used to winning. I love this team, but they have let me down too many times in the past, so ill take being 5-4, im ecstatic about it, but i dont want us to get ahead of ourselves.

That being said, I honestly believe we should have killed Seattle, just like i believe we will murder Oakland. Delhomme threw 4 picks (which Pennington will not do) and they still came out with a win on the road. So we could and should be 6-4 with a chance to take the division from the Pats in 2 weeks. If that happens, I might just have to start getting my hopes up.

I mean at this point last year we were 0-9, so having 5 wins is absolutly amazing and if we didnt win another game this season, we could call it a success, however we know more wins are coming. Also, we play San Fran, and KC later this year, and if you guys watched the ending of those teams this week, it would appear those games would be fun to watch if your a dolphin fan.

You gotta hate to lose more than you want to win

by alwaysafan on Nov 11, 2008 12:55 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good grief!!!

How old is Pope anyways???He was writing down there when I grew up in the 305.

Shouldn’t we lock up Crowder or are they waiting for Maualuga???

We're talkin' about PRACTICE....practice!

by hotrod43 on Nov 11, 2008 1:07 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dont think....

That giving our record 5-4 and our remaining games that we will have a chance to draft Maualuga… that is atleast if every thing goes “according to plan”

by jwillis9 on Nov 11, 2008 7:10 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Miami Dolphins Press

Are more concerned with stirring up emotions then anything to do with the team.
The majority of them see this as a way to get themselves noticed by the national press.
I have learnt that you have to take everything said by them with a pinch of salt and wait until it is said by another two at least from other sources.

At the end of the day an ugly win is a win, which is the most important thing, last year in the final quarter when the seahawks came back, we would have rolled over and played dead and this would have been an ugly loss, I’ll take the ugly win any day.

by DickDevil on Nov 11, 2008 6:51 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even if

They did lock up crowder shouldnt they still draft Maualagua I mean we do have a 3-4 Defense so we would still need that 2nd LB I think it could be pretty good for us considering that there probably wont be any CB or WR worth taking at the spot we’re going to be drafting

by Miamiboi84 on Nov 11, 2008 7:03 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lowber!!

Yes! He is that guy from Hard-Knocks….he has special raw talent…looks the part for sure.

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by Rzayo24 on Nov 11, 2008 9:10 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pope is an idiot

The cardinals were supposed to hammer the niners last night too, at AZ. However those who stayed up late to watch the ending of a great Monday night game saw that the lowly niners gave the cards a run for the their money. this is the NFL Pope, there are no bad teams. Everyone has a chance to win every sunday.

by dlux2561 on Nov 11, 2008 9:17 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Pope was spot on...

..with his comments. Through good times and bad with the Dolphins he has always been the voice of reason, never getting too high or too low with the changing success of the team.

I think you fail to give him his due, as he did talk about both views, with quotes such as those by AJ Duhe.

I think many of you are being overly sensitive now about negative criticism about the Dolphins. You guys bitch and complain about what is being written about them, when it really means nothing at all in terms of wins and losses.

Lets be serious here, did anyone really think that was a great game played by the Dolphins? I didn’t. However, they managed to win. That is what is important.

by dab415217 on Nov 11, 2008 9:21 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ya, i read the article.

i tend to agree. Although he was really focused on the negative, he really didn’t say anything that, as fans, we were not already aware of.
He was pretty much correct, just very negative about acknowledging that the overall positive was that the Fins need this type of experience to grow into a stronger team.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Nov 11, 2008 12:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank Pope!!

But i already read your article, you don’t have to defend yourself ; )

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Nov 11, 2008 12:44 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Bell and Crowder Contracts

Bell – Lock him up if you can, but protect yourself against his constant injuries.

Crowder – He has played better as of late, but I am still of the mind that he is NOT a great, or even a very good MLB. If he’s looking for big money to come back, I say let him hit the market. If he comes back at Miami’s price, then great. If he’s looking to be paid a huge contract, I say let someone else overpay for him.

by dab415217 on Nov 11, 2008 9:24 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

also agree with both these perspectives.

bell is still an injury risk, and crowder is still hot and cold. definitely sign them, but protect the team from injury/lack of performance with lot of play based incentives.
If I had to prioritize, I would grab Bell before Crowder.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Nov 11, 2008 12:27 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Definetly Bell over Crowder!

BTW, i only saw him made 2 good plays, or may i say solo plays?

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Nov 11, 2008 12:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll take close wins...

over close losses any day. I hated all of our close losses last year. The “lowly” Seahawks have won 2 other times this year, so they are capable of winning (just like any other team in the NFL). The Seahawks have an decent coach with superbowl experience. Look at the facts, we had a bad game and still won. That’s it. . .we got a “W”. I quit reading the herald’s negativity 20 years ago. I think they are a bunch of NY/NJ re-treads anyway. Screw them, Matty, you shouldn’t even mention their crap. The best use for the Hearald’s sports section is catching shit under birdcages. Believe me, when Miami wins big, those F*cksticks will bitch about Miami running up the score. We are 5-4 ,enjoy it Dolfans.

Phatfinfan

by phatfinfan on Nov 11, 2008 9:57 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FAs

Unless Crowder and Bell want to break the bank, keep both of them. If I remember, Bell was testing the FA waters before last year and didn’t get many great offers, that will probably be different this time. Unless BP has an inside scoop on some big-time FAs, we might as well keep these two core members of the defense. Our Def. has the potential to be great, they need playing time together. We have had a pretty big change on Defense this year and the defense has wonsome games (Let’s not forget the Goal line stand against SD). Also, Andre Goodman has been playing like a stud. I am predicting a Goodman INT/TD against Oakland. Seattle picked on Will Allen, but didn’t try anything against Goodman.

Phatfinfan

by phatfinfan on Nov 11, 2008 10:14 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Todd Lowber was on Hard Knocks.

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y not if im wrong who will remember

by qbinfin on Apr 27, 2008 3:27 PM PDT

by DolfinPhan on Nov 11, 2008 11:59 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

great write up Matty

i don’t have much to add, save that a ‘tuff win’ sure is alot easier to overcome than a ‘tuff loss’ and i’ll take that any day

"I'm not near as deep and complicated as people think" ~Mike Tyson~

by Krab on Nov 11, 2008 2:39 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aaaaaamennnnnnn!

and that would have been a tuff loss. Knowing how my heart was racing in the final minutes of the fourth quarter, it would have really sucked.

"You found that word today......and that word is Character"- Coach Sparano 11/9/08

by HuskerDolphin on Nov 11, 2008 5:29 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no...but you can get a WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

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by finsxfactor on Nov 11, 2008 6:12 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yessir Yessir

I can understand news writers, they’re paid to make a story and give their opinions. Some are right some are ridiculous. What I hate is when supposed ‘fans’ jump on that “Oh we’re gonna blow it” or crap like that. Just root dammit, that’s as all our duty as fans requires.

The point you made about the Phins not so long ago being considered the lowly team is spot on. This is the NFL folks….a W is a W is a W.

Yeah Bell should be a lock, and I also would keep J Allen, he’s becoming a player.

All in all….we got more bang for the buck than most could ask for in a ‘re-building’ year.

And now we’re one loss by the Jets Thursday (please!), and hopefully one win over NE next week ,,,,from being in FIRST PLACE IN THE AFC EAST! WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

If there’s one thing I’ve learned in all my years as a Phins Fan it’s: No Expectations!

Just root baby. Just root!

by RVZ77 on Nov 11, 2008 5:13 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ooopss...

…add to that a W against the Raiders please with a cherry on top .

by RVZ77 on Nov 11, 2008 5:30 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AMEN!!

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Nov 12, 2008 10:02 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we need to resign Bell.

"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"

-From the Unforgiven III off of Death Magnetic

by Patssuck456 on Nov 11, 2008 8:51 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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