Huizenga may soon sell off 45% more of Dolphins to Ross
by Matty I on Oct 28, 2008 8:50 PM EDT
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We all have known for a while that Dolphins' majority owner Wayne Huizenga planned on selling, at some point, the remaining percentage of the team to partner and soon-to-be owner Stephen Ross. Apparently, this move could be closer than we all thought.
There are reports that Huizenga may actually sell off 90% of his remaining stake in the team - leaving Wayne with 5% of the team and making Ross the majority owner. Why so soon? Huizenga says it's because of the potential tax increase proposed by presidential nominee Barack Obama. And because NFL owners approved the potential sale of the team to Ross, the transaction can happen at any time. Should Obama win next week's presidential election, Huizenga could very well sell off all but a 5% stake in the team prior to January's swearing in of a new president. Says Huizenga:
"[Obama] wants to double the capital gains tax, or almost double it."
"If you do it this year or you do it next year, the difference is humongous because of the taxes."
The Obama campaign fired back, saying the tax increase would only be 33%. Regardless, though, I think that it's a shame any time politics influence any kind of sports decision.
Regardless, we all knew it would happen at some point over the next couple of years. And there really shouldn't be too much of an issue in terms of football operations. I highly doubt Stephen Ross would try to influence the decisions being made by Bill Parcells, Jeff Ireland, or any other personnel decision makers.
It would just be a sad ending to a 19+ year relationship.
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Thank God. Wayne is obviously in it for the money and thats it. The only reason he was crying after last years victory was because he could charge that much more money for advertisements if his team won a game. Good Riddance Wayne
by ziggystardust on Oct 28, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If this is it
and the last great thing he did was to upgrade Dolphins Stadium without holding the city of Miami hostage via tax’s, and that he brought in Parcells, Ireland and company, then thanks.
"When we win, we're humble" Coach Sparano
by HuskerDolphin on Oct 28, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I personally like Wayne, he is not afraid to spend money, that is what a good owner does lol
Obama is a pud
by cbdolphin on Oct 28, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ross has more money
and he said he wouldnt be afraid to spend either so i doubt it makes a big diff
by badjah on Oct 28, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is good to know, is Ross any younger lol?
by cbdolphin on Oct 28, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he looks like a kebler elf
"Finsxfactor is my favorite person on ThePhinsider and if he ever left I would extremely sad." - Matty I
by finsxfactor on Oct 28, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HUSSEIN will fix it all
allrighty then….
by dolfanator on Oct 29, 2008 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh god
Dont tell me you actually belive that secret Muslim BS.
"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"
-From the Unforgiven III off of Death Magnetic
by Patssuck456 on Oct 31, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Taxes
Wasnt it taxes that caused the Robbies to sell the Dolphins, estate taxes if i remember correctly. Wayne H. → Garbage man turned Billionaire, good for him!!!
by Phintastic on Oct 28, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Alright then..
What about Bill P? Anyone remember the original deal if there was one. Wayne supposedly would not sell the Dolphins while Bill P was here. Just alittle concerned here.
by Jersquall on Oct 28, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yea i remember that
i hope it doesnt change anything with him. we cant lose the tuna
by badjah on Oct 28, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
until we actually know anything
don’t worry until something happens bud. I think Bill P will stick around if he knows the foundation is sound. And it is. I think the reason BP said that was to make sure there wouldn’t be a new owner coming in telling him what to do when he was midstream in the rebuild. Why waste his time for one year? He would have went to Atlanta if that was the case.
"When we win, we're humble" Coach Sparano
by HuskerDolphin on Oct 28, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Parcells is seeing his work come to life
very early. He won’t abandon ship now, things have just gotten started.
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by qbinfin on Apr 27, 2008 3:27 PM PDT
by DolfinPhan on Oct 29, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
Wayne promised Bill Parcells that he would maintain >50% ownership of the organization through the life of the contract. This may void the contract between the two. The main reason was because Parcells felt comfortable with Wayne because they knew each other personally, and didnt want to deal w/ strangers. Hoepfully Ross & Parcells have warmed up to each other during his breif tenure and will stay.
by YatilGinnJr on Oct 29, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Info found when Ross first became partner lol he wanted the Jets..
Last year Forbes Magazine valued the Dolphins franchise at $942 million, with a revenue stream of about $215 million. The valuation makes Miami the 15th-priciest NFL franchise.
Ross was a minority partner with the New York Islanders, and was part of a group in 1990 that tried to bring baseball to Miami before Huizenga became founding owner of the Florida Marlins.
Ross also made an unsuccessful bid for the New York Jets in 1999.
“My interest and passion has strictly been football,” he said. “I was involved a little bit with hockey, but really my passion is football, and the only team I wanted to own was the Dolphins.”
Huizenga said it was time for another person to take control of the franchise, but said he and his family would continue to stay involved with the team.
“I will certainly be a part of this team, a partner in this team, until I die,” said the 70-year-old Huizenga. “After I die, my family will have the opportunity to continue owning a piece, so we will be a partner for a long time even after Steve becomes managing general partner.”
Huizenga bought the Dolphins from the heirs of team founder Joe Robbie for $138 million.
by Jersquall on Oct 28, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Awww...poor wittle rich ppl...
…now they have to help pay for the struggling masses and only have to give up one or two of their 50 summer and winter homes. Let’s have a pity party.
by RVZ77 on Oct 28, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't even get me started.
Because I don’t see how it’s fair that a man who built his own fortune through his own damn hard work now has to be penalized and pay a higher tax percentage. It’s penalizing hard work and success.
It would be the same as a company making a rule where their top 5% most successful commission salesmen have to give up some of their earnings so that the company can give handouts to those salesmen who struggle to make sales. Does that seem fair to you?
by Matty I on Oct 29, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well said
"When we win, we're humble" Coach Sparano
by HuskerDolphin on Oct 29, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh but you did start it with the article....
Built his own fortune? No….Wayne comes from money. He didn’t buy all those garbage companies and start Blockbuster with one garbage truck. No…he did what all rich people do: He used the wealth to aquire more.
This isn’t a ‘penalty’. This is a society where the rich have to start giving back, or this country is no better than any status based society that has come before. They are bitching about , what to the average WORKING MAN, is literally pennies.
So save me the ‘poor rich self made man’ in this case, cuz he aint. Not many are. The rich aren’t losing anything but a dollar out of 50 to …regular people. Now I ask you: If you had to give ONE dollar out of $50 for a stronger economy and a more even playing field, would you?
We The People have to make some socialist compromises wether you like it or not. We have Social Security. That’s a socialist concept. Ya gonna take away ya mum and dads SS check too? You gonna deny yours when it comes?
No I didn’t think so.
by RVZ77 on Oct 29, 2008 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leave your hands off my money
if you want to be communist there are countries you can go live in. Just keep your stinkin commie hands off trying to destroy the greatest country known to man. And why are we great? FREEDOM. What makes you think anyone is entitled to the fruits of someones hard labor? Oh and by the way im low middle class so im not rich. But if i get rich, ill give my money away to charity before i let the government confiscate it to " spread it around"
by miadolph1 on Oct 29, 2008 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not going to respond here...
…because this is not a good subject for a sports blog.
Let’s agree to disagree and move on.
GO DOLPHINS!!!!
by Matty I on Oct 29, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
I’m soooo happy we live in a society where the wealthiest 1% of the population controls 95% percent of the wealth. Especially because they all have worked so hard to get where they are, and the rest of us are just lazy slobs. And they do such a great job of keeping jobs here in America and maintaining the health of our economy.
Matty, here’s my reply to your example: it depends on the commission rate of that top 5% of salesman. In any model, there is only so much to go around, a finite amount. If the top 5% percent get 99% of commission paid and the other 95% is stuck fighting for the remaining 1, does that seem fair to you? What if the top 5 in general, had more resources to get to 99% commission, handicapping the competition, does that seems fair?
Do you may think my model is is ridiculous? It’s the exact model of economy.
Seriously?
by Daren on Oct 29, 2008 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your an Idiot.
Cream rises to the top. I guess we should be giving Patrick Cobbs and Jalen Parmalee more time at running back because it would be “fair”. After all if Ronnie and Ricky control 95% of the talent and resourses at running back then they obviously need to give up time to be “fair” to the others because after all if we are being “fair” then eveybody wins…except the team. Take your sociallist crap and go away.
by unklphinnie on Oct 30, 2008 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eat my ass
I’m talking about rich people paying higher taxes, not redistributing wealth.
Take your ignorant crap and go away.
Seriously?
by Daren on Oct 30, 2008 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So once again
Penalize the rich…
“First, the data. The top 5 percent (those making more than $153,542 – the group whose taxes Obama seeks to raise) pay 60 percent of all federal income taxes. The rich (aka the top 1 percent of income earners, those making more than $388,806 a year), according to the IRS, pay 40 percent of all federal income taxes. The top 1 percent’s taxes comprise 17 percent of the federal government’s revenue from all sources, including corporate taxes, excise taxes, social insurance and retirement receipts”
From the Orange County Register.
so if my simple math is correct that means that the TWO richest tax brackets in the country actually pay 77% of the taxes taken in by the government. But I guess we should tax them more cuz they are rich.
Good job you commie bastard!
by unklphinnie on Oct 30, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
STOP WITH THE POLITICS
ENOUGH ABOUT OBAMA AND MCCAIN!!
How about you vote, and he’ll vote, and I’ll vote, and everybody else will vote, and if you wanna argue about it, do it somewhere else. Nobody on this blog wants to hear about the top 1% and how much taxes they pay and how you feel about it. Voice your opinion on a ballot and shut up about it here. This is a Dolphins blog, not Anderson Cooper. You’ve been on this blog a while, I know you have a lot to contribute about our favorite football team. So do that. No More Politics on The Phinsider.
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 30, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't check your math....
but at least your using sound judgement and facts for your opinion. Kudos to you for that. But if the top 1% control 99% of the wealth and yet paid less than 77% of the tax reciepts, there’s an inbalance right there.
I’m not a commie. I’ve done four detachments to Iraq since ‘02. Don’t for one second question my loyalty.
What I think is my opinion, and yours is yours. I want a progressive tax. You want a flat tax. Big fucking deal. But when you sling diatribes it’s not about opinions, it escalates into a whole different ballgame. So next time keep your mouth in check.
Seriously?
by Daren on Oct 30, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok Ok Ok
No more Politics….I just get carried away…I hate politics…I cant stay calm and reasoned when I get into it…Nicky, apologies dude….and to everyone else…I read this blog everyday and dont get the chance to reply very often. Yes its opinion and fact and conjecture and passion all thrown into a pot and boiled with peanuts. Darren…dude thank you for your commitment to this country with your time in the shitty sandbox…I just wish we could have finished it the first time around when I was there in ’90/91.
As far as ole wayne being around or not…gotta tell ya I both loved and hated the guy and hope against hope that Ross will prove to be a passionate and professional owner who knows when to get involved and when not to. I would not be suprised to see him renegotiate with the Tuna and keep him around longer than anyone expected, for that matter wouldnt be surprised to see Tuna take his ball and move on. Lets hope that they talk enough to make informed decisions about the future of this Great Great Team and put us back on top where we belong!
by unklphinnie on Oct 31, 2008 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well said
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by qbinfin on Apr 27, 2008 3:27 PM PDT
by DolfinPhan on Oct 29, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doubling the tax would be a 100%
increase wouldn’t it? So 33% would not be nearly as much but you consider the level of cash pay out WOW that would equate to a ton of money.
I always felt that Huizenga forced out Shula, true or not I don’t know, but I’ve never really like the guy that much. We’ve really floudered with him as an owner. I see Parcells as his only positive move. Bring back Joe Roby!
by ATS16 on Oct 28, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that is correct
bad math by me. I’ll have to correct that.
by Matty I on Oct 29, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
taxes yuck
I really don’t care about H and his money, or Ross and his money. The only thing that matters to me out of this story is that if H sells the whole team to Ross, then Mr. Ross needs to keep his wallet open and his mouth shut.
As long as he writes the checks Parcells wants him to write, I’m cool with it.
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 29, 2008 8:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just the beginning of destruction
this is only 1/100th of the damage Obama will do to our country and it will be wonderful to see all the obamaites be the 1st people businesses get rid of because they will need to downsize. Do we want a goverment Of, By And For the people Or government that controls the people???? its as simple as that.
by miadolph1 on Oct 29, 2008 8:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
enough
who gives a shit? Let’s talk football.
by obiandandy on Oct 29, 2008 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed ..... everyone has their own views on these things
and no one is gonna agree on anything here save that were all dolphin fans lol.. so please, no political flaming guys k?
by Krab on Oct 29, 2008 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally agree
You can have a seperation of church and state, why can’t we have a seperation of football and politics here? I’m so sick of politics right now, its everywhere, on every channel in every format. The Phinsider is my “quiet time” from all of that. Just my opinion.
"When we win, we're humble" Coach Sparano
by HuskerDolphin on Oct 29, 2008 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
No more politics on this site. Let’s all agree to that.
P.S. I vote for Dan Marino.
by Matty I on Oct 29, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
I think I ended the political argument, see below lol
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 29, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love that post!!
McCain!!
"You are the people you hang out with"
by buckeyebill on Oct 29, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
go away
no politics on this blog.
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 29, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO MORE POLITICS
I’M HIJACKING THIS POST!!!!
GO AWAY GOVERNMENT!! VOTE FOR HOT CHICKS!!!
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 29, 2008 12:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
*drool*
I was all ready to rant about how Sarah Palin is a socialist because she takes money from rich oil companies and “spreads the wealth around” to Alaska residents… but then this photo just made me want to go jerk off. Wow. Thanks for sharing!
by ZIM on Oct 29, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes do that
jerk it, then calm down and lets talk Dolphins lol
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 29, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not trying to drum up any political convo's here but I wanted to verify something about the oil
I used to live in Alaska before I moved to Oregon and that has been going on long before Sarah Palin. Also, she is not taking from the rich and giving to the poor, but from what I understand is that the money the Alaskans receive each year is a dividend that comes from the interest that is accumalated from investing the money the state receives for the oil. They are a rich state that chooses to help their residents. I believe Texas doesn’t have any state taxes due to the fact of how much money they make from their oil and I am going to say that Texas would be the last place to turn socialist
When you take into account the cost of living in Alaska that 1000 dollars a year really isn’t making the poorer any richer.
by cbdolphin on Oct 29, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO MORE POLITICS
STARE AT THE HOT WOMAN
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 29, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone notice the size of her ring?
"When we win, we're humble" Coach Sparano
by HuskerDolphin on Oct 29, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, you are an old man
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by qbinfin on Apr 27, 2008 3:27 PM PDT
by DolfinPhan on Oct 29, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
i’m an old man and didn’t even know she had fingers until husky boy mentioned….
must be the start of BB season for the husky to get excited… I saw they are #2 behind NC
you old dog.
by W NY Fins Fan on Oct 30, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well done
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by qbinfin on Apr 27, 2008 3:27 PM PDT
by DolfinPhan on Oct 29, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh Adriana Lima
the hottest woman on planet earth
"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"
-From the Unforgiven III off of Death Magnetic
by Patssuck456 on Oct 31, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yessir
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Nov 2, 2008 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
VIDEO HIJACK!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTPFdn9uzj8
Marion Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQlPhDLNnYU
Ronnie Brown Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVNL77W02u4
Ted Ginn vs Bills Highlights
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 29, 2008 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
now that the politics have been stopped
can we talk about how Stephen Ross will affect the franchise. Positively or negatively? Will he be willing to open the wallet for key free agents such as Julius Peppers, Nnamdi Asomugha, Chris Gamble, or whoever else?
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 29, 2008 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
......like to stuff her ballot box
cough cough um uh…..Yea… I think he will. They just dropped a pretty penny on some major renovations to Dolphins Stadium and surrounding area, they are going to need to put butts in the seats. That means having a solid foundation (check), having a good staff (check) and building by going out and getting those players that are going to make this team great, not just good. It’ll be a great snowball effect ending up with a kick ass Miami Dolphin team on the field. We win, stands are filled, a new Miami Sound (as in solid) Machine is born. Vote for that…………..
"When we win, we're humble" Coach Sparano
by HuskerDolphin on Oct 29, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ross
I havent been able to find it yet but I read an article not too long ago about him and about how he seems to be in this not as much for the money but more for the fact that he has always wanted to own the dolphins. This has been his dream for a long time from what I gathered and he LOVED the move to get the tuna so I would imagine that he will do what it takes to keep both the tuna and the philosphy put forth. Interestingly enough that means only key signings mostly. Tuna doesnt have a track record of signing huge free agents (few notable exceptions) but bulding a strong base and from what I remember reading about Ross he believes the same and seems to be smart enough to not stick his nose into something that is already working.
by unklphinnie on Oct 30, 2008 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We had a chance at
Asante, that would have been interesting to see how good our d would be with him.
I don’t think he is doing that great in Philly though…
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by qbinfin on Apr 27, 2008 3:27 PM PDT
by DolfinPhan on Oct 29, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ehh
he’s a much better zone corner than he is in man to man, and I think a little overrated because of the 10 int season he had in NE. He’s not a shut-down guy, and I think he’s struggling a bit in the blitz heavy Jim Johnson scheme that relies on good cover-corners…
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 29, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not too sad to see Huizenga go
because I’m still sore about him selling the Marlins after the ‘97 World Series to someone who couldn’t afford to keep the team together.
by Saxonthebeach on Oct 29, 2008 2:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yah
that really grinded my gears as well.
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by qbinfin on Apr 27, 2008 3:27 PM PDT
by DolfinPhan on Oct 29, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Not Gonna Lie
I don’t feel pity for Wayne, if he really cared about the Dolphins — he wouldn’t be selling off the team to save money. Stephen Ross obviously cares more, if he’s willing to deal with this tax increase to own a team that he’s always wanted to be a part of. So, I’d rather take an owner who’s in it for the football, than an owner that’s in it for the money. Plus, I never liked Huizenga anyway…the guy actually wanted Jimmy Johnson, the coach that tried to bench our Lord and Savior, Dan Marino, for Damon Freakin’ Huard.
by rroan28 on Oct 29, 2008 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Be fair
First of all, Johnson was coming off a couple Super Bowl’s in Dallas and was the hottest coaching name out there at the time. H didn’t hire him with the knowledge that he would get in a power struggle with Marino, so don’t use that against him..
Secondly, would you rather have H staying out of the way and just spending his money, or Jerry Jones pushing coaches aside and trying to run the whole damn thing himself?
Obvioulsy there’s no pity for H, he’s filthy rich, and we may actually be better off with Ross, but he wasn’t a bad owner. He wasn’t a tightwad with the Dolphins, and he brought in guys who could run the show because he didn’t want to.
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 29, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're Right
I’m mostly clouded by hindsight bias there. I just never cared for Johnson (or Jones, for that matter. Only fitting that a prima donna owner bring in a bunch of egos like Owens and Williams).
I’m not advocating a schmuck like Jones take over, but I feel that Wayne’s lack of football knowledge kinda burned us in respect to the current mess we’re just now getting out of. The personnel that he’s brought on in the last few years, which is especially evident in the Mueller/Spielman years, weren’t right for the positions they were entrusted to. The ideal owner is one that has enough football knowledge to understand who to hire, and keeps an active interest in the team, but without being overbearing and bone-headed(See Jones, Jerry and Snyder, Dan).
True, I’m still a bit into hindsight there: after all…who really saw the disaster of the last four years coming before it happened?
Ah, hell, who am I kidding? I’m just a bitter jackass fan who as a kid grew up with Marino, Shula, and the Robbie family. I can’t help it.
by rroan28 on Oct 30, 2008 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Don’t worry, it’s hard to find an owner who knows football but doesn’t meddle in the day-to-day aspect of the team. It’s like one or the other. Personally, I’d rather have an owner who just spends money and roots the team on from a luxury box, than a guy like Jerry who tries to call plays in the 4th quarter and plays GM during the draft and FA.
You are correct that Mueller and Speilman were terrible and H should’ve never hired them. But getting Parcells? Genius. And if what I’m reading here about Ross is true, we should be in great shape. He sounds like he’s in it for the right reasons and wants a successful team, not a profit. I think we are in one of the best situations top to bottom in the league. Good ownership, good front office, good coaching staff, and the players are coming around. Hello Super Bowls.
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 30, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think everyone has valid points...but i agree with nicky primetime...read what he put...it makes sense
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btw how awesome is my sig?
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by finsxfactor on Oct 30, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
see ya and don't let the door hit you
in the a@@ on the way out…
politics aside and dropping the issue of fairness in wayne making a cool billion on the say of the franchise and only having to pay 12% or 18% capital gains tax… (btw: it was %60 under ronnie IIRC) vs paying income tax at %34….
but wayne was pretty much a terrible owner — not ford or brown or al davis bad but a horrible one none the less…
lets not forget he is the one who pushed shula out the door …. only the winningest coach in football… he did keep wanny for (i’ll be nice) 2 years too long… and he did hire Cammy and would have kept him for another 4+ years likely had the Tuna Phish not decided he wanted to run the phins… and all of that is before we get to what he did to ticket prices and club seating policy…
now on the plus side – he did stay out of football operations for better or worse (see the wanny era) and he has been willing to pay players…
so put me down as it could be worse but there is a lot of room for improvement.
by W NY Fins Fan on Oct 30, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Its penut butter jelly time
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