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More fallout from Sunday's loss in Houston

First off, a thanks goes out to "Little Nicky 21" for starting a very successful Monday Night Football game thread.  But I'll admit that scrolling through the comments was painful at times - proof that we do indeed have the best Dolphins fan community on the internet.

Moving along, we're now two days removed from Sunday's heartbreaking loss.  And there's plenty to talk about - both related and unrelated to the game in Houston.

Ronnie Brown should have taken a knee?  Really?
I can't believe some of the things I've read since Sunday's game about how Ronnie Brown should have taken a knee rather than going into the endzone for the touchdown that made the score 28-23.  These people claim that the Dolphins could have then ran down the clock, kicked a FG, and left Houston with under 30 seconds on the clock trailing by a point.  Some even compared it to Brian Westbrook's move a year or two ago when he broke free on a long run but went down at the one yard line so the Eagles could run the clock out.

The difference?  The Eagles were winning the game.  So Westbrook took a knee and then the Eagles simply sat on the ball to kill the rest of the time on the clock.  The Dolphins were losing.  That's a huge difference.  You never pass up an opportunity to score lead-changing points in hopes of running out the clock.  This isn't Madden NFL '09.  Get real.

So many things could have gone wrong.  The Dolphins could have botched a snap from center.  Our holder could have muffed the snap from center during the FG attempt - a la Tony Romo in the playoffs against Seattle, essentially sending Bill Parcells into head coaching retirement.  Or Miami's rookie kicker could have choked and missed the kick.  How angry would Dolphin fans be if that would have happened?

The bottom line here is that the offense did their job.  Unfortunately, the defense couldn't hold up their end of the bargain.  The fact of the matter is that if Yeremiah Bell finds a way to bat down that 4th & 10 pass to Andre Johnson, the Dolphins win.  So, as fans, let's stop coming up with these ridiculous theories, tip our caps to the Texans (after all, they made some big plays), and move on.

Remember The Cam Cam
I think the Dolphins two wins over good teams might have caused some fans to forget what this season was supposed to be about.  It's not about reaching the playoffs - this team isn't at that level just yet.  It's times like these that I want to ask you all to simply remember Cam Cam.

The 2007 season was a disaster and we all knew that it wouldn't be easy to fix this mess that Cam Cameron and Randy Mueller left here.  The 2008 season was meant to be one in which our supposed saviors (Parcells, Ireland, Sparano) would come in here and begin the process of turning this franchise around.

So rather than being disappointed in a tough loss, I think we should look at the positives.  The Miami Dolphins are a competitive football team again.  And it only took a month of regular season play for this to happen.  Just think where this team might be headed considering our saviors have come in and made this team competitive so damn quickly.  One more offseason could potentially be enough to make this team a legitimate playoff contender for years to come.  That's what we need to be focusing on.

Enjoy the ride and hope for the best.  But don't forget where this team came from.

Star-divide

John Beck on the trading block?
This has been a topic of discussion for a few days now.  Adam Schefter reported it last week on NFL Total Access.  And this week, he wrote about it on his blog.  Considering the source, I'll trust it to be true.

Then I came across this interesting idea courtesy of the Sun-Sentinel's Harvey Fialkov.  Considering the injury news about Tony Romo (he's out 4 to 5 weeks with a broken finger), might the Dolphins look to deal John Beck to the Cowboys?  In return, the Dolphins could ask for a wide receiver - like Miles Austin.

As much as I like John, I'd have to say that I really like this idea.  And it's not just because he went to Monmouth University - though that helps.  He's young (only 24), big (6'3), and has really progressed since being drafted back in 2006.  He only has 13 career receptions - 8 for 186 and 3 TDs this season - but he has a lot of potential.  Tony Sparano and company are familiar with him from their days in Dallas and Bill Parcells loves players from Jersey.

So I'm just saying...it would be a good match and a solid addition.

Your thoughts on any of this below...

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first sentence...2nd paragraph

you said
“Moving along, we’re how two days removed from Sunday’s heartbreaking loss.”

instead it should be

“Moving along, we’re now two days removed from Sunday’s heartbreaking loss.”

get it together

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 14, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

what has my life come to? I’m being corrected by the “X-man”

by Matty I on Oct 14, 2008 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 14, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sperm x

"Well said."
--Matty I (2008)

by Rzayo24 on Oct 14, 2008 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dont trade beck ...lol unless its for roy williams (detroit)

and a little side not:

when we were practicing for state championships (which we won)…we practiced at Monmouth university

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 14, 2008 12:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice

Monmouth’s campus is nice as hell. My gf went there (graduated same year as Miles Austin) so I spent a lot of time there when I was home from my school. It’s one of the nicest campuses I’ve seen in the northeast.

by Matty I on Oct 14, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i thought you were married...or your gf at the time?

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 14, 2008 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no no

I’m not married (I don’t think)…still have the same gf

by Matty I on Oct 14, 2008 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol really? i always thought you were

gotta pop the question soon

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 14, 2008 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

theres a mrs. matty i ?

is it natalya?

"Well said."
--Matty I (2008)

by Rzayo24 on Oct 14, 2008 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job.
-- Lou Holtz

by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 14, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol aleta?...or is aleta a guy..?

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 14, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A guy and married!!

I did pop the question ; )

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Oct 14, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 14, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea i remember going there to practice on that turf and then just playing in rutgers was just awesome...

first state championship my school had ever won

o i love it

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 14, 2008 12:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey Guys

I am a new member from Mexico City, don´t have much to say right now but hope to be joining a few discussions later on, specially the ones that don´t involve the word secondary every two lines. Well anyway nice to meet you all and let´s go get that 3rd W.

by MauMontaV5 on Oct 14, 2008 1:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

are u 9 yrs old?

sorry…u wouldnt get that joke yet. Welcome to the Nation. (Run!)

"Well said."
--Matty I (2008)

by Rzayo24 on Oct 14, 2008 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol get out while you still can...you'll end up like me and a few others...

up at like 2 o clock having random reunions and fat darrell talk…and then not having a day go completely good…unless you get a well said by matty

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 14, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol anymore

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 14, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Taking a knee and kicking a FG is certainly not a ridiculous idea

infact it’s an ultra conservative move that I’ve seen several NFL coaches do. It’s what Cam would have done and that’s all that you need to say about that, since we lost 6 or 7 games last year by 3 points or less. Hindsights 20/20. That being said i believe scoring the TD was the right move, the D held last week at the end of the SD game and you gotta show confidence in them to get the job done.

The problem with this team goes much deeper then Cam and Mueller and it’s unfair to state that since they were only here one year. Wanny and Saban traded away all our picks for …. alot of crap. Mueller at least got Samson S. and the Henne’s pick didn’t he?

I like the Beck trade it’s good for us and good for him. It’s obviously the FO is through with him.

by ATS16 on Oct 14, 2008 2:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

huh?

"Well said."
--Matty I (2008)

by Rzayo24 on Oct 14, 2008 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

as usual?

lol….are u mad at me ats16? if so im sorry…ur names sounds like a gun..i dont want beef lol

"Well said."
--Matty I (2008)

by Rzayo24 on Oct 14, 2008 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good one...who r u?

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 14, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

speaking of Cam Cam

guess who’s making his triumphant return to Miami this week, hahahahahahaha

by YatilGinnJr on Oct 14, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wonder who

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 14, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, ummm well..

Matty I, I kinda want to disagree with you about something to start some conversation but…..

I agree with everything you wrote. Well done.

Are you picking up what I'm putting down?

by Neo on Oct 14, 2008 5:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I will expand on this though

This year really shows what a awful job Cameron, Mueller, conditioning staff, coaching staff was doing last year. Rookie head coach bah bah bah, Cam Cam was REALLY stinking it up.

I’m taking your not still thinking he deserved another year just because he was a rookie HC. He was the worst coach in recent memory.

Kudos to the strength and conditioning staff as well. Huge difference from last year. I think our lack of injuries thus far (knock on wood) have gone under the radar. The Tuna said that was gonna be addressed and address it he did.

Are you picking up what I'm putting down?

by Neo on Oct 14, 2008 5:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody said it was gonna be easy

Heartbreaking loses suck, but then, in hindsight (which there seems to be a lot of after a loss), i’ll take this loss over a loss like the Patriots took. In fact, i’ll take both this loss and the Jets loss over both the Pats loses. Ours were close nailbiters, theirs were blowouts.

To say that a lot of teams would love to have 2 wins right now is a cliche – but we do have a solid future ahead as a franchise. Plus, if we win next week against the Ravens, this loss will be washed away.

What a difference a win makes!

by mikem1224 on Oct 14, 2008 6:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good read

I agree on the Ronnie knee issue….as I stated in my article. I can not believe that is an issue….my god. These are the same people asking why we didnt go for 2 at the end of the game……to go up 6 lol.

Who is CamCam? I dont know who this is you speak of. I am a robot. I erased that part of my memory im being told.

Mark this as the day Matty I broke up with John Beck. Its not you…its me duckie. That Austin guy looks like a star. I would trade Beck for any player on Dallas….really…anybody

"Well said."
--Matty I (2008)

by Rzayo24 on Oct 14, 2008 9:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Matty I didn't broke with Beck!!

He just need some DUCKir time and maybe pop the question!! ; )
About the trade, i’m all for it, even for Crayton(and he SUCKS)
About RB? He did the correct think!! Take the 6’s and then ask the D to bring the ball back. BTW, that is what they get pay for.
About Sparano, well, he DID make a rocky error went he went for a double coverage on the WR leaving the middle wide open for a QB sneak. Now, lets move on and KICK the ravens AS****

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Oct 14, 2008 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spielman, for the Crayton comment?

Tell me, outside Camarilo, who is better than Crayton at WR in Miami?, maybe Bess and he is what 4’11" ,maybe, WITH HILLS, he is 5’2" LOL. Our WR group suck even more than Crayton.

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Oct 14, 2008 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LIVE GAME THREAD LAST NIGHT

hahahaaha i knew u had to read all those matty……lol. im sorry.

"Well said."
--Matty I (2008)

by Rzayo24 on Oct 14, 2008 9:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol that was fun though

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 14, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matty, I agree with you 110%

Boy, I just HATE IT when I hear fro my fellow Dolphanatics “Aw MAN! We suck! And we were going to the play-offs!” My response is always the same: “Uhm… what the hell did you just say Mr. Duche-bag? We were 1-15 last year, this year is a REBUILDING year.” Why can’t people jsut temper their expectations. We still need corners. We still need receivers. We might possibly need linebackers as well! So why oh why do we start using the “p-word” when we still get two straight four games into the season? Sheesh!

…okay, breath… Breath…okay, sorry about that, that’s just my rant. Anyways, Matty, I agree with everything that you say. And I’m curious: have you heard or seen ANYTHING that hints to ANY interest in Roy Williams? What’s your take of that fantasy (for the moment) aquisition?

"How can you win a game if you can't even catch the ball?" -from Madden 2004, by John Madden, the master of the obvious

by Malachi V on Oct 14, 2008 10:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Malachi V, i understand your point..

of view, but to tell me that my point of view is ludicrous is worse than anything else. I balaive that the AFC is fill with midiocre teams, as well as the NFC. Any team can make it to the playoffs this year. We are 1 game behing the panties, so you are telling me the don’t have a shoot at the p;ayoffs. I know we are on rebuilding(it has been said here, like a zillion time daily), but on my book, mathematically and RIGHT NOW, we ARE on the race for a playoffs berth. Last year, went we were 0-6 i though we atill got a shoot at the playoffs. why not this year with a 2-3 record and to of the losses where at the bitter end. We are not rolling over and diying, we are fighting to the end and the coaching staff are doing all they can with what the have. Miracle happen my friend and HOPE is the last thing you loss. If you already give up on this season, that is great, but don’t come to my party with the losing mentallity of next year, cause right now is year 2008, NOT 2009. We might be great in 2009, but we could be a mediocre team in the playoffs THIS YEAR!!

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Oct 14, 2008 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO!!!

Aleta, I LOVE that line: “We could be a mediocre tram in the playoffs THIS YEAR!!!” That’s going to be my tag. And please don’t mistaken my not thinking of the play-offs as giving up hope. The truth is that I’m very focused right now on how the players are developing (or not developing, that’s for Ginn, Jr.). If we make the play-offs, that’s GREAT! But I’m not expecting it.

And to clarify: it’s not the fact that Dolphanatics are talking about play-offs already that gets me, it’s just that we win two games that we were not expecting to win, and all of a sudden we are the team to beat (in their eyes). I strongly believe that on any given Sunday, ANYTHING can happen, but there’s what’s possible, and then there’s what’s expected. And it’s our expectations that sometimes swell up to unreasonable proportions. So it gets to me when here we go, up against the Texans who a lot of the experts were saying were dangerous and would probably beat us, and then we lose and the Dolphanatics are trashing the team completely. We WERE NOT supposed to win that game, and yet we ALMOST did win that game, and that in itself is a victory for me (however bitter it was). So I WILL BE critical and disappointed if we lose against the Raiders, the Chiefs or the Rams, and I won’t be bent out of shape if we lose against the Bill (with Edwards) or the Broncos.

"How can you win a game if you can't even catch the ball?" -from Madden 2004, by John Madden, the master of the obvious

by Malachi V on Oct 14, 2008 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my take on Roy Williams...

…is that it is exactly what you said: a fantasy. I’d love for the Fins to make the move, but it’s just not going to happen.

by Matty I on Oct 14, 2008 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOOHOOO...kk matty make it happen...i know you have a few connections...get it done

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 14, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Roy Williams Cowboy

There´s nothing on NFL.com or cowboys.com yet but I was filling out the probowl ballot and Roy Williams appears as a cowboy.

by MauMontaV5 on Oct 14, 2008 10:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wrong one

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 14, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was actually talking about the cowboy´s one

just decided to bust out a few updates on some random players status, ill be back later on with Adrian Peterson.

by MauMontaV5 on Oct 14, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there's more then one Roy Williams in the NFL

Dallas’s Roy should be under Strong Safty not WR (If you’re referring to the Detroit WR)

by ATS16 on Oct 14, 2008 11:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and.......

that Roy Williams has been hurt.

"If you’re a giraffe, you’re a giraffe. If you’re a horse, you’re a horse."
Coach Sparano

by HuskerDolphin on Oct 14, 2008 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My B

Oh all right my bad, talking about WR´s, do you think it was a good move to get rid of Chris Chambers last season? he is an elite WR and we do have a lot of cap space this year. What do you think about Ricky Williams till now? I think he is a class act. mm what else I actually now realize trading jason was a good move. Whose jersey would you buy, Pennington, Ronnie or Porter?? What do you think about sunday´s week? P word?? Well if anybody else is bored out of this world at school or work feel free to start a conversation, feel free to throw baseball into the mix

by MauMontaV5 on Oct 14, 2008 11:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Matty always has his revenge

we make him read 600+ randomly pointless comments, he makes us read the words Cam Cam multiple times. I hate you Matty lol.

As far as the column, Matty, you’re right about Ronnie and kneeling at the one. There were quite a few people in agreement with you during the post-game thread because the smartest thing to do is to take the TD and then make them go score a TD. If we kick, then they can kick, and teams usually only need to go about 40 yards to get in FG range after a kick return. Take the TD, see if your D steps it up. By next year, I would expect the D to get a back-breaking pick to seal the deal in those kind of games.

Yes. Last year sucked. Thanks for bringing it up. Moving along…

October 14 2008 will forever go down as John Beck Breakup Day. Congrats Matty, I went through it in the preseason, just watch some Chad Henne highlights to help you get through. Miles Austin is an interesting player, but I doubt we can get him. If Dallas is looking to trade a WR, it’s most likely Crayton. Austin is supposedly untouchable right now (notice I said right now) unless the deal is crazy. JJones really likes him.

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job.
-- Lou Holtz

by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 14, 2008 11:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In the words of a great coach in the making....

Sparano said this in his post game comments….
(On if it’s easier to regroup from a loss after a couple of wins) – “I said it to the team last night. I said, ‘One of the reasons you feel like you do right now is because you have had some success.’ And I think that that’s important. The fact that we’ve won some ballgames and won some ballgames after we lost a few ballgames, I think gives us some confidence to understand that we can do this. We’ve already done it in the season. We played hard last night. We didn’t play well enough last night. That’ll be what we take out of that and we’ll move forward. I think we’ll get better this week. It will change the way we practice. It will change the way we practice. There will be some things we’ll do differently.”

This man knows how to learn from this kind of loss and motivate his team to get better. I have completely changed my mind about the coaching. I think we have a great one in coach Sparano

Jimbo

by Dolphinator on Oct 14, 2008 12:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good read......

We have to take in mind that he is learning this stuff too. He’ll make a few mistakes here and there, but thats all part of being a rookie coach in the NFL. He’s got a great mentor and is really taking advantage of this opportunity. I’m going to enjoy this year for what it is. Take the losses, take the “why didn’t we’s?”, and “we should have’s” knowing that next year and the years that follow are going to be worth all the moans and groans and liver damage.

The end will justify the means in Miami…….gauran damn tee it.

Semper Fidelis Tursiops Truncatus

by HuskerDolphin on Oct 14, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like that perspective HD

by OntheGo on Oct 14, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks man

Semper Fidelis Tursiops Truncatus

by HuskerDolphin on Oct 14, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

im proud of you husker...

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 14, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

omg and you call yourself a dolphins fan

its sparano

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 14, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I stand by my statements

about taking a knee. Unless your name is Matt Ryan and you’re playing against the Chicago Defense, its MUCH harder to get in field goal range in under 25 seconds and no time outs than it is to score a TD with 1:40 and 2 T.Os. You can calmly lead a drive down the field, and teams practice the 2 minute drill all the time. When you can’t stop the clock, you are forced to go out of bounds, and teams can play the sidelines.

The only possible argument you can make against this is that we’ll give up a huge return, which we did earlier in the game. That just shows a lack of confidence in your kicking game.

by YatilGinnJr on Oct 14, 2008 1:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

SP did gave up a TD

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)

by Aleta on Oct 14, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

anyway you go you can´t leave 1:45 seconds on the clock with two time outs to a team that has been destroying your defense all game. I was really surprised Sparano went for the TD so fast. In my opinion that was some poor game management.

by MauMontaV5 on Oct 14, 2008 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

scoring a TD is poor game management?

Aye!

All I’ll say is that if we stop them on 4th & 10 like we should have, then we aren’t even discussing this.

by Matty I on Oct 14, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you

but I think almost everyone around here agrees that we should have run out the clock a bit more or at least make them spend their time outs, i mean that was football coaching 101 I was watching the game with a guy that barely knows what the game is about and he was like whoa why would you score so quick. Giving them almost two minutes with those lethal weapons they had as receivers… i dont know. But yeah that 4th and 10 was ridiculous and that 4th and 2 without a single linebacker … a blind man could have seen that run coming.

by MauMontaV5 on Oct 14, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Yatil this is what you’re not understanding here. There’s NO GUARANTEE that you score. So let’s do this your way. Ronnie jukes Mario Williams out of his pants then walks to the 1, then falls down. 2nd down we botch the handoff, Houston recovers, we lose.
OR
2nd down, 3rd down, both times we get stuffed. The FG gets blocked and run back for a TD, we lose.
OR
It works according to plan, then they get a big runback, throw one 20 yard pass, and beat us with a FG.

Our D won the game for us in San Diego. They had numerous opportunities to end the game Sunday. Any one of those plays is made, and this isn’t an issue. You take the TD. It’s harder to score a TD to win than a FG, no matter the time difference. You can stand by your statement, but just know that it’s wrong. Scoring a TD is NEVER the wrong decision when you’re playing from behind.

OK.... so if the Jacksonville Jaguars are known as the "Jags" and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are known as the "Bucs," what does that make the Tennessee Titans?

by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 14, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not guarunteed

but the odds are extremely high of kicking what amounts to an extra point… somewhere in the 99 percent range. I’ll take those odds anyday over giving houston the ball with a decent shot to score, especially because we couldnt stop them on their last drive.

by YatilGinnJr on Oct 14, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you can say that...

but I felt uneasy when ronnie ran it in w/ 1:40 left, i’d much rather have the ball in our hands determining the game than theirs. I thought that at the time, not after the result.

by YatilGinnJr on Oct 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Offense

Sure the team put up 4 touchdowns but something has to be said about the fact that they had to punt what was it.. 7 times?

by drainu182 on Oct 14, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL @ Take a knee

Who says that shit?

I’m pissed that we didn’t go for it on 4th and 1 at midfield when we were only up by a point. WTF was that? What happened to the wildcat there? It’s like it was abandoned after it was doing so well.

by joel311 on Oct 14, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

glad u think its funny

agree w/ u on the multiple 4th n inches that w didnt go for. there are some academic studies done on forth n 1 situations and whether or not it is beneficial or not on the wrong side of the 50, and turns out its smarter to go for it. coaches wont do it because they want to dodge criticism if it doesn’t work out.

by YatilGinnJr on Oct 14, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2.5 point favorite against Baltimore

Yeah, we hadn´t been a point spread favorite for a while, let´s keep it going guys let´s keep rolling. Just got my Joey Porter jersey and hope I can fly over with my dad for next week´s game. Quick question, what part of the stadium is the better one to watch the game? sideline, endzone ??

by MauMontaV5 on Oct 14, 2008 5:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Matty, good post.

I understand why people are getting creative with the “take a knee, run out the clock” argument. It might have worked. And I must confess, I thought the same thing when Ronnie ran it in with a minute 45 left. I had been looking for the first down.

But I agree 100% with you for 3 reasons:
1) Noone knew that Ronnie was going to be able to score on that play. It opened up and he took it.
2) You have to take the points. Like you said Matty, the Fins were behind and had to have points to win. Any number of goofy things can happen in a game, and you take the points when you have the opportunity. Different story if the Fins are ahead by 1.
3) With 1:45 left, you HAVE to be able to trust your D to prevent a TD. The Texans could not win with a FG. 9 times out of 10, this will pay off. This time the Fins D didn’t get it done. But the Offense did their job.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 14, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was pissed,

But I’ve moved on. My Dolphin flag is waving above my ghosts, tombstones, and pumpkins. I’m ready ti kick some Raven ass. God I love Dolphin season, I love it that we are in every game(well maybe not the AZ massacre). Get me a cold Leinenkugel’s, turn on the plasma, and watch the wildcat run. Oh. . .good post Matty, Now talk more smack will ya?

Phatfinfan

by phatfinfan on Oct 14, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i cant wait to see the raven game, i wont be able to step away from the tv, the ravens are going down

by MDrb23 on Oct 14, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

guys dont worry ...im just waiting for joey porter to "accidently" tackle someone into cam cam

and john beck to sneak to the ravens sideline and then karate chop him in the neck

and like 15,000 more fans jump him after the game

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 14, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha

i wish i could see that

by MDrb23 on Oct 14, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

eh, its time to move on...

this was a great game….it came down to the last second.

there’s lots of teams with worse records than we have right now…

still a LOT of football left to play guys.

by afmo on Oct 14, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i love watching these kind of games but it heartbreaking when your team comes out on the wrong side of it

by MDrb23 on Oct 14, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha thats hilaarious i can just picture cam cam going down as a player flies into him i can’t wait for the raven game i believe we have a strong shot at winning this game. the texas game wa heart breaking and truely i dont even want to talk about it.

by MDrb23 on Oct 14, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Believe

Hey we got 5 of the next 6 games at home and the one we play away is at denver, in the cold weather where our style of game will be much more useful than theirs. We win 4 out of these 6 and we are looking at a playoff run. Believe and if you don´t just look at the Tampa Bay Rays, yeah that´s right.

by MauMontaV5 on Oct 14, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you forget though

 Denver is a cold weather team. Style or not, we don’t have a good history playing in the cold. I hope we’ve shaken that stigma and we are able to show up in any weather, at any time, and play Dolphin football. They have a good home crowd as well. Its going to be a good challenge.

Semper Fidelis Tursiops Truncatus

by HuskerDolphin on Oct 15, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gotta sustain long drives and keep their offense OFF the field..or we will get fucked up the arse

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 15, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It will be a hard game

If we are able to put some pressure on Cutler and stop the run as usual he is going to make lots of mistakes as he usually does, look against the Jags, a team with no heart whatsoever, I´ll take our guys any sunday. And then on offense as finsxfactor says, just got to sustain long drives passing short and running the crap out of that shity defense of theirs and we got ourselves a W playing away. I´ll even say this; we got a much more solid offense than they do, yeah that´s right, our running game is superior with ronnie the runner and Mr. Rick and don´t even get me started on QB play, just can´t say enough about Penny he is just a class act, on and off the field. But first lets take care of Baltimore or let me rephrase Baltiless.

by MauMontaV5 on Oct 15, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

About Ronnie

You are righ Matty, as Herm Edwards so famously said “You play to win the game, Hello? You play to win the game”

Attempting a FG is not trying to win the game, its trying not to lose.

"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"

-From the Unforgiven III off of Death Magnetic

by Patssuck456 on Oct 15, 2008 12:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm going Madden Telestrator on this one..

“Here’s a guy who knows his sh!t.”

OK.... so if the Jacksonville Jaguars are known as the "Jags" and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are known as the "Bucs," what does that make the Tennessee Titans?

by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 15, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO

"How can I blame you
When it's me I can't forgive?"

-From the Unforgiven III off of Death Magnetic

by Patssuck456 on Oct 18, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You had me at Hello

You made my day man jajajaj quoting without excluding the “Hello?” was priceless. Thanks

by MauMontaV5 on Oct 15, 2008 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok let me ask you guys this

ravens game this week it comes down to same scenario…what would you do?

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 15, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

totally different scenario

They would be going for a TD with under 2 minutes led by the worse rated Qb in the league, no it´s not Kitna, and against the 12th player there is no way the pull that off, not in my house, bitch.

by MauMontaV5 on Oct 15, 2008 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats what im talking bout mauglo

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job
-Nicky Primetime

by finsxfactor on Oct 15, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spilled milk

Taking a knee no… but going down at the one maybe…

Matty…

if ronnie picks up the first down without scoring, the fins win if the game if they can snap the ball to Penny 3x and then kick and extra point lenght field goal with zero time on the clock….. much better option than giving the ball back to houston with 1:40 left on the clock…

and to say that there are so many things that can go wrong, well if a pro team can’t take a knee 3x and kick and extra point lenght field goal, how can you expect them to win any week… are there 4 simpler things that they could do?

Now I wouldn’t expect any player, aside from mssr. westbrook being able to know/execute this in the midst of the game… but it IS something the coaching staff should have brought up once they had 1st down at the 12…
and I would have loved to have heard one of the (….) beat writers ask sparano about it though.

by W NY Fins Fan on Oct 16, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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