Another trade idea

by gafinfan on Jan 7, 2008 7:18 PM EST Comment 13 comments

First of all we need for Matt Ryan to have a killer senior bowl week and knock out combine/college day workout. For us to have any chance to trade down, which I think we all agree, is best for this team.He has to come thru so that some one in the top 5 thinks we will take that QB with the top pick. It is already going around that our front office is intrested in Matt Ryan which helps. It just might be better if Bryan Brohm was in this mix also.

It is known that Arthur Blank will move up (to get his guy) and pay the price to do so because he did before with Mike Vick.

Ok, now the Falcons get pick #4 (because of the coin toss) and trade up to our spot to take Matt. We get their first (#4), their 2nd (#35), and their 3rd (#68). We then trade the Falcons #4 pick to Dallas for their 2 first rounders and their 2nd in 09.

Now what we have is two first #20 and 30, 3 seconds #33 #35 and #50, and two thirds #65 and #68 which gives us 7 picks in the first 68 players picked plus an 2009 second round pick. After all said and done we will be about 300 points short but 3 picks this year and 1 pick in 09 ahead.

So what do you think?

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I think

the fantasy football season is over.

Just take long with the first pick and work on the OL, which will make next seasons starting QB that much better.

by W NY Fins Fan on Jan 7, 2008 8:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I agree

Take Long to go along with Satele who- finished the season with just two sacks surrendered and two penalties (one false start, one holding). Not bad when you consider that those stats are strikingly similar to those of NFC Pro Bowl starter Andre Gurode, who finished with 1½ sacks given up and two penalties (one false start, one holding) for the Dallas Cowboys. The AFC's representative, Indianapolis' Jeff Saturday, played at another level, allowing just a ½ sack and taking one holding penalty. Then again, Saturday is a nine-year veteran and perennial Pro Bowler, which gives you even more perspective into just how special Satele was as a rookie- RF365

That could really solidfy our OL for years to come. Cure this disease thats been hampering our offense for years. Imagine a OL that can open holes for the RB constantly and actually provide some protection for our QB to be productive. I know it's hard since we haven't had a OL like that for over a decade, but still try please.

by Neo on Jan 8, 2008 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

exactly

You really do need to solidify a line from within the organization. I'm so tired of the'other team discard' mish mash game the dolphins have been playing. really grabbing benny anderson after the bills cut him... JJ shelton after cleveland cut him and after arizona gave up on him... all from teams know to have some of the worst lines in football, who could have guess those guys wouldn't work out. And if I wasnt brain dead right now, I could remeber the other half dozen losers since webb that Miami has run out there.

Get the bruiser at LT and put carey someplace the where the speed guys wont just say OLE as they pass him by and maybe we might find a QB who can be successful.

by W NY Fins Fan on Jan 8, 2008 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Tonight....

LOL...good one NY Fins. Truthfully we could be watching the first overall pick tonight in Glenn Dorsey. Not since the days of tim Bowens, and Daryll Gardener has Miami had a beast like this in the middle. Our defense has never been the same. You never saw offensive linemen getting to our LB's in the second level like you have in the last couple of years.

Zach was free to move around, make plays. Now he sits concussed and out for the season. Imagine if we had taked Okoye last year and Jake Long this year. Would be a lot different i'm quite sure of that. Nonetheless, we are here at the number one pick, and we get to watch our potential 1st pick showcase exactly who and what he is.

Let's see how his motor runs, i want to see how he reacts in crucial situations, and what kind of heart he has, and if he is a leader or not. we need help on our line in the worst way. and you have to give it to Starkist Parcells, he has a nose for sniffing out GREAT defensive players in the draft!!!!
Peace out-Go DORSEY#72!!!!!!

by FinzD54 on Jan 7, 2008 8:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Dorsey?

Dorsey is so injury prone, it's hard to get behind giving him 30-40 million guaranteed money. If we can't trade away our pick (which really is what we want to do) Jake Long probably is the best pick. The guy has all the tools and is never injured.

John Beck and Ronnie Brown growing behind a young and talented offensive line like that (hopefully including a resigned Rex Hadnot) would put our offense in a great place. You could focus on the defense with the draft and 1 or 2 years down the road when the Dolphins are competing at a higher level look for some plug and play receivers in free agency.

As far as trading goes, in a way it's too bad we got Parcells because after he takes all the Cowboys staff Jerry Jones will be a lot less likely to want to deal with us on the first pick.

by Offer Doll on Jan 8, 2008 5:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Not Bad

But I will make Jerry throw in a player or two. OL and LB would be nice. Hes getting off real easy moving up 16 picks. But I like the 7 picks in the top 68. Try to get another pick in 09 from Atlanta would be nice. Maybe a 3rd or 4th rounder.

by jvw on Jan 7, 2008 8:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Again

We (phinsider community) are pretty certain we won't pick Matt Ryan #1, only reason we would is if Parcells sees no future for Beck. I highly doubt that and that would be a bigger shock than when we drafted Ted Ginn Jr. instead of Brady Quinn. The Falcons should know this.

The Falcons also will theoretically be only going up one spot, since no one else ahead of them has a chance of drafting a QB. They do have a 25% (2 coin flips) of being the 5th pick. If they are in this position they are probably better off trading with St. Louis.

If they do want to trade with us, considering they are going up "one" position for their QB, I doubt they would give up a 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd. Maybe we could get a 1st, a 2nd, and a 5th.

by Beck4Mercy on Jan 7, 2008 9:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Dorsey

Is not a 3-4 guy, prob wont happen.

by YatilGinnJr on Jan 7, 2008 11:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Agree

LSU's offense was on the field so much that I didn't get to watch Dorsey as much as I would have liked. I could be mistaken, but I thought I saw him get pancaked too many times for a first round pick. It looked like he was doubled a lot and Ohio has a huge line, but how would he fare against NFL lines in a 3-4? I'm no expert but he didn't look like the rock that Traylor was for so many years.

by DLPHNS AK on Jan 8, 2008 7:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Dorsey not a 3-4 guy

You know guys we all sit here and think we know what's best for our team, and who will fit "The Mold" of what we are trying to do. Tell me honestly, how can you sit here and say he is not a 3-4 kind of guy, or that he is injury prone? What cause he was hurt this year for five games and still played good enough to get all of the collegiate defensive player of the year awards?

This guy has a mean streak, plays with passion, and has a fire in his belly like we haven't seen. Again i ask you- Wouldn't it have been better that we took Okoye last year, and then drafted Jake Long this year? We didn't so now we have to go with Dorsey. He was injured yes(but he played through it and still got double-teamed), Okoye was too young, he wasn't a 3-4 guy, but, he did one hell of a job in Houston this year!!!

So to all the Mel Kiper's in here and to everyone who doubts this kid-you'll see. I have been watching him closely for a long time. He doesn't get over-powered at the point of attack, and he has that mean streak that we need. He can instantly come in and plug the middle, and inject some much needed life into this sorry defensive line.

C'mon guys, we need a young stud defensive lineman here if we don't trade down. We all saw how people ran on us this year. It was right up the middle, we knew, and we couldn't do anything about it. Parcells knows how to fix defenses, and this will be the first chip in a hopefully quick rebuilding process.

by FinzD54 on Jan 8, 2008 7:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

O Line? or D Line?

Long? Dorsey? Tough questions to answer. Everyone knows the O&D lines are what builds championships.
I would perfer Long, this guy is our replaceent for Richmon Webb. Our defense needs so much work, and our offense is just a few pieces away. Makes sense to get Long and move on. Ronnie Brown running behind that big Mother F, Touchdown!!!!

by ecks on Jan 8, 2008 11:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Take Long

and move Carey back to the right side. Hadnot can play either G position so now we only need another solid G and we have a pretty solid O-Line. Hopefully Joe Toledo can stay healthy enough b/c I've heard a lot of good things about him.

by MarkDuper85 on Jan 8, 2008 2:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs