John Beck: Our Franchise QB

Everyone wanted Miami to select Brady Quinn and let him be this team's franchise quarterback. They didn't. Everyone thought that the Dolphins missed their opportunity to get their franchise QB, the piece of the puzzle this team has missed since Dan Marino retired. They didn't.
Instead, the drafted exactly who they wanted to be this team's franchise quarterback. He didn't play at an over-hyped college and didn't get overhyped himself by the media leading up to the draft. And we, as Dolphin fans, should be happy about that. GM Randy Mueller:
This could explain why the Dolphins, while trading text messages with John Beck towards the mid to late 1st round, were also looking to trade up in the draft to select Beck. It's been reported that Mueller tried as many as 3 times to move up into the late 1st round to secure Beck but with no luck.
However, luck was shining on the Dolphins on that fateful Saturday. When Miami's 2nd round pick (#40 overall) came up, their man was still on the board. John Beck was selected as the Miami Dolphins' franchise quarterback. Like many of you, I questioned the decision. However, after reading up on him and listening to him talk, I don't see how you can not be a huge John Beck fan already!
So let's talk a little bit about him, shall we? Here's part of the scouting report on Beck from NFL.com:
Of course, everyone wants to talk about how he doesn't have good arm strength. And even though it says right in the above scouting report that "Beck's tosses show good zip," people still question him. And you can tell this gets under hi skin. The media has been continually asking him about it. And his response is usually along the lines of, "You can call up my receivers at BYU and ask them about my arm strength." He says that he could "gun it in there" anytime he wants but that he was taught if you don't have to gun it, then don't. It's easier to catch and more accurate if you don't throw rockets when you don't have to. There are also reports that he as thrown the ball from the 45 yard line from his knees through the uprights. Sounds good to me. But if you want facts to back this up, here you go. First, at the combine, John Beck's ball speed was a tremendous 61.1 mph, according to this USA Today article. That was second best among all QBs who threw at the Combine (Russell and Quinn did not throw). Compare that to Drew Stanton's 55.7 or Trent Edwards' 55.2. Oh, and last year when Jay Cutler "wowed" everybody with his arm, he threw it just over 60 mph. Beck out-gunned Cutler. If that isn't enough, I offer you this video:
So, case closed on that arm strength issue that so many people want to talk about.
Next, people criticize the fact that he didn't play elite competition at BYU. It's true that he didn't play elite competition all the time, but he did have many big games against very good teams. Here are a few of them over the past 2 seasons at BYU. I chose to look at 3 games in each season. In 2005, he played at Notre Dame (end of season rank #9 in AP and #11 in Coaches), home against TCU (end of season rank #11 in AP and #9 in Coaches), and their Bowl Game against Cal (ranked #25 in both polls). In 2006, BYU played at TCU, whose defense was ranked in the top 10 in the country. Oh, and in that game, Beck played with 2 sprained ankles that both had to be taped up. See the video below to watch highlights from that game. BYU also played at Boston College (finished season ranked #20 in both polls) and a Bowl Game against Oregon. Here are his stats in these games:
| Game | Result | Comp. | Att. | Pct. | Yds | TDs | INTs | Rating | Rush TDs |
| 2005 vs TCU | L 51-50 (OT) | 30 | 51 | 58.8 | 517 | 5 | 2 | 109.7 | 0 |
| 2005 at ND | L 49-23 | 26 | 45 | 57.8 | 317 | 2 | 2 | 75.9 | 1 |
| 2005 vs Cal | L 35-28 | 35 | 53 | 66 | 352 | 3 | 2 | 87.9 | 0 |
| 2006 at BC | L 30-23 (OT) | 38 | 59 | 64.4 | 436 | 1 | 2 | 78.1 | 1 |
| 2006 at TCU* | W 31-17 | 23 | 37 | 62.2 | 321 | 3 | 0 | 117.1 | 0 |
| 2006 vs Ore | W 38-8 | 28 | 46 | 60.9 | 375 | 2 | 2 | 83.2 | 1 |
| Total | 6 games | 180 | 291 | 61.9 | 386 ypg | 16 | 10 | 90.8 | 3 |
Here's the 2006 video of BYU vs TCU with Beck playing with 2 sprained, taped ankles:
And if you still need more convincing that Beck really does have the makings of a franchise quarterback, all you need to do is listen to him talk. The following is a transcript from the end of an interview Beck did with Joe Rose of 790 The Ticket on Monday morning after being drafted. You can listen to the whole thing at their website, but here's the very end:
I also made a comment yesterday about Dan Marino; how I can remember as a kid and through junior high watching him play; seeing a fire in his eyes. That fire was just a competitor wanting to win more than anything. And when I put that Dolphins uniform on, I want to have that fire in my eyes. I'm going to do anything I can to find a way to win.
Rose: Wow, I'll tell you, I'll play with you right now. Let's go out there and line up, kid. I'm ready to go. Hey, I promise you, John, I will never call you at home again and thank you so much for being with us this morning.
Beck: It was my pleasure. And you know what? If you do need to call me, go ahead and give me a call. I'm a Dolphin.
I can't wait to see this guy in action. Something tells me that Cameron and Mueller found a special player who is going to give us Dolphin fans something to cheer about for a long time!!
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Arm strength
by dplunk on May 2, 2007 12:20 AM EDT reply actions
Right Choice
Weis said he sees alot of Tom Brady in Brady Quinn. He must had been talking about when he looks at the name.
I see more of Brady in Beck than I do Quinn.
Brady is successful, b/c he is in a good system, he is a leader, he stays composed, and most of all He is accurate. Nothing rattles him and his passes always on the pinpoint mark.
By no means am I saying Beck is the next Brady,but from what I've seen/read/heard Beck showed all that in College. Let us hope he can carry it into the NFL.
I want to be a dolphin
Beck: It was my pleasure. And you know what? If you do need to call me, go ahead and give me a call. I'm a Dolphin.
That right there just says so much about Beck in so many different ways.
I don't think this has been pointed out enough.
Quinn was a Brown's fan coming up. He made no secret of his desire of wanting to play for the Browns. He said it repeatedly. He got what he wanted. So Finfans don't be mad, he didn't want to come here anyway.
Incredible
Now, this kid really seems to be what we are looking for. When they announced Ginn at number 9, I saw my world crumble around me. I will admit that much. Looking back now, I call myself a fool for even falling that much into the hype. I really love this kid Beck and KNOW he will do great things here after all I read and this article. I never saw that interview before and reading it brings tears to my eyes. GO PHINS!
Thanks!
lol
by dplunk on May 2, 2007 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions
The real deal...
Now with Beck, I don't get the same flakey impressions that I got with Quinn. Maybe it is the fanboy dolp-fan in me, but he seems like the real deal. His words aren't forced, they seem natural and to the point. He speaks his mind and seems to have strong convictions. Beck has his priorities in order and I think he'll make all the difference in the world.
Time will tell, I suppose. I cannot wait for a Quinn/Beck showdown in the playoffs of the future.
by CapedCrusader on May 2, 2007 2:33 PM EDT reply actions
Love waiting to take Beck
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/07rangsgang.php
I feel that the two most important characteristics for a quarterback are not size and arm strength, but leadership and accuracy. These are two of Beck's greatest attributes. His size, arm strength, and mobility are all better than advertised. If I have a top 5 pick in this draft with Russell and/or Quinn on the board, I draft another position and target Beck in the middle rounds.
That last sentence is exactly what the Dolphins did. It allowed us to get a better player up front while still getting a great quarterback.
The Love Boat...
Meanwhile, the Beck love fest is in full force. He's got the best arm, the most accuracy, the most poise, played in the toughest games, heck, he might even part the sea during mini-camp this weekend.
I remember quite well how when Saban was hired, when Culpepper was traded, how everyone loved it. If you questioned it, then you were, well, stupid or worse stil, a pats fan. Hmmm, now those same folks would be the first ones to say both moves (Saban & Culpepper) were stupid.
I could care less what Quinn sounds like in an interview or Beck. Is it a personality contest or a football game? Are we getting guys to give good interviews or win games? I mean seriously...
Neo - so from your couch, TV set, and computer - you know better than Charlie Weis? Charlie Weis, who coached both Quinn and Tom Brady for years, is flat-out wrong or delusional in saying that Quinn reminds him of Brady?
The fact is, nobody is right all the time. Coaches and GM's screw up, even the best ones. Mueller picked Walter Jones, but he also selected Rick Mirer and Dan McGwire remember? If someone was right all the time, then it sure would be a very predictable league.
Not so fast...
However, there are a few of us that have never been high on Quinn. It's easy to get caught up in the hype, but the fact of the matter is, the Dolphins didn't feel that Quinn was leaps and bounds above the second tier of QBs in this years draft. Right or wrong? We'll see soon enough.
As to the other points:
- Charlie Weis' endorsement of Quinn was nothing more than posturing for ND recruitment. While not "flat-out wrong or delusional", his stance was far from unbiased. What is he supposed to say?
- As to his previous endevours in the draft, Randy Mueller was little more than a water-boy when the Seahawks selected Mirer and McGwire. I don't believe he had any substantial role until the 1995 Draft... but don't quote me on that.
by CapedCrusader on May 2, 2007 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
And lastly...
Nobody is right all the time. Yeap, absolutely.
Take the NFL schedule for instance. All over the country, people ranging from casual fans, diehards, and professionals are dissecting the schedule and attempting to pencil in wins & losses.
Who would have thought that New Orleans would be in the NFC title game last year? Granted it is the NFC, but still, totally unexpected. Who would have thought a sixth round draft choice, Tom Brady, would lead a team to 3 super bowls?
I'm hoping one of this coming season's pleasant surprises is well, our own Dolphins.
A Beck positive...
yea well...
Either way... all this is moot because we dont have a set of CBs to cover Moss and Stallworth at the same time. We might as well just fast forward to 2009 and maybe brady will retire and then we'll have a chance.
Ginn
by dplunk on May 2, 2007 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Well..
I agree with you about our corners, we did need to upgrade. That being said, we were the 4th ranked defense in the NFL last year.
Personally I don't think our corners will have to cover long. Jason Taylor on 1 side, Zach Thomas in the middle, and Joey Porter on the other, buddy we're gonna bring it. Moss isn't gonna have time to get 40 yards down the field, cause Brady will be on his back quicker that a NYC prostitute. Dom Capers might not be a good head coach, but he is a excellent defense coordinator. He'll find a way to apply pressure.
Yeah!!! and......
by Hudman on May 2, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions
Quinn/Beck
by dplunk on May 2, 2007 10:56 PM EDT reply actions
thanks
http://www.miamiherald.com/616/story/93458.html
also... PFT rumor mill mentioned the whole Texans taking Ginn if he was there at 10.... well what if houston didnt trade for Shaub....and picked at 8... you think we woulda taken Quinn????? if not then who??
hmmmm....
As far as the Texans taking Ginn, if they were at 8 and took him, I don't know what would have happened. Maybe a corner? Maybe Joe Staley at #9?? Good question!
#9 w/o Ginn
Injuries
People, for whatever reason, seem to put much more emphasis on their most recent experiences. Teams are no different I think. So I can see where injuries are a concern.
With that in mind, I guess I am wondering about the Fin's medical staff. They were wrong not just on Culpepper, but on Brees also. Imagine how different this franchise would be now with Drew Brees at QB since last year? So taking a guy at #9 who has an injury that hasn't healed in 4 months, is certainly something to be worried about. I hope the medical staff got it right this time.

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