Week 14 Open Thread: Dolphins at Bills


Miami Dolphins (0-12) at Buffalo Bills (6-6)
1:00 pm EST, CBS
Ralph Wilson Stadium
Wintry Mix, 32 degrees, 70% chance of precip
Line: Bills -7, Over/Under 35
Team Offensive Rankings
Dolphins - 29th total offense (281.5), 18th rush offense (103.2), 27th pass offense (178.3), 27th scoring offense (16.3)
Bills - 31st total offense (274.8), 20th rush offense (101.1), 29th pass offense (173.8), 29th scoring offense (15.3)
Team Defensive Rankings
Dolphins - 16th total defense (329), 32nd rush defense (149.7), 3rd pass defense (179.3), 30th scoring defense (26.4)
Bills - 30th total defense (370.3), 22nd rush defense (116.3), 29th pass defense (254), 21st scoring defense (22.8)
Today's Inactives
Dolphins: RB Jesse Chatman, WR Marty Booker, CB Michael Lehan, LB Channing Crowder, DT Anthony Bryant, T Julius Wilson, DE Matt Roth, and LB Mark Washington
Bills: QB Gibran Hamdan, LB Coy Wire, CB Jerametrius Butler, RB Shaud Williams, OL Christian Gaddis, FB Ryan Neufeld, DE Chris Kelsey, DE Bryan Copeland, and LB Leon Joe
Prediction: I'll say this game stays close throughout and then the Dolphins find a new and exciting way to lose. But the Dolphin offense will finally score a touchdown. Bills win 16-10.
GO DOLPHINS!!!!
**UPDATE**: This is depressing. 0-13 and with little hope. Oh well. Recap post coming later tonight. Go Steelers!!
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Comments
This game could really get ugly...
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 12:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Chicken! you know the Fins are going to win!
I've got your number! ;)
(i don't really believe this, but every week, i try to convince myself)
by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 9, 2007 12:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
God I hope we win
by Rytackle on Dec 9, 2007 1:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
AAAAANNNNDDDD TTTEEDDD GIIINNNN!!
by Rytackle on Dec 9, 2007 1:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Who is calling?
by JC on Dec 9, 2007 1:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
and now...
At what point do we begin to consider the possibility of Cam getting fired tonight....or maybe even during the game.
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So now Beck gets pulled...
Should we begin to wonder about Beck's future now?
What does this all mean?
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 1:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
first time they threw on first down
by W NY Fins Fan on Dec 9, 2007 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What does this all mean?
by Neo on Dec 9, 2007 1:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
beck
by TheFallOfTroy54 on Dec 9, 2007 1:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He lost another fumble again
by Neo on Dec 9, 2007 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
by Neo on Dec 9, 2007 1:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
anyone ever think that
blame the o-line
but maybe thats why lemon has been talkin shit.. the fans wanted beck & thats what they got.
we might need to face the facts.. that maybe Beck wont be the future qb, maybe we passed on Quinn cause he wasnt either.. Ginn has done pretty damn well when given the chance
by Emmett on Dec 9, 2007 2:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
just thinking out loud:
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wished we could
by Emmett on Dec 9, 2007 2:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
But we also have to remember...
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 2:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
but maybe thats why lemon has been talkin shit
I beginning to think we should just start from scratch. Find a proven HC, and take a QB with the #1 overall.
We talked alot about Cowher and Schottenheimer, but what about 2 coaches that might be on the out after this year, Brian Billick of Balitmore and John Fox of Carolina? We any of those 2 be considered "proven enough" for consideration?
by Neo on Dec 9, 2007 2:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
and there's Donte Whitner making a play...
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 2:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fire Cam Cameron Now
by Neo on Dec 9, 2007 2:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
what do you want more?
by JC on Dec 9, 2007 2:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So what are our chances against the Ravens?
by Beck4Mercy on Dec 9, 2007 2:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well done Cam
by Neo on Dec 9, 2007 2:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i was just saying
he sucks ass but maybe he was doing better than beck in pratice
cant compare beck to elway..
but you see all our "pick ups" doing good elsewhere.. i mean Sage Rosnefals??
we need a new owner who wants to WIN not please his buddies..
I agree
New everything.. & we have the #1 pick to deal with.. an extra #2, lost a #5 for trent.. but Trent could have went either way
by Emmett on Dec 9, 2007 2:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
and we might see Beck back in there after all
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 2:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If cam took Beck out
by Neo on Dec 9, 2007 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea but at least
I know one thing. I'm going to have to eat crow on the whole Cleo thing. The Cleo lovers are going to really give it to me. Oh well.
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In fact
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
7 /13 for 105 yards 0 TDs 2 Ints
by Neo on Dec 9, 2007 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
rest assured
by W NY Fins Fan on Dec 9, 2007 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No crow eating
#1. The Bills prepped all week for Beck
#2. It's obvious that Cam is opening the playbook a lot deeper for Cleo than for Beck.
But Buffalo seems to have recovered from that one long pass Cleo connected on, where his mobility helped create the play. Since then, he's gone back to looking like his same old self.
by The Dude on Dec 9, 2007 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
damn
wheres the damn budlight commericials, so I can slam one on the table & get in a throw??
by Emmett on Dec 9, 2007 2:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
good question
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
cant we
last few years at QB we have had career back ups, but they do produce on other teams..
hopefully ronnie will recover & wayne will want to win in 08
20+ years of all the BS picks & playing styles..
just once I want to see something!!
by Emmett on Dec 9, 2007 2:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
pope & allen
I hope allen turns out to be what he was in college
& why does Hagan actually catch Lemons passes.. its like some players like beck some lemon..
this team needs to be a team..
aint no I in Lose or Team
by Emmett on Dec 9, 2007 2:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
very true
by Emmett on Dec 9, 2007 2:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think that Cleo should be the man.
I remember how shitty Steve Young looked when he played for Tampa and the team and fans quit on him so he gets traded to San Francisco and becomes a hall of famer......Go figure......
I wish Miami would have taken Quinn and Beck would have went to Detroit.
by midwayrider on Dec 9, 2007 2:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You want Beck to get dumped?
But with that said, you have to believe that there's going to be some talk about taking a QB like Matt Ryan with the #1 overall pick (yes, I think Ryan is the best of the bunch).
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
3 and out
by Enhalo on Dec 9, 2007 2:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
thats what
^^^
I was insuinuating (spelling) by Ginn no targets like Beck does him alot & Hagan actually catching a ball
by Emmett on Dec 9, 2007 3:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jason Taylor making a play!
Nice play by the vet. At least he's still trying out there.
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 3:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If I were Taylor
by Enhalo on Dec 9, 2007 3:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nice block by the pulling Hadnot...
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 3:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
QB's
If Lemon gets hurt who they got next? Is Green available.
Speaking of San Francisco I wonder if they might be interested in Beck since Smith looks like he is a bust?
by midwayrider on Dec 9, 2007 3:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We aren't trading Beck
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
there really was no plan
by W NY Fins Fan on Dec 9, 2007 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine this
by Neo on Dec 9, 2007 3:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
As much as I don't like him
by Enhalo on Dec 9, 2007 3:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's it.
by The Dude on Dec 9, 2007 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another fumble
by Enhalo on Dec 9, 2007 3:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Another fumble
by Neo on Dec 9, 2007 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Beck
Well if this muffed onside kick doesn't screw them over they could win this game....
by midwayrider on Dec 9, 2007 3:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Will Allen....
Those are the kinds of breaks 0-12 teams need to get!
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 3:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why onsides kick?
by Neo on Dec 9, 2007 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The whole team has picked it up
by midwayrider on Dec 9, 2007 3:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
you mean the onsides kick?
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was a great call
by Neo on Dec 9, 2007 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean yeah
by Enhalo on Dec 9, 2007 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But see what I don't get
by Enhalo on Dec 9, 2007 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a moot
by The Dude on Dec 9, 2007 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
by Neo on Dec 9, 2007 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Neo
by The Dude on Dec 9, 2007 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
Until that last TD our Defense has held them scoreless the 2nd half. We've scored 10 unanswered points, still had a quater and half to go. Anyways if your gonna onside, then you go for in Bills territory on 4 & 4.
by Neo on Dec 9, 2007 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we're
by The Dude on Dec 9, 2007 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cameron makes no sense
by Neo on Dec 9, 2007 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not pissed at him
by Enhalo on Dec 9, 2007 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 3:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
that's the cleo I know
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 3:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
0-13, here we come
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 3:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well gang
by midwayrider on Dec 9, 2007 3:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Todays game in a nutshell
~"I was talking to Booker out there, and he was saying, `Man, I don't know what it feels like to win in this league, yet,"' Whitner said, referring to Dolphins rookie running back Lorenzo Booker. "And I said, `You know, don't stress over it. ... Things are going to get better."'~
~ Trouble is, Miami put up such a weak fight that it's difficult to gauge how good the Bills were.~
~The game was effectively over when Buffalo took advantage of two turnovers and three sacks to build a 24-7 lead by the end of the first quarter.~
~Rookie quarterback Trent Edwards' four touchdown passes~
~The Bills' running attack produced two 100-yard rushers ~
~I feel for Miami, but obviously, we wanted to beat them as bad as we possibly could here," coach Dick Jauron said~
~capitalizing on one of the more laughable moments. On his ninth play from scrimmage, rookie Dolphins starter John Beck was untouched in the pocket when the ball slipped out of his hand and fell directly into Wilson's arms, allowing the converted receiver to score his second defensive touchdown this year.~
This right here is too rich> This is the QB of our team:
~ Lemon threw two interceptions including one picked off by Whitner after ---the quarterback attempted a play-action fake with no one in his backfield. -----
This team is a laughing stock, Cameron has lost this team. It clearly shows in their play, even our rivals feel sorry for us.
Pro-Camers what you got now? Wanna talk about our improved offense? How bout that improved O-line? I'll give you injuries on the offense, but there aren't any in that O-line. Our QB is play-acting with no one behind him. Got blown out at home to lowly Jets and the game in Buffalo was over after the 1st quarter.
Fire Cam Cameron. Thank You.
by Neo on Dec 9, 2007 8:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yup
by Matty I on Dec 9, 2007 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
Give me 1 good reason why we should keep him. I don't want any "excuses" why we should keep him, I want a "reason". What has he improved on this team? What has he done to keep job? What has he done to warrant another year? Just one thing.
by Neo on Dec 9, 2007 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
replacing Cam doesn't need to be a judgement
A fresh coach means the players have a reason to start fresh, no judgement, just perform at their merits.
And as much as Cam is a QB coach, I think the judgement is so clouded right now. Nothing has gone as he hoped or planned and I don't trust him to evaluate anyone, including his pick Beck.
by cocoabeach on Dec 9, 2007 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Give me a reason
Please just give me one reason to think your choice will get us some SB's and I'll be more than glad to join you and holler with you "FIRE CAM NOW" until then I'll stick with who we have, at least for a little while , thank you.
by gafinfan on Dec 10, 2007 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how about any coach with a winning record
Any response from him, yup he put mularkey, maybe the worst playcaller in the league, in charge of the offense.
It's time for a change, but this time hire a winner. any winner, but we need someone who knows how to build a winning team.
by W NY Fins Fan on Dec 10, 2007 1:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
IIRC...
by urbino on Dec 11, 2007 12:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As a head coach
don't just look at the head coach record - look at the records as assistants....
Cam is a loser. Mularkey is a loser, and Capers is the friggin grim reaper.
by W NY Fins Fan on Dec 11, 2007 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BB
Has a game plan.
Knows how to handle rookies.
Knows how to make adjustments.
Decisive
Knows how to play-call (without a committee).
Knows when to call a timeout.
Knows how to handle Public Relations.
Doesn't look like a deer in headlights.
Knows how to manage the game clock.
Everything Cam is not. Screw his record, this is going to his ability to be a HC>
by Neo on Dec 11, 2007 1:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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