Week 17 Open Thread: Bengals at Dolphins

by Matty I on Dec 30, 2007 12:16 PM EST in 2012 Miami Dolphins News

Cincinnati Bengals (6-9) at Miami Dolphins (1-14) Sunday, December 30
1:00 pm EST, CBS
Dolphin Stadium
Cloudy, 81 degrees
Line: Bengals -3, Over/Under 45

Today's Inactives

Bengals: S Dexter Jackson, RB Rudi Johnson, OG Nate Livings, TE Nate Lawrie, DT Michael Myers, QB Jeff Rowe, and LB Anthony Schlegel

Dolphins: RB Patrick Cobbs, QB Casey Bramlet, T Julius Wilson, G Ike Ndukwe, T Anthony Alabi, DE Rob Ninkovich, NT Keith Traylor, and DT Paul Soliai

Prediction: Who gives a damn? We all just can't wait to get to the offseason, when the real fun begins. This game ends a miserable season for the Dolphins. However, I do think the Dolphins might just hang tight in this game, as I suspect the Bengals have already checked out for 2007. In the end, I'll say Bengals win 24-16.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

**UPDATE**: Well this dreadful season is now over. Beck looked pretty good in relief of Cleo. I'll be back later tonight/tomorrow morning with some thoughts. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday, everyone.

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One quick note:

Due to other obligations, I won't be watching the entire game, though I'll surely be keeping track of it. But I likely won't be commenting much at all. But I highly encourage you all to make some comments and keep this place alive today.

I'll be back later on tonight/early tomorrow morning with a post that quickly talks about today's game but, more importantly, begins our look to the future.

GO DOLPHINS!!

by Matty I on Dec 30, 2007 12:20 PM EST reply actions

blow out

don't know why, but we'll put up big points if only because that's the outcome that will add to the mix of debate about who stays and who doesn't in this damned season. Fair play to the patsies, they have been great, and we'd want them to say the same if we'd gone 16-0. Still, I don't think they'll be hoisting the big one. Too many pitfalls.

by JC @ The Phinsider on Dec 30, 2007 12:40 PM EST reply actions

Yeah yeah

Congrats to the Pats. We all hate them, but we can't say what they did in the regular season wasn't quite impressive. But now the real test begins. All the pressure in the world will know be on the Pats. Personally, I hope the road to going undefeated for New England includes the Jaguars, Colts, and Cowboys. If it does, I think they'll get tripped up somewhere along the way.

by Matty I on Dec 30, 2007 12:43 PM EST up reply actions

The IN crowd

Who's in:
Ocho Cinco some people are saying. Pennington (Yyyyuck....) coz BP has done it before. New DC coz capers has no cojones. An OC coz CC can't do both. Garret slipped thru our fingers. FA secondary, never mind our ranking.

by JC @ The Phinsider on Dec 30, 2007 12:46 PM EST reply actions

Parcells hates guys like Chad Johnson

I doubt he comes to Miami. Besides, it would cost way too much for him.

by Matty I on Dec 30, 2007 12:47 PM EST up reply actions

What I heard Tuna say

Structure: definitely new OC. New conditioning and medical staff.
Philosophy: a power game based on that which we don't have.
Talent: a seminal draft with echoes for 10 years. Someone will trade for Mcfadden coz he'll make a contender make that step. Jones will pull the trigger when play-off disappointment turns into action. Dallas will give it all for a shot. win-win.

by JC @ The Phinsider on Dec 30, 2007 12:55 PM EST reply actions

In other action,

the Browns had just driven on their first possession down to SF's 21 yard line, where Derek Anderson has thrown another interception to kill that drive. That's 5 picks in the last 63 minutes of game action for Anderson. Do some people still want him in Miami?

by Matty I on Dec 30, 2007 1:12 PM EST reply actions

As opposed to whom?

Cleo? Beck? A raw draftee?

by urbino on Dec 30, 2007 3:36 PM EST up reply actions

Finally...

...in the 2nd quarter, the Dolphins get their first 3rd down stop. I don't get why Cincy decided to run the bal l3 straight times when everyone can see we can't stop the pass today. Maybe Marvin Lewis felt bad for us for a second and cut us a break.

by Matty I on Dec 30, 2007 1:43 PM EST reply actions

bring it...

on! Ok I'm getting carried away.

by JC @ The Phinsider on Dec 30, 2007 1:55 PM EST reply actions

TEDDY GINN!!!!!!

2nd career receiving TD...congrats and nice job catching the ball and keeping feet in!

by Matty I on Dec 30, 2007 1:55 PM EST reply actions

This just in

Ginn has been sighted in the states. More than 1 report has him scoring a TD in Miami. More to come.

by Neo on Dec 30, 2007 1:55 PM EST reply actions

Short lived enjoyment

Chad Johnson made sure we didn't enjoy a lead for very long.

by Matty I on Dec 30, 2007 2:03 PM EST reply actions

Oh...

...and Jason Allen still stinks.

by Matty I on Dec 30, 2007 2:05 PM EST up reply actions

Now that didn't last very long did it?

by Neo on Dec 30, 2007 2:03 PM EST reply actions

Who'll start

game 1 next season at QB? We can guess who won't.

by JC @ The Phinsider on Dec 30, 2007 2:21 PM EST reply actions

Who knows...

...at this point?

by Matty I on Dec 30, 2007 2:28 PM EST up reply actions

game 1 next season at QB?

I'm just wanna know the answer to THIS question: Who'll start game 1 next season at HC? I can hope who won't.

by Neo on Dec 30, 2007 2:29 PM EST up reply actions

What I do know...

...is this secondary needs to be upgraded immediately. I'm tired of the swiss cheese pass defense.

Anyways, I'm out of here now. Enjoy the rest of the game. Hopefully the Dolphins can get back into this one.

I'll be back tonight with quick talk about the game and then we will begin to look forward, where the future has to be brighter than what we've just gone through in 2007.

by Matty I on Dec 30, 2007 2:30 PM EST reply actions

Long gone are the days of

Surtain and Madison.

by Neo on Dec 30, 2007 2:34 PM EST up reply actions

They were a good tandem

But Madison isnt what he once was.
I dont know Surtain is doing in KC.

by Patssuck456 on Dec 30, 2007 2:42 PM EST up reply actions

hey Neo

What ya doing for New Years'?

by JC @ The Phinsider on Dec 30, 2007 2:45 PM EST reply actions

What ya doing for New Years'?

Making a New Years' resoultion to start proof reading my posts.-) Celebrating Parcells' arrival, the jettison of my beloved franchise's disfuctional front office personel, HC, players, and trying to forget the Pats perfect regular season. In short, probably gonna get blasted.

by Neo on Dec 30, 2007 2:55 PM EST up reply actions

Thatta boy John

by Neo on Dec 30, 2007 2:48 PM EST reply actions

This half....

will answer my earlier question

by JC @ The Phinsider on Dec 30, 2007 2:56 PM EST reply actions

perfect situation

for John to answer questions. He doesn't even have to win.

by JC @ The Phinsider on Dec 30, 2007 2:59 PM EST reply actions

Ok

if Beck can't move the ball on this defense, he does have issues. I'm not asking him to score on all his drives, but something. Put up a TD, show some competence.

by Neo on Dec 30, 2007 3:06 PM EST reply actions

what if...

he can't? bp will be down on him and then what's next? Draft a QB? Bring in (holy cow) yet another vet. My guess is he already knows what steay vet he wants to steady the ship.

by JC @ The Phinsider on Dec 30, 2007 3:16 PM EST reply actions

the exact reason

why he sould have been playing the last 8 weeks.
The dolphins org needs to get a handle on what kind of QB he is going to be. one who just needs some work or a failure, unfortunatly we will never know this season. Can't really judge him for this game since, the all knowing QB developer hasn't given him first team snaps in practice since the buffalo game.

by W NY Fins Fan on Dec 30, 2007 3:22 PM EST up reply actions

this season

how many times have we lead TOP & lose? or turnovers?

we could have won atleast 6 games that I got to see

by Emmett on Dec 30, 2007 3:36 PM EST reply actions

TypicalDolphin Game

at least now that the rout is on, Beck has a chance to enhance his numbers like the offense has been doing all season.

--Note to Matty I: I'm stating this as my opinion not a fact.--

by Neo on Dec 30, 2007 3:38 PM EST reply actions

Anyways...

A very happy New Year to all you guys, the community has kept me interested and kean in the bleakest of times. May the new year bring everything we wish for. Wish lists?

by JC @ The Phinsider on Dec 30, 2007 3:40 PM EST reply actions

Wish List

Muller gone.
Cameron gone.
Capers gone.
Mularkey gone
Jeff Ireland as GM
Tony Sparano as HC
A solid draft, with good NFL players to make a good foundation for the Fins for years to come.
Good Trades (if we make any).
Solid FA acquisitions at fair prices.
A Patriot loss in the post season.
Parcells staying the full 4 years to make sure the foundation is in place.

by Neo on Dec 30, 2007 3:48 PM EST up reply actions

Wish List

1 New OC
2 Capers gone
3 the Mafia guy OC
4 Trade down draft; build up draft
5 BP loves fishing too much to move
6 Zach finishes his career here
7 Parcells kicks the F*** out of the guys in the background that we never hear about but make a difference but he knew immediately when he arrived.

by JC @ The Phinsider on Dec 30, 2007 3:59 PM EST reply actions

Can you guess

which is the 4 year vet and the 5 game rookie???

J. Beck 13/21 135 1 0

C. Lemon 14/21 123 1 0

by Neo on Dec 30, 2007 4:13 PM EST reply actions

It's over, Thank God it's all over

by Neo on Dec 30, 2007 4:14 PM EST reply actions

Hahaha

No where to go but up now Neo. Comon draft! Work your magic Bill-Fin! Keep up the great work Matty! And to all you fin lovers, hang in there guys and girls you are the true fish-fans. Fans that can go 1-15 and shed tears of joy for 1 win. That wont happen next year my friends.. Look for a winning season!

by Spacefish on Dec 30, 2007 4:22 PM EST up reply actions

the trouble is...

what have we got to look forward to when Tuna does NOT fire Cam and the long drag to the draft. Sundays are unthinkable.

by JC @ The Phinsider on Dec 30, 2007 4:17 PM EST reply actions

Yea

1-15 record

4 blowouts in his last 5 games

Players don't like him

PTF is even reporting that some of his coaching staff has lost faith in him

Not to mention his game decision, management, ect did not improve all year long.

His love affair with Lemon

Sure his staying..........Not

by Neo on Dec 30, 2007 4:44 PM EST up reply actions

I'm sorry

~PTF is even reporting that some of his coaching staff has lost faith in him~

That didn't come from PFT, it came from the Miami Herald.

by Neo on Dec 30, 2007 4:52 PM EST up reply actions

As far as the team goes..

I didn't know he sent Traylor home. Cameron can't get out quick enough for me.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/content/sports/epaper/2007/12/30/1230traylor.html

by Neo on Dec 30, 2007 6:49 PM EST up reply actions

It's official

I'm now on your side of the tracks Neo. The way Cam treated K. Traylor did it for me. I can now say I'm on the I WANT CAMERON GONE choo-choo.

by gafinfan on Dec 30, 2007 7:48 PM EST up reply actions

This says it all doesn't it?

I need a vacation," said receiver Marty Booker, dressing quickly at his locker. "When everything is this dismal, being frustrated every week, of course it takes a toll on you. I'm spent. It's over. All that's left now is to sit around and see what happens."

by Neo on Dec 30, 2007 6:44 PM EST reply actions

Beck's release...

is quick indeed. I hope he can 'slow the game down' like Marino could so he can accurately anticipate the best throws.

by OntheGo on Dec 30, 2007 9:54 PM EST reply actions

Beck looked like he was finally starting to get

settled down. It's a shame he didn't have more opportunities to develop during the season.

I also did not understand why they were not sending Ginn deep. Instead they send Hagan deep, and expect him to run under the ball? I never really though of him as being known for his speed. The deep pass to Hagan could have been caught by Ginn.

Cameron is an idiot.

by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 30, 2007 10:11 PM EST reply actions