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5 Good Questions: Baltimore Ravens Edition

It's time to once again hear from the opposition's point of view.  This week, Rexx from Baltimore Beatdown joins us to answer my Raven-related questions.  And as always, you can head on over to his site and see my responses to his Dolphin-related queries.

I've been hearing that Brian Billick is likely to be back next season.  Is this accurate?  And if so, do you agree with the move to bring him back?

Billick said he will be back earlier in the week and the owner, Steve Bisciotti confirmed it yesterday. Bisciotti said he doesn't hold Billick responsible, as he puts the blame on the overwhelming injuries and poor player performance (I thought the coach was responsible for this!). Unfortunately, Billick signed a four year $20 milllion extension after last season, and still has 3 years and $15 million left, so you can believe whatever reason you want. In my opinion, Billick has made so many poor calls in specific critical game conditions that I actually hold him personally responsible for three losses this season, and would prefer to go in another direction.

I think it's safe to say Steve McNair's career is coming to an end.  And it's probably safe to say Kyle Boller will never be as good as many, including myself, thought he would be.  So where does that leave the Ravens at the QB position and how do you think they will upgrade at that position?

Kyle Boller signed a one year extension earlier this season, so he will be back and probably as the starter. My thought is that we drafted the Heisman Trophy winner from Ohio State, Troy Smith, in the fifth round last season and before we spend our first pick on another QB, we need to give him the same chance Boller's had to rule themselves out of the running.

What are your thoughts on Willis McGahee's first season in Baltimore?

McGahee has been one of the few bright spots this season, as he's been a huge upgrade from Jamal Lewis, who was strictly one dimensional. There were times throughout the season that I was left scratching my head on Billick's play calling, as he spent over $40 million on McGahee, but waasn't giving him the ball enough. Now he's pretty much carrying the offense, and will be a better player once we get some sort of air attack.

How would you gameplan to try and beat the Ravens if you were Miami's head coach?

The Ravens shutdown cornerback, Chris McAlister, has been placed on IR. The other starter, Samari Rolle may or may not join him shortly. Their replacements have been absolutely clueless in coverage. Both starters missed the Steelers and Colts games, and you see what happened in both contests! I would abandon the run, as nobody has been successful on the ground all season, and neither will the Dolphins. Despite Miami's offensive woes, they should go to the air and challenge the defensive backs with double fakes and long passes, both of which have been hugely successful against the Ravens.

How will this game on Sunday play out?  Who wins and by how much?

Despite the poor play of the Ravens and how disappointing their season has been after finishing last year 13-3, the Ravens are still a better team than the Dolphins. Miami seems to be a team in as much disarray as my Ravens and never were expected to be that good even before the season started. That said, Miami's best chance at avoiding history comes this Sunday, as the ravens have played even worse on the road than at home. However, I just don't see Miami escaping their destiny of going 0-16, and will join the New England Patriots, albeit at opposite ends of the spectrum, at making history. Ravens 23-13.

PS- No offense to the Dolphins fans, but if and when the Pats go undefeated, their place in history will be way above Miami's, as this achievement in this day and age totally blows away anything Miami did in their 1972 season, and New England will take its place atop the football world as the greatest team of all time (mind you, I'm not a Pats fan, but it's hard to argue against this opinion of mine)!

Here's all I'll say about the Patriots thing that Rexx brings up.  The Dolphins had to play their 5th game to their 13th game with their backup quarterback because Bob Griese was injured.  Can you imagine if the Pats had to play that many games without Tom Brady?  Would they still be undefeated?  Also, the Dolphins, despite going 14-0 in the regular season, had to play the AFC Championship game on the road at Pittsburgh.  This is because, at that time, the home field for the conference title games were based on a rotating schedule.  So the Dolphins had to travel to Pittsburgh on New Year's eve and defeat the Steelers.  These Pats will never have to leave New England in the playoffs until the Super Bowl.  I think those 2 facts really make the casual fan understand how impressive it was for that '72 team to do what they did.  And there's no way at all anyone can say the Pats' place in history will be "way above" Miami's.  

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With you Matty about the Pats being above Miami because of the same point you brought up. There is no way the Pats go undefeated with Tom Brady out. There is no other QB that even comes close to Tom that is on that team right now and really the same is true of several top teams, Colts included. That is the main reason I hope the Fins get another QB in this draft. It's crazy to put all your eggs in one basket at such an important position.

by gafinfan on Dec 14, 2007 3:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just remember...
even the players, JT said it in the preseason (you know, green eggs & ham), wondered about Green's durability.

Sure enough he was ko'd in the first 1/4 of the season. The dolphins and cam somehow expected him to play the whole, or most of the season, as they made no contingency plans for him being out - by keeping a veteran QB who could at least be respectable.

Instead well, we are seeing the Leo Lemon show for the umpteenth time this season.

Besides, why are you (matty) focusing on an issue that has nothing to do with this week's game with the ravens when discussing their bloggers comments?

by Natalya on Dec 14, 2007 3:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Because...
..Rexx brought it up (not me) and I couldn't let it go unnoticed. I had to at least defend our 72 Fins.

by Matty I on Dec 14, 2007 3:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The '72 Dolphins generally are...
substantially underrated.  People will mention them in "Greatest Team" discussions, but generally in a sort of grudging, "okay, I have to because they went undefeated but they really weren't that good," kind of way.  I don't know if it's because the Raiders, Steelers, and Cowboys so dominated the mid-late '70s, both on the field and off -- seemed so much larger than life -- that the Dolphins of the early '70s seem small by comparison, or what.  Maybe, because it is the only perfect season, people see it as some kind of fluke.

It was no fluke.  The '72 perfect season was followed by a '73 in which they went 12-2 and won the Super Bowl again.  That's a 2-year mark of 26-2, with 2 SB wins.  The '72 perfect season was preceded by a '71 season in which they went 10-3-1 and went to the Super Bowl.  This was a team nobody wanted to play, ever.

From 1971-1973, the Dolphins went 36-5-1, went to 3 consecutive Super Bowls, and won 2 consecutive.

During the five years from 1970-74, they were 57-12-1, losing as many as 4 games in a season only once, made the playoffs every year, the Super Bowl 3 years, and won it twice.

For comparison, let's look at the best 5-yr. period by the current generation of the Pats: 2003-present.  

                  Fins     Pats
-------------    -------  -------
total record     57-12-1   63-14
win%              81.4     81.8
losses/ssn.        2.4      2.8
playoff ssn's      5        4
SB ssn's           3        2
SB wins            2        2
Perfect ssn's      1        .75

The difference in the two teams' winning percentage and average number of losses is basically the one tie by the Dolphins.  There's just not much there to support a claim that either team is "greater" than the other.

If this Pats team goes undefeated all the way through the SB this year, then wins it again next year while suffering 2 or fewer losses (or make it 3, since the season is longer), then they'll have put together 2 years as impressive as the Dolphins '72-'73 stretch.  Right now they're still working on just the first half of that.

Now, this year's Pats are the best football team I've ever seen, but I'm too young to remember the '72-'73 Dolphins.  I'm not saying this Pats team isn't great; clearly they are.  I'm just saying these statements about them being greater than -- much less "clearly greater than" -- those Dolphins teams simply aren't supportable.

by urbino on Dec 14, 2007 5:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah! 72 Dolphins...
... The Patsies still have some games to play and even then, there will always be 'Shula's asterisk.' Damn cheaters.

by ufourya on Dec 14, 2007 4:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It will be...
... the greatest upset in sports history if the Dolphins upset the Patsies.

by ufourya on Dec 14, 2007 4:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why, I'd give up...
...my left - Oh, yeah, the ex-wife already got that in the settlement.

by ufourya on Dec 15, 2007 11:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

72 fins
Actually the Fins went without Griese from games 5 thru 15 not games 5 thru 13.Griese didn't come back till the AFC championship game against Pittsburgh(game 16).

by ncfinfan69 on Dec 14, 2007 5:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The
 72 dolpins are generally considered to not be the best team ever, despite their record, though definitely one of the top teams ever.

What's interesting, is that I've read in a number of places where Don Shula himself has said that the '73 team was actually better. Looking at the talent, the teams they played, level of competition etc, I can believe that the '73 squad was better, even if they didn't have a perfect record.

by Natalya on Dec 14, 2007 6:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wanna take it Outside...
Rexx is an ass. He's only saying that to inflame us (me). And he did. Thanks to `urbino' for the great info on the greatest team EVER.

The Dolphins of that era were unprecedented. As has been said, here's what they did:

In 1971, Super Bowl VI, but lost to the Dallas Cowboys.
In 1972, the perfect season Super Bowl VII.
They also won Super Bowl VIII in 1973.
The first team to go to three consecutive Super Bowls --- that's a three-peat in my book.
Has any team gone three in-a-row to the Super Bowl?

Miami also appeared in Super Bowl XVII and Super Bowl XIX, losing both games.

AND, Mr. Rexx-the-Ass, how is being the "second" to do it (if it's done), make the Patsies a place above? How do the Patsies do it with a back-up quarterback? "Way above?" "Way above?" "Are you kidding me!"

Just like "a know-it-all", who speaks before he has all the facts, Rexxy has been standing behind a coughing dairy cow. And he stinks...

by Alpha6 on Dec 14, 2007 9:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just me being me...
The best the Patriots can be is 2nd to the Dolphins.  Doing the 'been there done that' walk.

Peace

by OntheGo on Dec 14, 2007 11:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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