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Source: Ricky Williams out for season

So much for the return of Ricky Williams.  After just 6 carries on Monday night, Ricky Williams' season is reportedly done, according to the Palm Beach Post.  Citing a source, the paper reports that Ricky has suffered a torn chest muscle and will need around 4 months to fully recover.

The injury occured on the play in which Ricky fumbled early in the 2nd quarter. Replays showed Lawrence Timmons, the Steeler who recovered the ball, step on Williams' shoulder while he was on the ground laying face down in the slop that was Heinz Field.

Here's what his agent, Leigh Steinberg, had to say:

"It's just sad. As hard as he's worked. He worked so hard physically to get back into shape and in therapy. He worked so hard for that moment and to have it end this way is sad."

"Life is a series of crossroads. On the positive side, he has been readmitted to the NFL. The Dolphins were clear that they want him to rehab there, that he's part of the team again. So he's taken that next step. He's back in the NFL and that's a positive. Unfortunately, injuries are part of the game and his return was in the most extreme conditions."

What an unfortunate end to Ricky's comeback story for 2007. It also creates a mess for Miami's backfield. Jesse Chatman was also injured, but I haven't yet heard any report on how he is. You have to figure that there's now no way a team would ever trade anything for Ricky. So that goes out the window.

It's been that kind of season for the Dolphins. And so it continues...

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i believe somebody said in an ealier thread:
~hope samkon gado hasn't packed his bag yet.~

that just sucks. on many levels. it was going to be fun watching him again... and it spoils any thoughts of showing him off for trade value. hey i am all for the dolphins keeping him next year: a ronnie-ricky tandem in the backfield would be formitible. and at minimum salary, they aren't gonna find anybody cheaper as a number 2 RB.

The Jayfiss Report ...one fan's rants.

by NumberSeven on Nov 27, 2007 2:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
It's maybe time to start thinking of keeping Ricky here and using him to spell Ronnie over the next few years. Maybe a playoff team loses their star running back and we can work out a trade for him then. I guess when you trade 2 1st round + picks for a guy, you should get everything out of him that you can.
Matt

by Matt27 on Nov 27, 2007 3:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I stopped saying...
"it cant get any worse" a long time ago as the dolphins continue to prove me wrong.

In fairness, depending on Chatman's injury status, they are no worse off at RB than 2 weeks ago.

Maybe this is what it takes to get Lorenzo Booker some playing time. You know, our erstwhile 3rd round pick?

by Natalya on Nov 27, 2007 3:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Also...
I wonder where Chatman and Booker now fall in the depth chart if we keep Ricky here.
Matt

by Matt27 on Nov 27, 2007 3:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I actually
feel bad for the players that have busted their asses over the years to not even get in the playoffs.  Now those players are getting old and some getting injured (Zach).  At what point do they ask themselves if it's worth it?  Once that question enters your mind, it's all over.

by MarkDuper85 on Nov 27, 2007 3:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

BOOKER!!!
It is time for BOOKER!!
CCam only put beck in because there was no more excuses, now there is no excuse for not putting Booker in.
About RW, i really don't care, we were in a bad position and now, we still in that same position, so i can give the big F to RW, now he can go do his thing until next year and get pay. Everybody in Miami get pay for doing nothing!!
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(20 years and counting)

by Aleta on Nov 27, 2007 4:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Booker
The problem with Booker is that he can't run between the tackles at all. So he's not a guy that can ever get a lot of carries. I'd love to see him get some action, but he's not a solution to the RB issue that this team might be facing if Chatman can't go on Sunday.

by Matty I on Nov 27, 2007 4:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This isn't a matter of a long-term answer...
rather just a matter of having fresh, healthy players at the position on sunday.

So for one or two games, I've got no problem running Booker inside or whatever. These are football players after all, not fine China or porcelain. I mean Reggie Bush has had 170+ carries this year and he's hardly a big guy.

Bottom line is the dolphins need guys at RB against the jets. So if booker doesn't get the call over a guy from the practice squad (gado), then why draft him at all?

by Natalya on Nov 27, 2007 4:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying...
...he'll get hurt or anything. What I am saying is he is not effective running inside. He can't really do it at this level. I think that's why Cam has held him back. If he plays, you'll see him pick up a 2 to 3 yards per carry when he runs inside.

I'll admit that I think Cam realizes he messed up by drafting Booker. He'd never say it but that's the feeling I get. But going 3 for 4 on day 1 would be fine with me for Cam and Randy's first draft together. Much better than previous years, that's for sure.

by Matty I on Nov 27, 2007 5:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fast Willie Parker
Give Booker whatever juice Willie had in the off season.  Does Willie look way bigger than last year or what?  If Booker can gain 30 lbs he can run between the tackles.

by gophish on Nov 27, 2007 11:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh
Just looked up bio's on Willie (209 lbs)and Lorenzo(191 lbs) and they are both 5'10".  Booker could pack on 20 lbs in the off season- hope he still runs a 4.4 40 though. Then running in the NFL will be much better.  He has the talent.  He was the #1 rated RB out of high school- he just needs the NFL bulk.

by gophish on Nov 27, 2007 11:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Booker college clips
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvPumoZFpl4

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlsnDcoNKtI

by gophish on Nov 27, 2007 11:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Then
Why did we draft him?

by Neo on Nov 27, 2007 11:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry..
i meant, MOST in the Dolphins org, get pay for doing nothing.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(20 years and counting)

by Aleta on Nov 27, 2007 4:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lorenzo
Yea.. i wanna see lorenzo plz cam.

by YatilGinnJr on Nov 27, 2007 6:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Matt...
if, and that is a BIG IF, CCam did make a mistak by drafting him(Booker), then WHY IN HELL he made a contrac for him and singed him? Matt, i'm in the looking for reasonable explanation(excuses for Neo, Nat and the fire CCam club) but that one is just a bad excuses, cause them CCam looks like an idiot and Muller to. BTW, Muller is the one who is involve in the drafting of the players.

Anyway, he is getting pay, atleast let him get hurt, go on ir and finish this BS of him not playing cause hi is to weak. We have Cobbs, and he can run in the middle, in the I & T formation, put then both in the back field and shift plays between them, but at least he can cath underneth and run on the outside.

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(20 years and counting)

by Aleta on Nov 27, 2007 6:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Anyone see the stupid Salguero article about Ricky
He says it is clear, after watching him play last night, that Ricky is washed up.
Oh, and that he was injured because he was out of shape.

What a major knob!

by LeftCoastFinFan on Nov 27, 2007 7:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why...
you guys still read that IDIOT? and worst, get upset from what he writes in his colunm. I read his stuff ones per month(i think) laught  little a continue my reading someplace else, looking for serious comments and analices.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(20 years and counting)

by Aleta on Nov 27, 2007 7:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

McFadden
Maybe we can get an exemption and have McFadden suit up for the Dolphins early.

Otherwise it is up the middle with Cobbs mixed with a couple sweeps to Booker, and Beck will be faced with another afternoon of blitzes.

by Mindtornado on Nov 27, 2007 8:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...
having DF taking handoffs would be sweet.

To be fair though, the OL play last night was very poor. With the exception of a handful of plays, there was virtually no push.

And as for this week?

The jets are the #31 rushing defense in the league and we are playing them here in Miami. No excuses for the fins not to get 100+ yards of rushing using a RB-by-committee approach.

by Natalya on Nov 27, 2007 9:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm
Bringing up McFadden right now probably is a good way to start some arguments.  I'm sure there are some out there who want us to spend the #1 pick on Darren while others don't see McFadden as an option because of Ronnie.  That'll surely be a hot topic once the season is over.  Can't wait for those discussions!

by Matty I on Nov 27, 2007 9:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My .$.02
yes it is early but wow, with all the needs this team has, I can't imagine taking a RB # 1 overall.

Even with Ronnie Brown out with the ACL, the fins have put together a 4.4 ypc avg which is 5th in the NFL. We'd have even more yards rushing if the team hadn't been getting blown out earlier in the season.

RB is the easiest of the skill positions IMO to fill in the NFL. Just look at what GB has done with Ryan Grant, a guy off the practice squad.

Just my opinion but I think we desperately need more help at OL, DL, CB/S, WR, TE, than we do at RB.

by Natalya on Nov 27, 2007 9:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was stupid when Nick took Brown
with the number 2 pick, for the same reason.  If you fix the other, more critical issues, like the line(s), and DBs, you can get a servicable back, or backs, later in the draft or in free agency.  I like Ronnie, but I just felt that using that pick somewhere else would have provided more benefit to the team in the long run.

by LeftCoastFinFan on Nov 28, 2007 2:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto
We need either a game-breaking WR or a monster on DL.  I'm thinking Dorsey from LSU would be a great pick.  No way we should take Darren, unless it's part of a big trade or something.

by tenaciouslee on Nov 28, 2007 8:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They're already starting now arent they?
Someone did bring him up.

I dont see why we should get him, we still need help on both sides of the Line, Defensive help, a TE and some WRs.

by Patssuck456 on Nov 27, 2007 10:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think we are becoming football's answer...
...to the Chicago Cubs.

If we draft Darren McFadden, he will probably wind up joining the Peace Corps.  However, if the Patriots draft him, he will break all rushing records and provide college scholarships to crack babies in his spare time.

I agree with Natalya:  There are too many holes to fill throughout the entire team.  Right now we are just a roster full of special teamers mixed in with a handful of promising rookies and some aging veterans past their prime.

Trade down for picks.

Go Dolphins.

by lancelotlink on Nov 27, 2007 10:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Has to be someone willing though...
Lets keep in mind that Randy said last year he was trying to trade out of the #9 slot, but couldn't get anyone willing to swap with them.

Easy to say lets trade out of the #1 spot, but someone has to see/want someone bad enough to jump that high to get them. (Think of how much $$ you need to spend to sign that player)

Is McFadden or Dorsey or anyone else in the draft THAT GOOD that you would swap #1's and probably have to throw in another pick, to move up for and spend that kind of $$$???

Definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

by azphinner on Nov 27, 2007 10:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I would trade down if possible
I wouldn't trade up unless I had my eye on a franchise QB.  And I am not thinking we need to pull the trigger on that this year, with Beck developing and so many other holes to fill.

If you can't trade down, then I would probably take a DL.

'Course, even with Bell and Ronnie coming back next year (fingers crossed), we still need a real #1 CB, an upgrade at guard and TE, and (assuming Ginn pans out) another starting WR as well.

by LeftCoastFinFan on Nov 28, 2007 3:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

McFadden Debate
Yah, I brought him up.  Only as wishful thinking though.  

I have no idea who the Dolphins are going to take and I am not sure anymore who I think they should pick.

I do trust Cam and Randy to come up with a draft plan that works.  The Dolphins should have another two or three rookies starting next year.

by Mindtornado on Nov 27, 2007 11:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it's wishful thinking.
If you can't trade down from that 1st pick overall, then you take the best player available.  While I agree with previous posts that a good RB can be found later in the draft, maybe even in an unsigned FA, but if you hold that number one spot then you take the only sure-fire can't-miss immediate-impact potential HOFer that you believe is available.  In my opinion, in next year's draft, that player is McFadden.

Still, I think it's much easier to trade down from the #1 spot than #9.  Everybody wants an Adrian Peterson (Vikings version, not Bears)and McFadden fits the bill.  There are some deep pockets out there who will be willing to make the big move up if they think he's the final piece to the puzzle, or at least gets butts in the seats.  I'm thinking Cowboys, Giants, Falcons, Raiders...plenty of ego to go around.

Still, if he ended up in aqua and orange...I confess I'd be pretty happy.  Nothing against Ronnie...

Go Dolphins.

by lancelotlink on Nov 28, 2007 12:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Favorite convo
I'm glad we're talking draft already.  For some reason I almost like the offseason more than the games.  Maybe it's because I'm a Dolphin fan!  There are a number of top ranked players right now and I'm sure that will change.  I'd love Dorsey or even Howie's son, McFadden would be exciting, but I still like Ronnie.  It's nearly impossible to trade down today, but you gotta try.

by Gliddog on Nov 28, 2007 8:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Draft
The best thing to do would be to trade down. If we can't I say the Tackle from Michigan - Long. If defense, Chris Long from Virginia. He would add some depth and help to the D line. I'm not against Dorsey, I just want to make sure he fits our system. In any case we need help at D line, CB, OLB, TE, WR, and some more depth at O line would help as well. As far as QB... We need to bring in a good veteran and maybe a project in case Beck isn't the answer. I believe he is though.
Matt

by Matt27 on Nov 28, 2007 1:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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