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What to draft for?

Yeah, I'm already thinking of the draft. And I'm actually glad and Cam & Randy are trying to aquire picks for the next draft. What I what to know from the Dolfans out there is, where would you like the picks to go as far as positions? For me, I think we could use one or two O-line picks, but I think the bulk of the picks should go in defense, except for LB. Focus especially on secondary, and grab a couple of D-line players. But that's me, and I'm not an expert, so I could be totally way wrong. So what are your thoughts? What positions would you like to be addressed in the draft?

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at 0-6 and let's be honest, 0-7 after this weekend, there's nothing wrong with talking draft.

About the picks, I'd say the O-line has been one of the few areas on the team that's played well (along with Ronnie Brown obviously). So a pick there for a top tackle would be ok, but I suspect the dolphins are feeling alright about Vernon Carey at LT. If they did want an OT, then Jake Long out of Michigan is probably the guy.

So with that in mind, you look at the defense and there are few spots that don't need upgrading. An interior lineman would be my pick, perhaps Glenn Dorsey out of LSU. We are going to keep getting run over by teams until we get someone to anchor that middle.

I don't think any of the players eligible for the draft, in the secondary (DB, S) are anywhere near good enough to be top five picks. The dolphins could trade down to get kenny phillips out of miami though, later in the first round.
All the secondary

by Natalya on Oct 19, 2007 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Phillips
He's the guy I want at this point and if the Dolphins trade out of the top 7 or 8, he will not be there. In my opinion, he's defintely worth a top 5 pick. He's that good. He's going to be better than Ed Reed, in my opinion.

by Matty I on Oct 19, 2007 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lots of picks...
If we are in the top five and we can get a stud DT, take him. Otherwise, trade down for a later 1st and a 2nd rounder.  We need a lot of help all over the board.

Trade most of our high salary vets for draft picks (trade Taylor for a 2nd and 3rd pick). Both Zach and Taylor have been class acts, but now we need a new identity to this defense. In two or three years we'll be in the play-offs with a solid, young, and fast team.

I love how the Redskins have two stud safeties.  I would love to have a combo like that. They can really set the tone of a game.

by gophish on Oct 20, 2007 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

DB DB DB DB DB
Phillips if you can get him.  Dorsey would be my second choice.

I think we need to go defense all around.  DB, DL, and possibly LB depending on how Crowder develops and what happens with ZT and JT.  DB has got to be our top priority though.  

The Phins can find a couple of role players on offense through free agency, and they'll be fine.  We're already putting up enough points to win most games, if our defense could get off the field and stop teams on 3rd down, and that all falls on the defensive backfield.

by tenaciouslee on Oct 19, 2007 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

About Phillips...
and really all the top players - we all know that a) the college season is still underway, b) the combines/workouts are months away, and c) the breakdown of the players by scouts....those 3 things will change rankings considerably from here to then.

Looking at Miami's record and prospects, you have to think a top 5, possibly top 3, pick is a certainty. We'll see who they take but it is hard to argue against defense, defense, defense :)

by Natalya on Oct 19, 2007 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Depends
on what Beck does. At the end of 8 games or so how is he taking to the NFL game? Is he looking like a guy who is catching on or does he look like a 'fish out of water" sorta speak? If he looks like he is doing well I say we go DB,DL,OL in that order. If not and we have a top 3 pick, we have to stop messing around with the most important position on the field and draft a Franchise QB if he is there.

by Neo on Oct 19, 2007 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Baker
I would like to see the Dolphins trade down and draft LT Sam Baker.  Yeah the O-Line is doing ok, but just ok.  We need that O-Line to be great, all great offenses are behind a great line.  I think with Baker we can get a franchise LT and move Carey back to RT.  Then maybe look into another guard later on in the draft.

by PhinFanDan on Oct 19, 2007 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

All subjective right now, but....
I think that if there is a big, huge, can't miss prospect on the O-line, you draft him - otherwise for the first round, I think given the current season, defense is the key. Either a DE to complement Taylor if he remains in Miami, or to succeed him and help the D-Line would be my first choice. Then a whole lot of secondary and D-Line depth after that. TE would be a good addition as well.

by mikem1224 on Oct 20, 2007 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Franchise guy
I'm with Neo.  I just don't buy John Beck as a future franchise QB.  Maybe he'll show me something before the end of the season, but as of now, if I were Mueller, I'd have to be open to taking a QB with the top pick.

I also agree with everybody saying we need to trade our vets for draft picks.  I've loved Zach and Jason for years, too, but nobody's sacred now.  Besides, I'd like to see them get a chance to play for a really good team before they retire. The Dolphins aren't going to be that good that soon.

All in all, I think I wouldn't focus on a position.  I'd take the best person to build a team around.  A leader, hard worker, high-character guy.  We ought to be able to get all that plus talent with a pick as high as we're likely to have.

After that, I'd go for D-line picks -- tackles, then ends.  A stud O-lineman or 2.  Then DBs.

If Beck turns out not to be the real deal, as I suspect, we can draft a QB in a year or two.  We should still be bad enough then to get a high pick.

by urbino on Oct 23, 2007 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Go long
My picks reflect the fact that I don't think the Dolphins are looking at a 1-draft fix.  It's going to take at least 2, probably 3, and maybe 4 good drafts to get the talent level back where it needs to be.

by urbino on Oct 23, 2007 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree with you that...
the fins are definitely not one draft away from being a contender. They are more like 2-3 drafts away, assuming they pick the right players and develop them sensibly.

Look at the defense, you are looking at a virtual overhaul of almost the entire unit. On the offense things are better, but there are some huge question marks...namely at QB, the most important position. Nobody can say for sure, yay or nay, that Beck will be the guy. If he is, then you still need an impact tight end, a top-notch OL, maybe a RB depending on Brown's recovery, and possibly more help at receiver depending on how Ginn & Hagan develop.

In summary: Huge rebuilding process.

by Natalya on Oct 24, 2007 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rebuild everything
Yup.  We need everything.  That's why I wouldn't focus on a position this year (or even next year).  Draft the best football players available.  Whatever position they play, we need.  

(The only exception is I think Ronnie Brown is the real deal at running back, so I'd pass on RBs.)

Imagine a future team that has a couple of young O-linemen like Sims and Webb, and a couple of young D-tackles like Bowen and Gardener (or better, preferably).  We haven't had top talent on both sides of the line at the same time since . . . what, the early '80s?

by urbino on Oct 25, 2007 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

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